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Last month's thread is here. It was discovered that clearly any of us can beat a UFC fighter because all you gotta do is punch people hard. With that said, Untrustable had the best take.Untrustable posted:I would fight a fuckin UFC fighter any day of the week. Put me in there with Ngannou and watch what happens. I'd black out after the first punch and get instantly and irreversibly brain damaged and then I could brag to the 24 hour caretaker that now has to push my wheelchair around that I fought in the UFC. They might not understand because my jaw would be wired shut until the day I died because of what the doctors would call a "condition incompatible with human jaw movement". June Recap June started off with a rather lackluster card in the form of UFC Fight Night: Smith vs Gustafsson. The card’s main event saw two Light Heavyweight title challengers take on each other. The bout was quite challenging despite some folks’ assumptions that Gustafsson would walkthrough Smith. In the end, Smith was able to submit Gustafsson after four hardfought rounds of action. Following his loss, Gustafsson announced his retirement during his post fight interview. Also on the card we saw Jimi Manuwa get nearly decapitated courtesy of a head kick from Aleksandar Rakić. It was a beautiful KO which you can relive here:  The following week the UFC headed off to Chicago for UFC 238: Cejudo vs Moraes and it was a pretty good card, but I’d agree if some though it was great. It certainly had a few oddities thrown in that dampened it but on the whole, it was a good night of fights. On the main card we saw Tony Ferguson take on Donald Cerrone in what is on paper a fight fans wet dream. Sadly this fight was abruptly stopped after Cerrone accidentally caused massive swelling in his eye after he suffered a broken nose, which caused the doctors to call it off. Cerrone was apologetic over it, and Ferguson was disappointed as he didn’t want the fight to end that way. This has to be run back, but at the same time, with his technical win over Cerrone, it would be nice to see Ferguson in the title picture and fight Khabib for the 189734986723947th attempt. The co-main event also was a stunner of a bout as Valentina Shevchenko defended her Flyweight title against Jessica Eye. This was a questionable fight to book given that, although on a win streak, Jessica Eye didn’t seem on paper to be a decent matchup for Shevchenko. However during the fight Eye showed she had enough to cause Shevchenko some concern. That being said, Shevchenko landed a clean head kick and well….just watch the gif. It was a pretty rough one.  It was a pretty scary KO (personally the scariest I’ve seen in a good while) and it took several minutes for Eye to regain consciousness and get up on the stool. Shevchenko definitely is showing she is a scary challenge at the 125lb weight class, and arguably in all of the women’s divisions excluding Champ-Champ Amanda Nunes. In the main event, the vacant Bantamweight championship was on the line as Flyweight champion Henry Cejudo and Marlon Moraes squared off. The fight was exciting for the opening rounds and it seemed like Moraes simply had the better striking and gameplan over Cejudo. However, Cejudo showed impressive adjustments to his gameplan and was able to use his pressure to force Moraes into poor positions eventually taking him down. From there, Moraes was seemingly gassed and helpless as the fight came towards its close of the third round. Cejudo, while on top, was able to land strikes that eventually caused the referee to step in and end the bout making Cejudo a Champ-Champ. We’re now clearly in the presence of the greatest combat sports athlete of all time. The final two cards of the month had two UFC Fight Nights that weren’t very impressive overall so here’s a quick rundown of the more notable fights. First up was UFC Fight Night: Moicano vs Korean Zombie. The co-main event saw a banger of a Welterweight bout between Bryan Barberena (who has been in outstanding fights for like the past five fights if I recall) and Randy Brown. The pair certainly put on a fantastic show but towards the end of the third round Barberena’s body wasn’t able to endure and he succumbed to strikes laid on by Brown. The main event was a quick fight in the Featherweight division as Chan Sung Jung (aka Korean Zombie) took on Renato Moicano. The pair spent little time to determine who was the better of the two, as Jung slipped a jab thrown by Moicano and dropped him with a counter right, following up with strikes on the ground en route to a sub one minute TKO for the Korean fighter. The next weekend we had UFC Fight Night: Ngannou vs dos Santos. This was another card that we’re going to sort of gloss over but the co-main and main event helped set up some things for their respective