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pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


The video game Cyberpunk 2077 is going to come out some time next year and while I am kind of looking forward to it because it will have Keanu Reeves and Lady Gaga in it, and it might even be fun to play, I am more excited about riding a motorcycle around the city while listening to music appropriate to the atmosphere and setting if they are well executed.
Maybe I am not well traveled enough or too much of a nitpicker, but I have not had an easy time finding music that really feels "cyberpunk" despite how much other media out there deals with these kind of themes. What I have noticed is that there is plenty of music that could be described as either cyber or punk, but I haven't seen a lot that is a real synthesis of the two and that's what I'm hoping you can share here.
I'd love to see suggestions for music in this style, whatever it may mean, or discuss what it means! I will also keep a list of the best suggestions in the OP if anyone else wants me to.

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pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


I know I don't need to type all this but I'm enjoying it so feel free to skip to the last part if you aren't interested in the rambling/background etc

I understand that "Cyberpunk" is a vague criteria because there is so much room for interpretation but also the way I've usually seen it represented deals very loosely or superficially with the "punk" part in particular, most often reducing it to broad strokes of fashion or narrative. It's not my place to say what punk is as an ethos or aesthetic but in pop culture I feel the term is abused or rendered meaningless especially in the case of stuff like "steampunk". In cases like that I just don't see how it applies based on my experiences with punk media, culture, and people, or as an individual in a society that is only interested in conformity. Yes reading that is funny to me too but it's genuine; it seems like people slapped the label on because it sounded cool and that was the extent of its meaning to them. I have no expectation that the big budget video game with punk in the title will be any different but it will be fun to put together a playlist that has some actually "cyberpunk" sounding music on it.

What I'm looking for is music that is futuristic sounding but more transgressive, or has more to say than the stuff that is in vogue right now. I am also interested in electronic or otherwise futuristic sounding music from the past that is on the outside of, or at odds with, popular culture

hifi
Jul 25, 2012



the original cyberpunk band is Orgy

screaden
Apr 8, 2009


I don't know what the gently caress you're talking about but I guarantee you video game nerds all over the world have already made cyberpunk playlists made up entirely of retro wave stuff

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3598433&pagenumber=41&perpage=40

caligulamprey
Jan 23, 2007

It never stops.



Just listen to Dan Deacon, I guess?

I mean, that's what I was doing before Cyberpunk 2077 and that's what I'll be doing after Cyberpunk 2077, too.

atrus50
Dec 24, 2008


hi im also a dweeb about a dead genre and im here to say
yr probably looking for something like jai paul

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004



Back when The Matrix Online was still a thing, I used to turn the in-game music off and find some web radio stations that played a shitload of industrial music, so my suggestions would be to find a bunch of industrial bands, like Spahn Ranch, Front 242, KMFDM, Laibach, Chemlab, etc., and then go from there.

For "cybermetal" bands, start with Fear Factory, Orgy, Prong (specifically Cleansing), Front Line Assembly (they often straddle the line between industrial metal and more synth-type stuff), and most anything by Strapping Young Lad/Devin Townsend.

I also heartily endorse most anything retrowave/synthwave, I used to have a custom radio station that played that kinda stuff in GTA Online for the PC.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWdw6f_zij8

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008





Pertubator is the correct answer to this question.

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002



You really just need Techno Syndrome (Mortal Kombat) by The Immortals on Infinite repeat

pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS



Yeah more like this but cyber... like if Doom had synths or something

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008





puve posted:

Yeah more like this but cyber... like if Doom had synths or something

Pertubator. Did I fuckin stutter? And Carpenter Brut.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkW3gJ8BFzw

pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Vince MechMahon posted:

Pertubator. Did I fuckin stutter? And Carpenter Brut.

He has like 1000 songs and the 40 or so I've heard have been John Carpenter tinged house music, link me punk stuff he's done instead of cussing at me thanks

pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS



Yes! These guys are probably the most "cyberpunk" style music I have heard, especially their early stuff like Geography since they leaned more into the EBM style as they progressed. I'd love to hear more music similar to that, or F/I, or some of DAT Politics early stuff that isn't just timestretched cat noises or whatever

pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Apologies to that guy before, I think he thought I was talking about the awesome video game Doom, but I should have clarified I meant music that sounds like the awesome band Doom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH9qmaHxHS0

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012



*hundreds of 40 year old computer programmers barrel into the thread to recommend increasingly lame synthwave bands named after videogame consoles*

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012



you might like some of Chu Ishikawa's soundtrack work OP, even though it's not literally punk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGOXiHCCO0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0FlfC439fE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKeDb_jfPTE

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004



This thread got me listening to industrial music again, so here's the first Spahn Ranch song I ever heard, it was on a Cleopatra Records comp I bought years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRZK_bwZNfI

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003



pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS



This is great, it reminds me of Test Dept and that movie is probably the most "industrial" thing I have ever seen. Aside from a few producers like Ken Ishii and DJ Krush or punk bands like GISM and gently caress On The Beach I don't know a lot of Japanese music so a lot of my exposure to it is via soundtracks, like stuff in video games by Akira Yamaoka and Zuntata, and movies like the excellent Sonatine

Sydney Bottocks posted:

This thread got me listening to industrial music again, so here's the first Spahn Ranch song I ever heard, it was on a Cleopatra Records comp I bought years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRZK_bwZNfI

I have heard of these guys and never really checked them out but I'm going to go back and do so, and refresh my memory on Al Jourgensen stuff like Ministry and all the side projects he was involved in


This was a cool compilation, a friend of mine had it and it introduced me to a lot of interesting bands like Coil and the unforgettable Laibach

pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


A human heart posted:

