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Happy Landfill posted:How many times does she have to give him that...look? Eugh, this comic is so creepy. Why does everyone in Snout's harem have to look at him in such a sexual way? To protect myself, i'm going to pretend Snout cut a rancid fart he doesn't know makes any noise due to his deafness between panel 1 and 2 to explain inkwich's face in panels 2 and 3. As to the content this is... breathtaking. There's not getting to the fireworks factory and then there's starting in the fireworks factory and instead of shooting fireworks at each other, you gear up to go to a different fireworks factory.
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It's been two years. Two years in and we're getting a library brochure. This is what it's all been leading up to.
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Jun 9, 2021 09:25
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There is absolutely no way it's been two years.
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Libra posted:There is absolutely no way it's been two years. It's been two years since the Legacy of Dominic Deegan [...]
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oriongates posted:That look makes me so uncomfortable and so many people give snout that look. It's like the look you'd give a Make a Wish child that doesn't know they're dying yet. And it's all over the comic. Does Mookie know what that look means on any level? I'd say this is from one of his Japanese Animes but that kind of "mommy harem" stuff is pretty new. Has he talked about Danmachi on Twitter?
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Jun 9, 2021 11:01
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I think a large part of it is that Mookie is trying to communicate entirely through expressions (because "no" "dialogue" "comic"). Except he's really, really bad at it. Because I don't think he's trying to do this, at least not consciously. It's hard to avoid the "mommy's good boy" comparison because of what a wet noodle snout is, but it isn't just Ink Witch. Arudak gives snout the same look all the time and Thelonious even gave Arudak a variation of the look when we first see them on screen together. I think he's just got a very limited expression range and this one is just the closest match to whatever he's trying to communicate in these panels. Which is an undeniable mess. It's the same reason snout keeps making the slack-jawed expression of someone whose dentist used too much novacaine: without words, mookie is resorting to exaggerated, stupid-looking faces to try and communicate any degree of emotion. The only expression that he seems to be able to manage with any reliability is one of sardonic exasperation...which is probably because he had a lot of practice with it in Deegan Classic. Otherwise all his faces are these overdone caricatures of emotion. EDIT: Rather than saying 'bad' I should really say 'wildly inconsistent'. Because sometimes he manages fairly well (he seems fairly good at Snout's face...until the moment snout opens his mouth at which point he looks horrifying or like a absolute doofus).
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Jun 9, 2021 11:29
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This was and still is one of the worst things I’ve ever read
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Jun 9, 2021 13:26
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Strange how Cassafin loses her breasts while Runcible is returned to normal with no fuss. Definitely nothing going on there, nope, no sir.
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Jun 9, 2021 13:26
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So is Corpsemom just not in the comic anymore...? She literally hasn't appeared since the previous night, despite the comic ostensibly focusing on her for weeks and making a huge deal about how serious her condition is.
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Jun 9, 2021 14:04
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Honestly I keep reading the looks ardurak & ink witch give snout not as creepy bedroom eyes but as cloying parent eyes for their big boy who had a rough day and ready for a new day of adventure to make up for it
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Jun 9, 2021 14:21
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I’ve worked for several libraries and I have never seen a library with an ad pamphlet like that.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:So is Corpsemom just not in the comic anymore...? She literally hasn't appeared since the previous night, despite the comic ostensibly focusing on her for weeks and making a huge deal about how serious her condition is. Someone told Mookie she was Problematic so she's being unceremoniously memory holed. She'll show up in about three months equally as abruptly, just like Ink Mom.
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Jun 9, 2021 17:01
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See, that's what I thought about the "DEAF" patch, but now it's back like nothing happened...
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Jun 9, 2021 17:02
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Arudak lives in a mid-budget motel. The Ink Witch picked up a tourist brochure from the lobby.
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Jun 9, 2021 17:08
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Panel 2 Snout has terrifyingly circular eyes. Just awful, and the combination of that with the Ink Witch making the ambiguous emotion bedroom eyes is worse.
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Beelzebufo posted:
This is some hypocritical bullshit, given we've seen how Dominic has no compunction using his seer powers to invade other people's (such as his students) privacy and get whatever information he wants. And him saying he trusts Luna to tell him stuff when she's ready rings hollow because Dominic himself didn't tell Luna about Nielsen's plans, under the guise that he trusts her. gently caress you, Mookie. rannum posted:Honestly I keep reading the looks ardurak & ink witch give snout not as creepy bedroom eyes but as cloying parent eyes for their big boy who had a rough day and ready for a new day of adventure to make up for it Mookie hasn't changed a single bit so I doubt he's thought of making Arudak as a potential romantic partner for Snout. Has he even made a gay pairing in one of his softcore porn drawings on Twitter? The way Legacy devolved into Snout (and Corpsemomwife) being infantilized and having his Ink Mom and Orc Dad look at him as if he's the bestest boy ever is incredibly creepy.