divisions going forward. First up in the co-main event Jussier Formiga and Joseph Benavidez took on each other (for the second time) in a Flyweight bout that saw the top two challengers in the division vye for a chance to face Henry Cejudo. For two rounds the pair darted in and out and worked hard to get the upper hand but a head kick from Benavidez helped open up an opportunity to end the fight, and that it did. Benavidez was declared the winner via TKO and has become the strongest challenger for the Flyweight championship. Benavidez has only dropped two fights out of his last 11, 1 to Demetrious Johnson and 1 to Sergio Pettis, and has also given Henry Cejudo his most recent loss. In the main event we had a Heavyweight showdown between Francis Ngannou and Junio dos Santos. Predictably, this did not last very long as both fighters are skilled knockout artists. However it was the former UFC Heavyweight Champion Junior dos Santos who succumbed to strikes only about a minute into the fight thanks to Ngannous impressive power. Francis Ngannou has now made himself a clear challenger for the UFC Heavyweight title following the winner of Daniel Cormier and Stipe Miocic. Wait....this isn’t January 2018 still is it? UFC events in July July will be a busy month as the UFC has events all weekends and also will be hosting their usual International Fight Week convention in Las Vegas. First up in the month though we have UFC 239: Jones vs Santos on July 6th. This could be a great card, and arguably the best of the year. First up we have a Welterweight bout between Michael Chiesa and Diego Sanchez, then a Light Heavyweight bout between former Middleweight champion Luke Rockhold and Jan Blachowicz. Ben Askren is facing Jorge Masvidal in a Welterweight bout that could see a top challenger for the title emerge. In the co-main event, Bantamweight champion Amanda Nunes will defend her title against former champion Holly Holm which should be a fun striking match, and in the main event we have Jon Jones defending his Light Heavyweight title against Thiago Santos. Following that we head over to California for UFC Fight Night: de Randamie vs Ladd on July 13th. This card is, as with most Fight Night cards, not too stellar to look at on paper but worth possibly watching for some craziness. Former UFC Bantamweight challenger Urijah Faber returns after a lengthy time off to take on Ricky Simon in the co-main event. In the main event, the first ever Women’s Featherweight Champion Germain de Randamie will take on Aspen Ladd which could potentially see a Featherweight title challenger emerge, especially if it means de Randamie doesn’t have to fight Cris ‘Cyborg’ Santos. Then on July 20st, the UFC travels to Texas for UFC on ESPN 4: dos Anjos vs Edwards. This ESPN card isn’t too eye-catching but here are some notable bouts. The main event will feature former Lightweight champion Rafael dos Anjos facing Leon Edwards in a Welterweight bout. Aleksei Oleinik and Walt Harris will face off in a Heavyweight bout and oh my god, Andrei Arlovski is taking on Ben Rothwell? Didn’t they both retire? Am I getting too old? Oh and the UFC’s favorite pet project, Greg Hardy, is also on the card. Finally on July 27th the UFC will host UFC 240: Holloway vs Edgar in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. The main event will see the UFC Featherweight championship on the line as Max Holloway looks to make a rebound and face off against former UFC Lightweight champion, Frankie Edgar because…..somehow Edgar is the top contender instead of Volkanovski. The co-main event is a Featerweight bout featuring Cris ‘Cyborg’ Santos and Felicia Spencer. You can only assume who de Randamie will be rooting for in this one. And finally the last notable fight on the card will be a Lightweight bout between Arman Tsarukyan and Olivier Aubin-Mercier. Overall, UFC 240 not too bad looking but nothing too fantastic once you move down from the main event. Your Current Champions  Men's Heavyweight Champion - Daniel Cormier (21-1-(1)) Starting his career as a Heavyweight, Daniel Cormier went 13 fights in the division undefeated. When he moved down to Light Heavyweight many thought he would never return to the division nor ever get the chance to become the UFC Heavyweight Champion due to his friendship with former Heavyweight Champion Cain Velasquez. That all changed when the opportunity for a super fight presented itself with Cormier stepping back into the Heavyweight ranks to take on the UFC’s longest reigning champion, Stipe Miocic at UFC 226. The stars aligned for Cormier, as well as getting a little bit of help from a few errant eye pokes, as he knocked out Miocic and become the UFC’s second person ever to hold two division titles at the same time. Following his win DC faced off a returning Brock Lesnar in a post fight trash talk session inside the cage and the two seem to be destined to fight. This will have to take place before Cormier’s previously announced retirement date of March 20, 2019. Lesnar will also be undergoing 6 months of USADA testing, which puts his earliest fight date at around January 2019, just a few weeks from Cormier’s intended retirement day. However as of January 2019 no bout has been announced though Lesnar has been in the USADA testing pool, as well as active in the WWE, indicating he may not be UFC bound or has hit a small snag with his drug testing. In April, Lesnar was announced to be retiring from MMA squashing his return fight against Cormier, so now we’re getting Cormier/Miocic 2.  