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Wacky Delly posted:This is the real trick. You can get around a lot of mechanics simply by having an extra 40k hp. exactly! and since many mechanics don't even target the tank at all you can just sit there and laugh at the puny dps as they have to like, move and stuff. tanking is the best.
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mistaya posted:One thing that will hold true throughout the game: if you're unsure of the mechanics but literally everyone else is standing in a certain spot and you're all by yourself... Conversely, *me, moves to where the group is* *everyone else* "What the gently caress, you were in charge of that side!" or "What the gently caress, why'd you aim that unmarked attack at us?"
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Jul 14, 2020 22:12
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i love when tg cid targets someone with the "follow you and kill you" aoe who doesnt move and then the entire rest of the party scatters like rats
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Jul 14, 2020 22:14
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/a Holy Sword: Sword in ground, get in. Sword sideways, get away. Sword over platform, avoid. /wait 3 /a Shadowblade marker, drop in back of platform (don't overlap). Crush Weapon marker, keep running away from group (4 hits). /wait 3 /a Tether attack should be passed between NON-TANKS after each hit.
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Jul 14, 2020 22:17
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unwTkH4etNQ
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Jul 14, 2020 22:20
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i have literally typed "in" "out" "drop in back" etc during the fight and it never matters.
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Jul 14, 2020 22:20
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Air is stored in the boobs.
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Jul 14, 2020 22:37
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Lol
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Jul 14, 2020 22:38
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Fister Roboto posted:Haha I've seen this a few times too. There are way too many people who think that the most commonly used strat for something is literally the only way to do it. I'mma be fair here. I've literally never seen a group kill the hole in time before the group wipes if they don't use a limit break on it. It's kind of a catch-22. If your group is competent enough to kill the rift in time, they'll use the limit break on it. If they're not, they'll have wasted the limit break beforehand 
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Jul 14, 2020 22:40
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Chrysalis is honestly way overtuned, even if the tanks know to get in the towers (which is already kind of a stretch because I don't think tank-specific towers have been a thing before that fight) so much damage goes out even if they do it right.
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Jul 14, 2020 22:47
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Synced down, the rift dies right away. As long as the tanks eat the first few meteors, lb3 isn't close to necessary.
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Jul 14, 2020 22:47
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Most of the problem is that on an incompetent group that blew limit break early (or hell, even on most groups that didn't), most DPS i see in Chrysalis nowadays think they're big boys and can tank a meteor. In like 90% of the cases it's not even "imma soak this meteor instead of the tank", it's "imma soak this meteor WITH the tank" that kills them. And then no one's left to actually kill the rift
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Jul 14, 2020 22:52
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All I care about in Chrysalis is popping as many buffs as I can as I enter the black hole and laughing maniacally as they all get extended to be basically infinite. Does that work even on stuff like Hallowed Ground?
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Jul 14, 2020 22:53
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Awesome! posted:i have literally typed "in" "out" "drop in back" etc during the fight and it never matters. Well you know what they say: Seven shadows cast, seven fates foretold. Yet at the end of the broken path lies death and death alone
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Jul 14, 2020 22:58
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Been a long time since I've played Tactics but I don't remember Ramza being a huge loving rear end in a top hat at all, what's the deal?
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Jul 14, 2020 22:59
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Martman posted:All I care about in Chrysalis is popping as many buffs as I can as I enter the black hole and laughing maniacally as they all get extended to be basically infinite. Does that work even on stuff like Hallowed Ground? It absolutely does! It's great.
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Jul 14, 2020 23:03
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Ramza bas Lexentale is a prick Ramza Beoulve is the one in Tactics
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Jul 14, 2020 23:03
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I don't really play blm except if I just feel like shaking things up from smn time. How often do people actually use manaward to disrespect mechanics and keep casting? Is that an actual thing? I know I've heard people say that's what you do but I feel like you probably can't actually get away with that can you?
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Jul 14, 2020 23:12
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2phha5hq1k This is an old guide on tanking the Chrysalis, it's just notable for me that it's a 2015-era video that doesn't rely on LB3 to break the rift (the Dragoon TRIES to use it too late), and now we have a lot of power creep that would blow that time out of the water.
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Jul 14, 2020 23:13
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Ramza bas Lexentale is a prick Ah that's right
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Jul 14, 2020 23:19
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I actually had a group that had some... incredibly low dps (we got two cycles of darkness maze on Ultima, that's how bad.) We managed to get through TG Cid by virtue of me putting a marker on my head and saying: Arnold voice: "Come with me if you want to live." And somewhat shockingly, they followed me, and we lived! I felt really happy about that. Even if our icewolf exploded cuz three of them ran to the wrong gap and were too scared to cross the orange. It is kind of hilarious to me how ingrained ORANGE BAD becomes, to the point where as you learn to do difficult content disrespecting the orange marker (when there is one) is often necessary to maintain uptime and you have to re-train yourself to be okay with it.
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Jul 14, 2020 23:22
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i didnt know it was possible to get a 2nd maze
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Jul 14, 2020 23:25
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NEITHER DID I. We ended up dying in the second phase and having to use the checkpoint after explaining "plz catch the demons they asplode." It was a truly strange run, I think half the alliance was newbies.