*hundreds of 40 year old computer programmers barrel into the thread to recommend increasingly lame synthwave bands named after videogame consoles*

I'm not averse to the stuff although I generally prefer the music of the era it's kind of cargo cultish about. But there's already a megathread for that kind of thing so I would like it if anybody posting retro or synthwave music here can try to give some examples with more of a punk style or energy

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003



i think frankly your approach to the idea and setting of "cyberpunk" is perhaps too narrow and literal. there are all kinds of genres of music that would be appropriate in a cyberpunk setting, not just music that combines "cyber" electronic music and "punk" style

less laughter
May 7, 2012

Accelerock & Roll


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kfBdCtccUU

pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Earwicker posted:

i think frankly your approach to the idea and setting of "cyberpunk" is perhaps too narrow and literal. there are all kinds of genres of music that would be appropriate in a cyberpunk setting, not just music that combines "cyber" electronic music and "punk" style

I'm not stopping anybody from posting stuff like that, but there are other threads I could read if I just wanted Vangelis over an 808 or whatever

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003



puve posted:

I'm not stopping anybody from posting stuff like that, but there are other threads I could read if I just wanted Vangelis over an 808 or whatever

that is not what im talking about at all. the original term "cyberpunk" just referred stories about young misfits and criminals in a mass media/tech dystopia, not "punk" in the sense that they literally listen to music that people in 2019 would necessarily trace back to their "experiences with punk media, culture, and people".

i posted the front242 as a joke because its certainly what "cyberpunk" music sounded like in 1991 but by 2077 it will have same distance that we currently do with Golden Oldies from the 40's and 50's. music for old farts. music they play in grocery stores and hotel lobbies because it's inoffensive music that everyone kind of vaguely remembers, and doesn't challenge anything or anyone. whatever music is actually challenging the norms of the 2070's it's unlikely to involve anything that people today think of as "punk".

Earwicker fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Jul 1, 2019

pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Holy poo poo it's the guy from the :actually: smiley

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003



puve posted:

Holy poo poo it's the guy from the :actually: smiley

well yes i am a pedantic nerd, and so are you based on this thread you started and the posts you have made in it so im not sure why you need to get personal

pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Sorry, that was rude and even though you have been talking junk on good band Front 242 I'm willing to make a conciliatory gesture. Here is my favorite retrowave song by far, I love this song and it belongs on any decent cyberpunk playlist imo

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003



puve posted:

Sorry, that was rude and even though you have been talking junk on good band Front 242 I'm willing to make a conciliatory gesture.

i love front 242, i was not talking poo poo on them in any way. but the fact that they will be perceived as harmless lame old people music in the future remains true. they will be blasting im rythmus bleiben on goth-industrial night in our nursing homes

pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


We can all post the music of the future when it comes out but for now we will have to settle for stuff that has already, got any suggestions?

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002



puve posted:

We can all post the music of the future when it comes out but for now we will have to settle for stuff that has already, got any suggestions?

Santana - Supernatural

pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


"Smooth" will probably have been elected president by 2077

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost






This song makes me think "cyberpunk"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWjBPIbJMzY

This is a bit more abrasive/guitar oriented
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdhHMXTGCC8

This is if punk rockers picked up synths instead of guitars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSL1nXza7pM

Haujobb is cyberpunk as gently caress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taOnyznoDY8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtkK0-d69a4

Comedy option
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx2fZU5USus

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost






Thought of another one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfHxsjH0bUI

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy


jfc nobody posted Danger yet, just listen to all of Danger's poo poo on spotify over and over. It's like that kavinsky drive song but more cyperpunky

screaden
Apr 8, 2009


Move over Justice.

pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


LabyaMynora posted:

This song makes me think "cyberpunk"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWjBPIbJMzY

This is a bit more abrasive/guitar oriented
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdhHMXTGCC8

This is if punk rockers picked up synths instead of guitars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSL1nXza7pM

Haujobb is cyberpunk as gently caress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taOnyznoDY8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtkK0-d69a4

Comedy option
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx2fZU5USus

Thanks for posting these! I have heard a little bit of Front Line Assembly before and they're pretty good, but I never saw that video and it's one of the best music videos I've ever seen. I love sci fi movies from that era and they clearly put a lot of effort into it.
The Young Gods song I know from the Waxtrax compilation somebody brought up before, the video is definitely something lol, I will have to check out their other stuff because they have good energy; you reminded me there was another song on that compilation that was a collaboration between Al Jourgensen and Ian MacKaye and I need to check out that album too.
I have never heard of DAF but the video is great and I love the song... reminds me of a mix between Suicide and Kraftwerk, definitely going to check out more by them.
Haujobb is like Spahn Ranch to me in that I've heard one or two songs but nothing that really made me want to hear more but I will have to give them both more of a chance because they have been recommended to me more than once... I will be honest neither of those songs really do it for me for some reason
I had no idea Billy Idol made an album called "Cyberpunk" and now I have to listen to it even though that song isn't his best lol
Somehow I never heard of Sigue Sigue Sputnik, I could see them being an influence on DAT Politics who I like a lot, that song is just plain ignorant and I love it. Them and DAF are the kind of stuff I was looking for :cheers:

pieuvre armement fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Jul 10, 2019

Les Os
Mar 28, 2010


in my dystopian future were listening to rave mixes of lemon tree and that one happy mondays album they recorded on ecstasy

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pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


The Walrus posted:

jfc nobody posted Danger yet, just listen to all of Danger's poo poo on spotify over and over. It's like that kavinsky drive song but more cyperpunky

I checked out a few of his songs and it doesn't really do it for me, it feels like Wisp with the idm and folk character drained out... sort of seems like it was made for car commercials but I might have just not listened to the right songs

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