Men's Light Heavyweight Champion - Jon Jones (24-1-(1)) Daniel Cormier won the belt initially in May of 2015. After a series of defenses, Cormier lost the title in a rematch against Jon Jones, who himself was stripped afterwards due to testing positive for a PED. Jones eventually settled with USADA after a 15 month investigation. Cormier was reinstated as the champion, before himself being stripped due to being a dual-weight champion and competing more recently at Heavyweight. To determine the new champion, the UFC decided to pit Jon Jones against Alexander Gustafsson in a rematch of their barn burner from 2013. Jones subsequently was able to best Gustafsson and win via third round TKO victory, becoming Light Heavyweight Champion again. However, we're still going to assume Jones pops for a PED or something …...again….and the UFC will just cover up for him…..again. Jones is set to face off against Thiago “The Hammer is My Penis” Santos at UFC 239 later this year.  Men's Middleweight Champion - Robert Whittaker (19-4) Whittaker rode a seven-fight winning streak, including shutting down the deadly takedowns of Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza to slot himself into an Interim Middleweight championship match against Yoel "Soldier of God" Romero. The canny Australian showed incredible heart in taking it to the Cuban Olympic silver medalist over five rounds, and even with a severe knee injury coming in the first he managed to outpoint his opponent to take the unanimous decision. With Georges St-Pierre vacating the Middleweight championship in early December 2017, Whittaker has now been promoted to Undisputed Middleweight Champion. After a layoff to get his health back together, Whittaker took on Yoel Romero at UFC 225. This was followed up with an expected fight with Kelvin Gastellum however it fell apart as Whittaker was rushed to the hospital just a day before the fight due to a severe hernia.  Men’s Interim Middleweight Champion - Israel Adesanya (17-0) Israel Adesanya entered the UFC for his first bout on February 11, 2018. In less than a year (by 1 day) he was headlining a UFC PPV, thanks in part to the main event falling out, against Anderson Silva. To say he was a rising star is an understatement and fate seems to be willing to back him on that notion. Following Robert Whittaker getting another injury that put him on the shelf, Whittakers initial opponent Kelvin Gastelum was paired up with Adesanya to determine who would be the Interim Middleweight Champion while Whittaker recovers. At UFC 236 Adesanya was pushed to his limits by Gastelum, but the man known as “The Last Stylebender” showed that he wasn’t all hype and nearly finished Gastelum in the final moments of the fight, which certainly helped him clinch his Unanimous Decision victory and become the UFC Interim Middleweight Champion. The expected date where Adesanya and Whittaker will unify the current Middleweight title (  GSP!) is unknown. Also he admitted to having pre-cum on his underwear after a fight on Twitter and now you can’t get that image out of your head now can you? Men's Welterweight Champion - Kamaru Usman (15-1) Debuting in the UFC back in 2015, Usman took a slow and methodical approach towards working his way up the UFC’s Welterweight division en route to a title shot. Running through opponents Damian Maia and Raphael Dos Anjos most recently with dominant performances, Usman earned the opportunity to face Tyron Woodley in Woodley’s fifth title defense. Many presumed that Woodley’s size and power would be too much for The Nigerian Nightmare, but boy were those people wrong. Throughout the entire contest, Usman controlled Woodley easily on his way to a Unanimous Decision victory with Usman winning all five rounds on all three judges scorecards. Woodley essentially never got any offense going throughout a 25 minute fight thanks to Usman’s style of smothering pressure. The next challenger for Usman is undetermined but Ben Askren beating Robbie Lawler on the same night is likely a option, though Usman getting into a buffet breakfast brawl the next morning with former Interim Champion Colby Covington could put a Covington vs Usman fight on our TVs sometime soon as well.  