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  I just can't with this saccharine sweetness between corpsemom and Snout. Nothing about their relationship is ok.
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Jun 11, 2021 07:14
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Someone let slip there was more Dominic Deegan and now I'm all caught up on the thread. Honestly I'm not surprised at Legacy given where the original went in its second half (nowhere, agonisingly slowly). Thanks for the read-through of Star Power; I actually thought there was some potential in those later stories with Dr Hymn and the alien mobster planet if Star Power wasn't there with the I Win powerset. The character were all still very much Mookie archetypes but Garth's art sold them much better. I also thought it helped that they had to write collaboratively issue by issue instead of whatever whim Mookie is following now strip by strip.
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Jun 11, 2021 07:41
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hmmm how do i let the reader know that this guy is sad about his dead wife i know, i'll just have him pull out a picture of her and look at it sadly at random, in front of everyone master of story writing
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Jun 11, 2021 08:00
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Just pulling out the framed photo I keep of my dead(?) wife that I carry around in my pocket.Trapezium Dave posted:I also thought it helped that they had to write collaboratively issue by issue As far as I know that actually never happened, Mookie was solely in charge of the writing and Garth was solely in charge of the art (aside from the bonus story). Someone mentioned that's part of what caused Garth to say "gently caress it" and end the comic, Mookie didn't want to plot out the comic long term because it would "ruin the surprise" for him and Garth got tired of waiting on Mookie to write it because it meant he could never have a buffer or get a head start on future issues.
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Twelve by Pies posted:As far as I know that actually never happened, Mookie was solely in charge of the writing and Garth was solely in charge of the art (aside from the bonus story). I am prepared to be disappointed.
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Jun 11, 2021 08:10
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Snout's eyes in that second to last panel reminds me of that Ivan the Terrible painting. Like, those are the eyes of horrified realization, not "Oh that guy is saaaaad."
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Jun 11, 2021 08:19
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So with waffleimages back, who's got links to the old threads? :v
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Jun 11, 2021 08:28
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Dear gently caress, I do not think I've ever seen sequential art that is so bad at communicating movement, place or continuous action. I mean, intellectually, I know there are worse comics...but certainly, I don't think I've ever seen someone who has worked in comics for so long do it so badly. And to be clear...this isn't a lack of skill, generally speaking. Earlier strips in this very comic have been, largely, fine at it. But it's like we're seeing his skills decaying in front of our eyes. And he was only ever "okay" at best.  So...snout gets up, gets dressed, and then suddenly we're at the table and he's eating. That's...okay. Fair enough. It's a bad transition, but the continuity is functional: what do you do after waking up? You eat breakfast. The presence of Bee tells us that we're in the dining room. Then Arudak shows up and hands snout the book. It's not clear if Snout's gape-mouthed goggle-eyed expression is because he's surprised to see Arudak, surprised to see the book, or both. My best guess is that Arudak has only just arrived...but that's honestly just because I can't for the life of me think of what Arudak would be doing in this scene that would lead naturally to him handing snout the book in the middle of the meal. But even then it's not a tremendous issue, a dining area is communal and the idea of Arudak just arriving with the present for his Good Boy isn't catastrophic or anything. (side note: why does this book belong with Snout? He didn't buy it. He has no understanding of its contents. It's not even really relevant to his current goals.)  Smash cut to Snout standing, mid-hug with Ink Witch as though there's an entire missing page showing her arrival and the two of them greeting one another. In fact, there I literally no way to tell if this is the dining area and Ink Witch has just arrived or if Snout has left the dining room and arrived at Ink Witch's unknown location (John Oliver's white void?). It's not even clear if Arudak is still here. Since we're never given an indication of movement, we can only assume this is still in the dining room. And now we catch up. This time we do have a couple of continuity links: we see Corpsey has just arrived and we see Snout is still holding the brochure, so we can assume that this panel occurs immediately following the last panel as Corpsey shows up and gets her hugs. Then, finally we get confirmation that Arudak is with them still...but suddenly our previous assumptions about the location are thrown into chaos as Arudak picks up his photo (???) of his own corpse wife. Which I guess means we're in his study? I mean, that makes absolutely no sense. It would mean that Snout and Arudak have left the dining room and gone to Arudak's study in order to meet Ink Witch...who is waiting inside Arudak's study? For no purpose other than to give Snout a brochure? But it's the only thing that makes any sense with the presence of the photo (?!?!?!). The study is the previously established location of the photo (?!!?!!) and even if somehow we could accept that Arudak just keeps his deadwife pictures all over his giant tower, snout can't see the picture, which means the only reason he's able to intuit what Arudak is looking at is because this is the photo (!!!!) we've seen him looking at before, in Arudak's study. Utterly bizarre location choices aside, I can't get over how wasteful these pages are. There are four panels on two pages that do nothing but show two people meeting and greeting snout. There's two panels doing nothing but showing us that Snout has a brochure that communicates nothing except the library's card policy. Two panels showing snout getting back a book that no one gives a poo poo about (one of which is a copy-paste with a post-it note on it). Three panels showing snout waking up and having breakfast, something we could have easily managed ourselves. And then finally, a panel showing that Arudak is sad about his deadwife, something that has been clearly established twice already. As much as the landscape shots are incredible time-wasters, there's at least the intent to create a sense of mood and to show off artistry. It's a comically bad attempt and mookie needs to stop. But this isn't even that. It's like a yawning void under a shell of content. These three pages have taught us nothing, and we are all worse for having seen them.
