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Dota 1 has a lot of single-dimensional heroes that do one thing really well, like Lina dumping out an endless stream of single-target magic burst damage. Those heroes now exist, and there aren’t a ton of different single-dimensional roles possible, and Valve isn’t going to add a second Lina with blue hair and a pet parrot. So newer heroes are necessarily going to be more complex than the bare minimum.
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 17:57 |
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I asked one of my friends (has three accounts in top 300 NA) what he thought about Willow and he said: solid 4 position even in this patch where the most important thing a hero can do is instantly stun and delete an enemy. Only reason she doesn't see more pub play is because she has a non-zero learning curve. Saying her Q is unreliable is pretty misleading because its always the same pattern and pretty easy to hit the enemy with the middle one. rjmccall posted:So newer heroes are necessarily going to be more complex than the bare minimum. I think this makes sense, but at the same time, there's a lot of older heroes that have been totally left by the wayside and are now basically obsolete. Before the forums went down I typed about Lich, and how none of his abilities have any synergy and none of them combo together to help you land them more effectively. The change to Devour that made him super strong was obviously predicated upon the current patch at the time, and now that denying the ranged creep isnt nearly as big a deal he's so bad he went totally unpicked. I think it would go a long way to try and take another look at heroes with the current design philosophy, instead of looking at the bottom of the barrel heroes and trying to band-aid their relevancy by changing one spell or their talents or something. Lifestealer is another good example of a carry who just looks kind of sad in comparison to the new carries with insane kits like MK
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 18:30 |
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Yeah, there are several heroes that just don’t seem to have a niche at all and need a serious rework. Skywrath Mage stands out as a hero that just seems permanently out of the meta because his kit just kindof sucks.
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 18:42 |
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rjmccall posted:Yeah, there are several heroes that just don’t seem to have a niche at all and need a serious rework. Skywrath Mage stands out as a hero that just seems permanently out of the meta because his kit just kindof sucks. I think it's also massively an issue that now every single hero buys BKB like second item. Skywrath's whole gimmick also used to be that "this is the hero you can pick to guarantee that someone dies" but as power creep has happened, having three abilities that all just do magic damage doesn't cut it anymore because every meta hero does a bazillion damage
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 19:08 |
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https://twitter.com/DOTA2/status/1380596153259991040 Omniknight got a girlfriend e: lmao her ult is INCREDIBLE IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Apr 9, 2021 |
# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:07 |
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technically it's Kotl's grandkid/phoenix's niecequote:Necronomicon what the gently caress
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:10 |
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lol the new hero is like someone from the avengers and its awesome
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:12 |
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IncendiaC posted:technically it's Kotl's grandkid/phoenix's niece they can both be true Honestly I'm sure she's very good but I want to play the new hero because she just looks fun as hell to play
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:15 |
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No more griefing by blocking camps with wards.
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:15 |
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DNK posted:I actually think AM might be pickable if he could take stats over ability points. All he needs is 1/1/1 and then mass stats until he has manta finished (at which point he'll be like level 17 and able to skill poo poo). Added +2 Attributes leveling for up to 7 times (for the 7 empty levels from 1-26), and can be leveled in any order (via clicking on the talent tree circle). They will automatically be leveled if there are no other options available.
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:16 |
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Hoodwink added to Captains Mode
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:17 |
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Reality Protester posted:Added +2 Attributes leveling for up to 7 times (for the 7 empty levels from 1-26), and can be leveled in any order (via clicking on the talent tree circle). They will automatically be leveled if there are no other options available. lol I literally just saw that line and was looking for that quote for the exact same reason Also instead of getting all talents at 30 you pick the last four from 27-30
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:18 |
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Broodmother got a big rework: spiderlings is now her ult, old passive removed, and her shard ability is a regular spell
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:20 |
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Couriers no longer have vision when inside Roshan's pit Wards can now be denied from full health by any allied player if the ward is placed in a spawn camp box
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:21 |
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quote:FIREBALL well, now dragon knight can farm like crazy at minute 20
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:27 |
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IncendiaC posted:Broodmother got a big rework: spiderlings is now her ult, old passive removed, and her shard ability is a regular spell to the dumpster with ye
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:29 |
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Scepter gives enchant totem a 40% cleave now Faceless Void got the biggest buff of the patch: quote:Base armor increased by 1 he also got a pretty sizeable buff overall, time dilation especially
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:31 |
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This seems like a really good patch. This is kinda WTF though: "Tango pooling has been removed from the Strategy Phase UI."