Men's Lightweight Champion - Khabib Nurmagomedov (27-0) Finally, it's Khabib Time. At the UFC 25th anniversary press conference, it was announced that Conor McGregor would be Nurmagomedov’s first opponent as champion. The bout went down at UFC 229 and, surprising some, Khabib dropped McGregor early in the fight but unsurprisingly relied on his wrestling to keep the Irishman down before submitting him with a crank. Post-fight however, chaos erupted as both teams got into various brawls. Khabib has said he’s sitting out his suspension, and in a show of how little he cares about the NSAC, he’s also sitting out until his buddy’s suspension is up in November. He will face UFC Interim Lightweight Champion Dustin Poirier at UFC 242 in September of this year.  Men’s Interim Lightweight Champion - Dustin Poirier (25-5-1) Dustin Poirier’s career has mostly been positive, but when it came down to big matches he tended to fall short. That all changed in 2017 and 2018 as Poirier started to string his combinations and skills together effectively and slowly but steadily worked his way up the UFC Lightweight division. Taking out the lights of Anthony Pettis, Eddie Alvarez, Justin Gaethje put Poirier in a good position to possibly challenge for the title despite how crowded the Lightweight division was. However, a failed matchup between him and Nate Diaz in 2018 kept Poirier out of action for a while thanks to injury and also made his name value drop a bit. With UFC Lightweight king Khabib Nurmagomedov sitting out most of 2019, the UFC scrambled to put together an Interim Lightweight Championship and allegedly hadn’t considered Poirier until the initial matchup fell through. Taking on UFC Featherweight Champion Max Holloway in the main event, Poirier finally didn’t crack under the pressure and reached the highest point in his entire MMA career, becoming the new Interim Lightweight Champion. A match with Khabib will happen in September in Abu Dhabi for UFC 242.  Men's Featherweight Champion - Max Holloway (20-4) Holloway put together a 9-fight win streak, with several Performance of the Night bonuses, before answering the call to contend for the Interim Featherweight Championship at UFC 206 in December 2016. Taking out Anthony Pettis with a body kick and punches late in the third round, he set himself up for a unification bout against Jose Aldo at UFC 212. At that event in early June 2017, he defeated Aldo in the third round with focused ground and pound, and unified the belts. Frankie Edgar was announced as Holloway's first defense, but with Edgar out with a broken face, the rematch with Jose Aldo Jr took place at UFC 218 in early December 2017. It was a carbon copy of the first match, with Aldo unable to weather the combinations of The Blessed One, this time being stopped in the third round. Holloway was again scheduled to defend against Frankie Edgar in March 2018, however a leg injury to the champion has forced that fight to the co-main with Brian Ortega stepping in. Travesty struck once again as Holloway had to pull out of UFC 226 with “concussion like symptoms.” Ortega vs Holloway was an epic fight that, sadly, saw Ortega be heavily outmatched on the feet but maintain his ability to stay alive for 20 minutes. Holloway won via TKO between the 4th and 5th round after the above posted stylings he put onto T-City. Holloway then fell short in his attempt to win the UFC Interim Lightweight Championship, but nobody things that Holloway is done being a fantastic fighter to watch. Frankie Edgar has been tapped to be Max Holloway’s opponent next because....I guess why not? The fight will happen at UFC 240.  Men's Bantamweight Champion - Henry Cejudo (15-2) Having claimed his second UFC Bantamweight Championship TJ Dillashaw accepted the challenge of moving down to the Flyweight division to face Henry Cejudo for the Flyweight title. However things didn’t go as planned and Dillashaw was TKO’d in just under 90 seconds. Things didn’t get better as Dillashaw was then confirmed to have tested positive for EPO in not only that fight but the rematch he had with Cody Garbrandt. With the title vacated, totally of Dillashaw’s own choosing and not UFC punishing him, Cejudo was matched with Marlon Moraes to determine who would be the king of the Bantamweights. After a cringey week of fight hype, mostly on Cejudo’s part, the pair faced off in June of 2019 at UFC 238. Moraes looked to be be dominant in the first round but Cejudo rallied back in the second and third rounds to eventually put away “Magic” Moraes. Now the king of two divisions, Cejudo is very vocal about how he is the greatest combat sport athlete ever. I mean, he has an Olympic Gold Medal and two UFC championships to his name. Clearly he is the greatest and we should just get used to watching his own form of performance art. Men's Flyweight