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Jul 14, 2020 23:26
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Glagha posted:I don't really play blm except if I just feel like shaking things up from smn time. How often do people actually use manaward to disrespect mechanics and keep casting? Is that an actual thing? I know I've heard people say that's what you do but I feel like you probably can't actually get away with that can you? It's excellent if you're doing MSQ/Praetorium. I just tank through the bit lasers in Ultima 2 if nobody is killing them.
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Jul 14, 2020 23:30
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Well you know what they say: Seven shadows cast, seven fates foretold. Yet at the end of the broken path lies death and death alone God drat I've never wanted to like a post more than this one. mistaya posted:I actually had a group that had some... incredibly low dps (we got two cycles of darkness maze on Ultima, that's how bad.) This is honestly impressive. Possibly a world first.
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Jul 14, 2020 23:32
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Ramza bas Lexentale is a prick The Beoulve youth guides your fate, but have you the faith to fulfill his legacy?
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Fister Roboto posted:You might be surprised at how often I see people fail this concept. And how often they decide to immediately run back to their original spot and get killed after the healer rescues them over.
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Jul 14, 2020 23:36
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Trying to catch Son of Levin and I'm constantly surprised how good the music is at Camp Tranquil's Rootslake. Just really, really good.
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thetoughestbean posted:I didn’t really care for Fray the idea that you’re full of rage and resentment didn’t really fit with my WoL very much, and I know my WoL would never consider just leaving everybody That's not what that is. Fray/Esteem is the self-centered part of your mind. This isn't a bad or selfish thing, everyone has that part of them that processes their basic wants and needs. It's just that that is all Fray is, the personification of the part of you focused on your needs. And you are an adventurer, and that means you are going to die bloody. Probably pointlessly too, success tends to come with a higher chance of survival a lot of the time. The thing that takes you out is almost certainly to be a heroic but doomed last stand, or just getting a bit slower and dying to other people's stupid bullshit. Now you, as a fully developed person? You might be fine with that. A personification of the most self-involved part of your personality? Is not going to find it easy to be ok with that. As we hit the 60-70 chain of quests we progress to the opposite side of your personality, the one who is only concerned with everyone else, with all you've lost and how far you'd go to save everyone. And it's just as dysfunctional, because again: It's not a person. It's one small aspect of a person. And the resolution: It's Fray versus the part of you they railed against so hard in the 30-50 chain. At this point though, we have growth. Fray forgives that part of you, and admits they love them. Because that *is* who you are, and Fray can't not care about you. It is fundamentally the part of you that cares about you. And yes, that means you are going to die a sad, lonely death. Fray has learned to accept that, accept death and loss, and learn to move on. Which, surprise, the entire Dark Knight quest chain is about death. Learning to accept you are going to die, learning to find meaning in life, and learning to move past loss. And if you want to say that that isn't your character, that you wouldn't feel that way, well, ShB spoilers you did die. Everyone you care about died, then you died, and the bad guys won. That was your life, and it was exactly as bad as Fray thought it would be. And it's always going to be that way, because that's the only way it ends. You keep being a hero, eventually those dice come up snake eyes and you are done. A part of your personality freaking out in the face of that doesn't mean you are a bad person, it means you have basic pattern recognition skills. It also means that poo poo gets weird when distinct parts of your psyche start developing individual personhood.
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Mulva posted:Words I can admit that my character would have those parts of himself and still think that those parts of my character would not express themselves in that way
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Jul 15, 2020 01:39
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Coming into Shadowbringers are there any classes I should level to 70 because their class quests are relevant? Heard a lot about Dark Knight being very relevant. (Which should be obvious just from the trailer).
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Jul 15, 2020 01:53
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Nowhere near to the same degree as, say, Dragoon in Heavensward.
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Jul 15, 2020 01:56
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Dark Knight isn't really relevant for Shadowbringers. Thematically it's just used as the warrior of light insert because it's vaguely dark vs light, but the job doesn't have anything to do with that.
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Jul 15, 2020 01:58
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Dark Knight is thematically resonant with Shadowbringers' MSQ, but it's not mandatory to play to understand or appreciate the MSQ at all. I'm not sure if being a DRK ever gets brought up during the MSQ.
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Jul 15, 2020 02:03
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BLM is also thematically relevant, if you think about it.
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Jul 15, 2020 02:10
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For me, the weird out of the way optional content that has some interesting connection to ShB is Lost City of Amdapor (Hard)
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:For me, the weird out of the way optional content that has some interesting connection to ShB is Lost City of Amdapor (Hard) I had completely forgotten about that by the time I got to Shadowbringers and then months later finally got it again in the roulette and freaked out
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:For me, the weird out of the way optional content that has some interesting connection to ShB is Lost City of Amdapor (Hard) Does that mean that White Mage might also be good to play through to 70?
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Clarste posted:BLM is also thematically relevant, if you think about it. If anything, BLM is more relevant than DRK.
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