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Cobalt-60
Oct 11, 2016

by Azathoth
Bolos! Always good to see them mentioned. Had some of the Laumer collections, but lost them. Still have volumes 1 and 2 of the Baen short stories (the only good ones). Any plans to review Volume 2?

Slogged through the Honorverse books until somewhere between the nonsensical prison planet and the utterly cringy romance, then gave up. The short stories are good, though. I think that's true of a lot of MilSF, if only because the ideas for a book rarely have enough substance to fill 300 pages.

I had a dream once about a version of HMS Pinafore, set in the RMN. Can't remember the lyrics, though.

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Cobalt-60
Oct 11, 2016

by Azathoth
Thanks to whoever recommended that Mission of Honor: Retold story.That is space opera as it should be.

And space operetta:

I am the captain of this ship;
Off to war we boldly zip
And wage our battles 'cross the vast expanse

-and fire off our missiles and more missiles (but no lance)
-and fire off our missiles and more missiles (but no lance)
-and fire off our missiles and more missiles
with which our ship quite bristles (but no lance)



For she herself has said it,
And it's greatly to her credit,
That she is Manticoran!
That she is Manticoran!
For she might have been from Grayson,
From Beowulf, Flax, or Mesan,
Or perhaps Solarian!
Or perhaps Solarian!
But in spite of all temptations
To belong to other nations,
She remains Manticoran!

(doesn't quite scan, but that's dreams for you)

Cobalt-60
Oct 11, 2016

by Azathoth
The YA novels are about Honor's ancestor and the treecats; intelligent psionic 6-limbed cats. I found the first two simplistic, but then, it's YA. And no missiles (yet).

There's another trilogy, the "Manticore Ascendant" trilogy, set back before the discovery of the wormhole, when Manticore is just a neobarb kingdom. It makes a nice change of pace; Manticore is still finding their identity and haven't had a reason to grow out their arrogance, Haven are still decent people, and firing six missiles is a major battle action, not a prelude to the next 994. It suffers from multiple-author syndrome, with plots sort of running around colliding with each other, and the second and third books hastily welded on to the first.

Cobalt-60
Oct 11, 2016

by Azathoth
Should rename the series "You fuckers will buy anything with David Weber's name on it, won't you?"

Cobalt-60
Oct 11, 2016

by Azathoth
Someone need to have explained to him that obfuscations make for poor writing and that the failure mode of "clever" is "rear end in a top hat." And that the author's job is to COMMUNICATE to the reader, the relationship is NOT adversarial.

Or he needs to get dunked in a toilet.

Cobalt-60
Oct 11, 2016

by Azathoth

quantumfoam posted:

Random thought that popped up in my head today:
Did David Weber steal "The Salamander" sobriquet/nickname for Honor Harrington from Orson Scott Card's Enders Game?

Borrowed from the same place:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salamanders_in_folklore

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Cobalt-60
Oct 11, 2016

by Azathoth
There was a short story in one of the Honorverse compilations that seemed to have been written off the prompt: "How can we tell a story about cluster-bombing a civilian population and have it done by the good guys?" Not a bad story (one of the series that helped turn the PRH from Evil French Commies into something approaching realistic, but realizing exactly what had been done was disquieting in retrospect.

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