Champion - Henry Cejudo (15-2) Having clawed his way back to a second fight against Flyweight Champion Demetrius Johnson, many assumed Cejudo would get dispatched by the champion once again. However, The Messenger was able to take the champion to a decision utilizing his wrestling which some argued Cejudo used more to stall and less to offer offense. Regardless the judges gave the nod to former Olympian who quickly took his first moments as champion to call out the winner of the UFC Bantamweight fight. In a matchup at 125 lbs against Bantamweight Champion TJ Dillashaw, Cejudo took less than a minute to put Dillashaw away. In the aftermath, Cejudo offered a rematch to Dillashaw but this time at 135 lbs. Fate was not kind to the Bantamweight Champion as Dillashaw was flagged by NYSAC & USADA, and the Bantamweight championship was quickly vacated. Cejudo faced Moraes at UFC 238 and became the 4th Champ-Champ and because of that, Dana has decided not to shut down the Flyweight division which we were supposed to have believed was being killed any day now. Yay?  Women's Featherweight Champion - Amanda Nunes(17-4) Amanda Nunes claimed the Featherweight Championship with relative ease given the opponent she was facing was the long time problem known as Cristiane “Cyborg” Justino. After a quick KO in the first round we’re now left wondering “What is the Featherweight Division really for now that Cyborg is dethroned?” Nunes seems more interested in defending her 135 lbs. belt though we may see a rematch against Cyborg soon. Nunes is going to take her next fight at Bantamweight, which isn’t surprising given that Featherweight is a bit of a joke division. Women's Bantamweight Champion - Amanda Nunes (17-4) Nunes headlined UFC 200 in July of 2016, putting a vicious beating on Miesha Tate and securing a rear-naked choke victory in a little over three minutes. She backed this up with a brutal 48-second TKO victory against former Women's Bantamweight Champion and WMMA pioneer Ronda Rousey in late December 2016. Nunes was slated to take on Valentina Shevchenko in a rematch of their March 2016 fight, with that match being moved to UFC 215 in September 2017. Nunes retained by a razor-thin split decision. Her next fight was against Raquel Pennington at UFC 224, which was held this month in Rio de Janeiro. Nunes spent four rounds mauling Pennington, then pounded out a clearly already finished Pennington in the fifth, to retain her Championship. Nunes then faced Cyborg for the UFC Women’s Featherweight Championship and much to the surprise of pretty much everyone, beat the long time feared Featherweight with relative ease. With her victory, Nunes became the first two division champion in Women’s UFC History as well as the first Champ-Champ in UFC Women’s History. Nunes is expected to face former champion Holly Holm at UFC 239.  Women’s Flyweight Champion - Valentina Shevchenko(17-3) The UFC’s Women’s Flyweight title was vacanted after Nicco Montaño failed to make it to the weigh-ins at UFC 228, citing a need to visit the hospital. This, in turn, left her bout with Valentina Shevchenko nullified. Having not fought in roughly 9 months, the UFC decided Montaño was no longer the champion of the division that they just made 10 months ago and instead opted to vacate the title. As a result of this, Shevchenko faced Former Strawweight Champion Joanna (Jędrzejczyk) at UFC 231 winning a clear decision victory. The next opponent for “Bullet” was Jessica Eye at UFC 238, who Shevchenko basically murdered and it was not a fun KO. Seriously, it was pretty heart breaking if you have an ounce of sympathy in your body.  Women's Strawweight Champion - Jessica Andrade (20-6) With the fall of Joanna Jędrzejczyk, Strawweight seemed to be a “pick’em” in regards to who would be the next champion. Rose Namajunas’ reign seemed to be doing pretty well given her dominant victories over Joanna Champion, but a layoff thanks to UFC 229 related issues and injuries put her out of the spotlight for a while. In that time Jessica Andrade worked her way up the division and finally got another shot at Championship gold after 2 years of hard work following her loss to the then Joanna Champion. Andrade seemed to have a rough start in her second title attempt, but in the second round was able to pull off a Pride FC style slam onto Namajunas (who was going for a submission) and thus knocked her out. With the win Andrade is the new queen of the UFC Strawweights and the first Brazilian to hold that division’s title. Andrade is scheduled to make her first defense against China's Weili Zhang in September on a Fight Night card live from Shenzhen, Guangdong, China. Other poo poo In the ever crazy landscape that is MMA fight rosters, you can always head over to the B-League MMA: Grand Prixs and Untested Pee thread by CommonShore if your favorite fighter is unceremoniously