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:32 |
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7.29 posted:Shared tangos now expire after 40 seconds. Tango pooling has been removed from the Strategy Phase UI. Mid pickers on suicide watch
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:33 |
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DOOM Base armor increased from 0 to 3
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:34 |
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Heroes now gain 1 TP scroll on death What? Why?
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:46 |
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I threw Draskyl on in the background and he says the new hero is probably going to be played mid a lot because of the way the ult works to allow you to gank sidelanes.
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:46 |
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Ooh, the Bane scepter is interesting; it makes it significantly harder to cancel Fiend's Grip:quote:Reworked Scepter upgrade. Reduces Fiend's Grip cooldown by 45 seconds and causes Fiend's Grip to create two uncontrollable illusions that channel Fiend's Grip on the target. Illusions take 700% damage.
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:48 |
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I think Dawnbreaker is a carry? Regardless, just tried her in a bot game and she's fun as gently caress.
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:49 |
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This new CM Shard where you can walk and it follows you is actually gonna be obscenely good, me thinks.
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:51 |
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You move at 25% speed. That seems useless, being able to cast is the bigger deal but not its sure worth 1400 gold.
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 20:53 |
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It's no longer channeled so you can't be interrupted. And you can Force Staff yourself into fights
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 21:00 |
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mikeraskol posted:You move at 25% speed. How can you tell?
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 21:03 |
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Sab669 posted:It's no longer channeled so you can't be interrupted. And you can Force Staff yourself into fights Are you reading what I'm reading? Reworked Shard. Now allows you to move, cast, and attack during Freezing Field. Your movement speed is reduced by 75% during this and the Freezing Field follows your movement. Interruptions and Silences will still interrupt the spell.
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 21:04 |
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Meepo Shard lets you Poof to allies within 2000 range. that's a cool change that wont matter because not enough pros train meepo.
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 21:06 |
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lions shard seems very good, spell immune when mana draining
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 21:12 |
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mistermojo posted:lions shard seems very good, spell immune when mana draining It's interesting at least, unlike the last one that just seemed like it painted a target over your head.
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 21:13 |
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this is a fuckin PATCH right here dazzle gettin a hex on poison touch lmao is it aoe lol LC shard LS is back baby rip morph sugar free jazz fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Apr 9, 2021 |
# ? Apr 9, 2021 21:33 |
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Necronomicon removed from the game
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 21:37 |
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Sab669 posted:It's no longer channeled so you can't be interrupted. And you can Force Staff yourself into fights OK it actually can be interrupted by Stuns? In a demo game Axe taunt didn't interrupt it
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 21:44 |
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DNK posted:I actually think AM might be pickable if he could take stats over ability points. All he needs is 1/1/1 and then mass stats until he has manta finished (at which point he'll be like level 17 and able to skill poo poo). Added +2 Attributes leveling for up to 7 times (for the 7 empty levels from 1-26), and can be leveled in any order (via clicking on the talent tree circle). They will automatically be leveled if there are no other options available. lol e: Reality Protester posted:Added +2 Attributes leveling for up to 7 times (for the 7 empty levels from 1-26), and can be leveled in any order (via clicking on the talent tree circle). They will automatically be leveled if there are no other options available. yea
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 21:46 |
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Sab669 posted:OK it actually can be interrupted by Stuns? In a demo game Axe taunt didn't interrupt it May be intended since Taunt just forces Auto Attacks to target Axe?
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 21:57 |
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CM shard is actually ridiculous if you have a Dark Seer on your team. e: Is Invoker shard trash? You're never gonna hit anyone with the other two meteors. Zurreco fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Apr 9, 2021 |
# ? Apr 9, 2021 22:11 |
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:Necronomicon removed from the game Necronomicon? More like NecronomiGONE!
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 22:11 |
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Zurreco posted:CM shard is actually ridiculous if you have a Dark Seer on your team. 👀 I need to try this. I just played a game and gave it a whirl thinking it was un-interuptable but they had a fair few stuns and made me sad lol. Also this Beast Master throwing axe spam is wild. Makes me wanna play Silencer
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