|
So, this video shows Floyd being arrested on May 25. How does it go from him being in cuffs to the cops kneeling on the guy's neck till he's dead? https://www.fox9.com/video/688458 https://www.tmz.com/2020/05/27/surveillance-footage-before-george-floyd-killed-minneapolis-not-resisting/ What was the chronology here? I know I'm looking for rationality and cause and effect in a matter that doesn't have any logic to it. Is it really as simple as the police killed a man because he pissed them off? PeterCat fucked around with this message at 02:09 on May 28, 2020 |
#
¿
May 28, 2020 02:06
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ Apr 24, 2024 18:54 |
|
|
That's an ad for a TV show.
|
|
#
¿
Jun 5, 2020 04:08
|
|
|
Would repealing Posse Comitatus and making law enforcement a branch of the military be a solution to some of the problems the United States has with law enforcement? My thoughts are that there is no accountability in modern law enforcement. There is no equivalent to the UCMJ, meaning that police officers do not face any legal penalties for failing to follow the orders and do not face legal consequences for failing to do their duty in the way that service members do. Law Enforcement Officers act like they are defacto military, referring to anyone who is not in law enforcement as a "civilian," yet the departments do not face consequences for ignoring the edicts of the civilian leadership. Examples of this are the insubordination shown by the NYPD towards the Mayor's office, and the Columbus, OH police department ignoring the orders to stop using tear gas on protesters. Servicemembers are not allowed to form unions or strike, and can be held accountable for malingering and intentionally sabotaging their work. A police officer and quit at any time, while a servicemember is bound by their contract of enlistment or service obligations. The Posse Comitatus act was passed to prevent the US Army from enforcing the law in the south during reconstruction. The Army had been used to fight the Klan and protect the rights of newly freed slaves. Once the Army was prevented from doing so, there was nothing to protect the rights of black people in the South and the era of Jim Crow began. The US Army has been used to enforce racial order, see for example President Eisenhower's use of the 101st Airborne to enforce integration in Arkansas. My feeling is that by Federalizing US law enforcement, either by making it a part of the military or the equivalent, it would standardize training throughout the country while creating a greater amount of accountability for law enforcement while also forcing them to adhere to a higher standard of conduct with more recourses to deal with problem behavior. I apologize if this is a little meandering, I had a 3 AM call and am just typing this out before I finish my shift.
|
|
#
¿
Jun 23, 2020 11:39
|
|
|
Liquid Communism posted:Fuuuuck no it wouldn't. Weirdly enough the article you are quoting states the Army is much more neutral than the e Guard or local law enforcement. article posted:On four separate occasions between 1919 and 1921 the United States Army was ordered to intervene in labor disputes between miners and coal mine operators in West Virginia. Federal military interventions to maintain or restore civil authority threatened by unrest or riots originating from labor disputes was not unknown duty to army personnel. Between 1877 and 1920 several presidents had called upon the army to assist civil officials in quelling domestic disorders under authority of the Constitution and congressional statutes. In the vast majority of federal military interventions prior to 1917, regular army troops succeeded in restoring order quickly, with a minimum of injury and bloodshed, in strict adherence to orders issued within legal parameters set by the Constitution, federal statutes, and army regulations. Although questions of army neutrality were constantly raised, especially by labor groups and workingmen who were most often the focus of federal military interventions, historically United States Army actions during American domestic disturbances were amazingly non-partisan and non-violent when compared to the record of National Guard forces while under state control.1
|
|
#
¿
Jun 23, 2020 18:18
|
|
|
PeterCat posted:Weirdly enough the article you are quoting states the Army is much more neutral than the e Guard or local law enforcement. More to my point, I was talking about the accountability the military system provides, not that the Army as it stands is doctrinally set up to be a police force.
|
|
#
¿
Jun 23, 2020 18:20
|
|
|
Internet Wizard posted:Applying something like a UCMJ to cops would be a net gain, though. A universal set of laws, standards, and most importantly RESTRICTIONS that all cops across the country must adhere to would be a huge step forward. Thank you. This is exactly what I was getting at.
|
|
#
¿
Jun 23, 2020 20:43
|
|
|
Why do news articles never include the photos referenced and never give an accurate description of what the photos are?
|
|
#
¿
Jul 1, 2020 20:37
|
|
|
I tried to find the footage of a Des Moines cop who shot a woman while aiming at her dog and found out a cop in Arlington , Texas had done the same thing. https://youtu.be/6KhRcIOuurI https://youtu.be/67TFsWLyd5I WTF. Cops shouldn't have guns.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 6, 2020 15:48
|
|
|
Meanwhile in Ireland a drunk is able to assault the police with a terrier and no one was shot. In the US he'd be charged with assault with a deadly weapon at the least.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 7, 2020 16:33
|
|
|
BIG HEADLINE posted:I've been recalling this clip from a bad movie recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwZyoBUIINw As a fellow old man I have to point out the 2003 isn't recently. So you may have recently been recalling it, Anyway carry on.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 22, 2020 19:05
|
|
|
The police shouldn't be allowed to have guns. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDaNU7yDnsc
|
|
#
¿
Dec 29, 2020 19:53
|
|
|
I'm very curious about the training the police would give the ARNG during “40 hours of traditional police training in the use of deadly force.” https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/21/abbott-deploys-armed-national-guard-to-border-to-arrest-illegal-aliens-for-trespassing/ The Federalist posted:Texas Gov. Greg Abbott gave the green light for thousands of specially trained National Guard troops to go to the Southern U.S. border and begin making arrests of illegal aliens who are trespassing in the state. Biden should do what Eisenhower did and Federalize the Texas National Guard. That would take the Texas Governor out of the chain of command.
|
|
#
¿
Oct 22, 2021 16:51
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ Apr 24, 2024 18:54 |
|
|
Internet Wizard posted:What kind of legal precedent is there for NG forces being used to arrest people on criminal trespass charges That's been my question. Since these guys are not on Title 10 Federal orders it falls under the state's jurisdiction, but it was always my understanding that posse commitatus still applied to the NG. I admit to not being an expert on military law, so I could be wrong. Everything I've seen so far with Guard on the border has been sure to emphasis "assisting" law enforcement as opposed to performing law enforcement duties.
|
|
#
¿
Oct 23, 2021 04:52
|
|