fired via Twitter by Dana White. Head over to the 2019 Best & Worst of MMA thread to post your memorable moments of 2019. I thought nobody was going to top Hardy for the Foul of the Year, but both Jones and Masvidal this past month made a compelling case. If you’re itching for some UFC or even Z-League content check out the UFC Fight Pass thread UFC Fight Pass Thread - Earning Your 3rd Degree Blackbelt In MMA Posting. This thread is sometimes being updated information on new and upcoming events that are non-UFC like Quintet (it’s really good!), Glory SuperfightSeries, Eddie Bravo Invitational, and is also good for general banter about old fights. Shout out to DumbWhiteGuy for providing details for the MMA IRC channel. irc.synirc.net #mma Join your fellow MMA fans in discussing all things MMA in a place probably secure against nuclear armageddon - IRC has been around for so long I'm not convinced anything could kill it. As usual if there’s any mistakes please let me know and I’ll fix it as soon as I can. Mekchu fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Jul 1, 2019 |
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Hey I'm in the OP! I wanna thank my oildome posts and my everlasting love for my boy Arlovski who will knock out Rothwell. I'll even take a 3 day  on that.(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Did i totally miss the UFC 242 individual tickets going on sale and now i need to buy a hotel package to get into the fight? e: yes, yes i did  e2: I can not find any information regarding the categories of tickets, but the best I can do is a Cat 4 for staying at the Mariott F1 hotel on Yas Island. hmmm Waroduce fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Jul 1, 2019 |
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Jul 1, 2019 14:37
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So Max is not the only one? https://twitter.com/realdaveimboden/status/1145730508439134214
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kensei posted:So Max is not the only one? wait is that the wannabe liam neeson guy?
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coconono posted:wait is that the wannabe liam neeson guy? oi dats jason statham that is
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The prelims for the upcoming card are good as hell too. Giblert v Arnold Allen is a good test to see if Allen is legit and if Melendez should be in a cage anymore and we also have yadong v Perez which should be a cracker. They also have a really boring fight between Markos and Claudia so I can cook some food and or do a beer run. Just a shame no O'Malley fight.
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Unless you mean "boring" as in you don't care about the matchup in and of itself, I don't think Claudia is particularly prone to snoozers.
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not ufc, but i thought you guys would appreciate this bit from the wrestling observer back issue this week (from 2002)Wrestling Observer Newsletter, 6/24/2002 posted:It was confirmed this week that Don Frye vs. Yoshihiro Takayama would main event the 6/23 Pride show. There was really little choice from a business perspective, as they had far too weak a marquee show for a 27,000-seat Arena because of so many injuries. They were nowhere close to sold out and of the three opponents they came up with for Frye, Takayama was by far the best ticket seller. Lots of the MMA hardcores in the U.S. who have no business sense are hating this, but they still don't understand that it is still largely the pro wrestlers who pay the freight that allows matches like Anderson Silva vs. Paulo Filho that they rave about but that nobody pays money to see, happen. It's as silly as hardcores complaining about Hogan vs. Piper in WCW when it was still drawing huge money (when it stopped, that was another story). Besides, even though Frye is something like 15-1 and Takayama has never won a real match, it is on paper an exciting match because both will throw down and both, being wrestlers, have the understanding that an exciting fight and losing can be better for them than a dull fight and winning, which is a good attitude for fans at least. Takayama has never had a bad match in Pride, largely because he has no defense and can take a hell of a shot. Takayama held a press conference on 6/15 saying that he's a better puncher and a better kicker that Frye, but Frye is a better wrestler than he is
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Bluedeanie posted:Unless you mean "boring" as in you don't care about the matchup in and of itself, I don't think Claudia is particularly prone to snoozers. I found her last three fights to be really boring tbh. She's a tireless grappler but doesn't do much with the position and a rudimentary striker. I enjoyed her fight with KK though.
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Bluedeanie posted:Unless you mean "boring" as in you don't care about the matchup in and of itself, I don't think Claudia is particularly prone to snoozers. It's basically this. I'm sorry.
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Hasn’t she been on kind of a skid compared to her two Joanna fights and those in between? Getting crushed by Andrade is understandable, but I can’t recall her looking good past the Joanna rematch.
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She won a pretty questionable (imo) decision against Esparza in between getting trucked by Andrade and losing a close-ish fight to Ansaroff, so yeah "on a skid" is a fair assessment.
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STONE COLD 64 posted:not ufc, but i thought you guys would appreciate this bit from the wrestling observer back issue this week (from 2002) And anyone who hasn't see that fight needs to drop everything and watch it NOW.
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SA Forums Poster posted:And anyone who hasn't see that fight needs to drop everything and watch it NOW. Wait what the gently caress is Anderson Silva vs. Paulo Filho in that quote?
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whos ngannou fighting for the heavyweight championship. its probably not miocic or cormier right, unless miocic wins somehow.
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Brut posted:Wait what the gently caress is Anderson Silva vs. Paulo Filho in that quote? I think it was the Khabib-Ferguson of its era.
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Brut posted:Wait what the gently caress is Anderson Silva vs. Paulo Filho in that quote? I think he meant Ryo Chonan(which was a dope fight) because I'm not seeing Filho fight on Anderson's record. e: jfc Dave Meltzer get an editor.
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coconono posted:I think he meant Ryo Chonan(which was a dope fight) because I'm not seeing Filho fight on Anderson's record. I think Dave meant that fight more in a "hardcore fans" dream fight
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TheCool69 posted:I think Dave meant that fight more in a "hardcore fans" dream fight yeah I had to read that several times. Dave's writing has gotten better over the years but some of these archived newsletters are like reading texts from people just crawling out of car accidents.
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I.N.R.I posted:whos ngannou fighting for the heavyweight championship. its probably not miocic or cormier right, unless miocic wins somehow. trying to parse this, are you saying if dc wins, he will retire and francis will fight someone (not stipe, who at this point would be on a 2 fight skid) for the vacant title? now that I'm looking at the HW rankings, it is extremely dire 1. stipe (in this scenario just lost again to dc) 2. francis (lookin for a fight) 3. jds (just lost to francis) 4. blaydes (lost to francis recently) 5. lewis (2 fight skid) 6. volkov (hasnt fought since lewis) 7. reem (2 wins, but the memory of francis putting him in the grave is v powerful 8. cain (lost to francis) 9. oliynyk (lost to reem) 10. abdurakhimov (will probably lose to blaydes) guess it would be blagoi ivanov's time to shine?
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I'm kinda ok if the UFC decides to say "Stipe, we gave you the rematch you wanted (vs. DC), now it's time for the rematch we want (vs. Francis). Also my brain is working really hard but I think you need to book everything the same way regardless of who wins DC x Stipe.
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From the last thread:Memento posted:Yeah like Mark Hunt I don't think ever actually hit that hard in the grand scheme of things, but his ability to put his middle knuckle on the point of your chin or behind your ear meant dudes just folded. Nope. Hunt is or at least was the Worlds Strongest Man. Source: that gameshow where he easily tug-of-warred bob sapp and the actual worlds strongest man off a ledge. Also when he effortlessly tossed Ubereem to the side in their first bout
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Mark Hunt broke Struve's face so hard there was talk about Struve never fighting again. Go look at the x-rays Memento.
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coconono posted:Mark Hunt broke Struve's face so hard there was talk about Struve never fighting again. Go look at the x-rays Memento. stefan sutoruvu, rip in pieces
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IMO there are dudes who I think hit harder than Mark Hunt, but Hunt still hits in the upper percentile of power and on top of that hits with a high level of accuracy and technical proficiency, which set him apart from the rest of the heavyweights.
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cain velasquez has been booked in a trios match at triplemania, so he's probably gonna explode when he gets hit with a chair
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Jul 2, 2019 18:37
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LobsterMobster posted:cain velasquez has been booked in a trios match at triplemania, so he's probably gonna explode when he gets hit with a chair August is a long time away, he'll blow both quads juggling live hyenas or whatever new torture his gym comes up with.
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Jul 2, 2019 18:45
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coconono posted:August is a long time away, he'll blow both quads juggling live hyenas or whatever new torture his gym comes up with. Naw breh they’ve completely changed things up and this is the best training camp of his life and...oh, there goes his knee again.
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Jul 2, 2019 18:54
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Bluedeanie posted:IMO there are dudes who I think hit harder than Mark Hunt, but Hunt still hits in the upper percentile of power and on top of that hits with a high level of accuracy and technical proficiency, which set him apart from the rest of the heavyweights. when he brained kongo it was a real moment of, oh yeah, by heavyweight standards hunt is really excellent on the feet.
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Jul 2, 2019 19:09
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DC's new lil' analysis program on ESPN+ (Detail) is pretty good. First episode was Amanda Nunes
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LobsterMobster posted:trying to parse this, are you saying if dc wins, he will retire and francis will fight someone (not stipe, who at this point would be on a 2 fight skid) for the vacant title? sorry, thats what i meant yeah. i guess it would be volkov then
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What are you guys talking about? Why wouldn't it just be Stipe vs Ngannou for the vacant title if DC retires? I could theoretically see Ngannou not wanting to fight Stipe again but turning down fights won't lead you to a title shot. I don't see any reason why Stipe would turn the fight down, he wants that belt. Losing a rematch to the same guy is not a 2 fight skid and I don't think matchmakers see it that way. I guess if Stipe gets hurt or gets a long medical suspension, they could do ngannou vs someone for the interim or some poo poo like that, but they might just call it a title eliminator instead. Brut fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Jul 2, 2019 |
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Brut posted:What are you guys talking about? Why wouldn't it just be Stipe vs Ngannou for the vacant title if DC retires? maybe ... was just wondering. personally i think ngannou could probably beat miocic if he can wait long enough to try to do it in round 2 instead of 1. miocic was absolutely dead on his feet after the first fight despite being in 0 danger at all after the first 30 seconds
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LobsterMobster posted:trying to parse this, are you saying if dc wins, he will retire and francis will fight someone (not stipe, who at this point would be on a 2 fight skid) for the vacant title? dana white, red in the face, sullenly pushing a handtruck of money up the driveway to Ryan Bader's house
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CarlCX posted:dana white, red in the face, sullenly pushing a handtruck of money up the driveway to Ryan Bader's house Actually yeah this would be pretty cool
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If he's gonna pay anybody to come back it should be Rumble. Tell Francis not to cut and make it for the inaugural superheavyweight belt. e: poo poo, I had missed that Copeland beat up his wife in front of his kids in February
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Wise Learned Man posted:If he's gonna pay anybody to come back it should be Rumble. Tell Francis not to cut and make it for the inaugural superheavyweight belt. Ngannou's never weighed in at 265 in the UFC. 262 vs Reem and 263 vs Stipe but most of his other fights he's around 255. I'll take Rumble vs Hot balls for the superheavyweight belt though. Brut fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Jul 2, 2019 |
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Jul 2, 2019 22:53
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Brut posted:Ngannou's never weighed in at 265 in the UFC. 262 vs Reem and 263 vs Stipe but most of his other fights he's around 255. He's lost a bit of weight. He looked lean as hell for the JDS fight.
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To be fair Ngannou Stipe was January 2018. So even if Stipe or DC wins and you'd think they'd aim for around December or the new years card for the next heavy weight title fight. I would think if it's Stipe it's enough time for them to call it two years since their last meeting ngannou has improved blah blah blah and they play a loop of Ngannou flatlining everyone in the hype. Slap it on the card with whoever else has a belt at whatever weight class and you've got a solid start. The question is though, if DC winswinsloses, does he stay on to fight Ngannou, now 9 months removed from his retirement date or does he retire as possibly the best heavy weight ever or does he come back for a rubber match in the event of a loss to Stipe? Or do we get J. Jones V DC at heavyweight which is what we all want to see? Dc v Stipe has lots of cool implications but you can't really deny Ngannou deserves the next shot.
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