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Was there ever a transition from the study to the dining area? All I remember is the cast being at the study and then Arudak pointing to the dining table, but there might have been the bath in-between.
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Synthbuttrange posted:So with waffleimages back, who's got links to the old threads? :v they were definitely linked earlier in this thread. like, much earlier. i'll see if i can scrounge them up
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Tesseraction posted:Comically enough I grepped IRC logs for "Dominic Deegan" after a URL and the result I picked linked to one of your posts in the final thread!
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YF-23 posted:Was there ever a transition from the study to the dining area? All I remember is the cast being at the study and then Arudak pointing to the dining table, but there might have been the bath in-between. It was a really bizarre sequence. Arudak sniffs snout in his study, indicating his need for a bath. Smash cut to Snout and corpsey chilling in the bath. Then, snout and corpsey get out of the bath and change into fancy new clothes that are waiting for them in what seems to be a changing room outside of the bathtub... Another smash cut, this time to Ink Witch sewing the deaf patch onto Snout's new clothes. There is absolutely no indication how much time has passed and whether Ink Witch showed up at the changing room or if they went somewhere else to meet her, or what inspired her to sew snout's clothes while he was still wearing them...or where she got the Deaf patch from for that matter...WTF...why did she just have a patch with the word Deaf on it? We know now that it wasn't the patch from Snout's overalls, so that means that they just...had someone sew a patch as some kind of weird welcoming present for snout? But the only reason he would need a new patch is if he's getting new clothes...which he was...so why not just embroider the word onto the clothes you've already gotten for him rather than waiting for him to put those clothes on and then sewing on some weird cloth patch that you made for him separately? What the gently caress is wrong with this comic? ...anyway, it basically feels like the above panel where it just suddenly skips past what feels like two or three pages of content without explanation. But Ink Witch does put the patch on snout's new duds and then (without leaving the scene) snout suddenly gets a whiff of something delicious, like a loving looney toon. Following his nose, he ends up in front of a table covered in food. At this point we have no clue where in the tower we are. Snout walked here from his previous location with Ink Witch but we have no indication whether or not he left the bathing area or not. Further confusing things, we find out that this is not the dining area (when Bee grabs snout's tail), but rather it is some kind of...food staging area. It's not the kitchen...but it's not the dining room...it's just a place where they put the food on display. In fact, they feel the need to have a sign that tells people that the food in this bizarre culinary purgitory is not to be eaten, you have to go to the dining room and wait to be served. A totally normal thing to do in someone's home. So, at that point, all we know is that at some point snout went from the bathing area to the dining area, with a mysterious gap in time and distance. The one thing we can say for sure is that the dining room and study are not the same place. We get a full view of the study and it is completely lacking in tables and we know the dining room features a large one...although it does change back and forth between circular and square depending on current perspective.
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Trapezium Dave posted:I'm hoping at least that Mookie wrote the comic issue by issue, rather than going "here is page 1, draw it and I'll get inspired for page 2". iirc according to blog posts Mookie wrote page by page like he normally did usually, Garth got him to plan out a whole issue once, Mookie decided he didn't like doing it that way and reverted it
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Jun 11, 2021 12:45
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Man I feel sorry for Garth, though it took him a long time to give up partnering with Mookie.
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How much do you want to bet that the 'plot' of this chapter is that Snout lost his library card somewhere?
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Drashin posted:How much do you want to bet that the 'plot' of this chapter is that Snout lost his library card somewhere? The library brochure clearly says all union library cards are accepted. Obviously, this means that it's a highly exclusive library that you can only access if you have a library card, and that the library will not issue new cards. This becomes a problem when we discover that Bad Orc Man stole Snout's library card to gain access to this coveted and exclusive... library.
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Jun 11, 2021 14:41
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Because clearly what this comic needs is a riveting plot about how Snout is unable to borrow books from a public library. Surely there's no one around him who can use their card to borrow the books Snout needs, none at all.
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You can't fool me bucko, nothing loving happened this week either. The plot's got no idea where it needs to go and is just spinning its wheels until one or both of us dies.
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Honestly, at this point I'd be impressed if by the time Snout actually makes it to the library (roughly three to four weeks, two of which are walking panels) Mookie can remember that Snout gave his library card to whoever and never got it back.
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Jun 11, 2021 15:51
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How long until Scrunt trades his necromantic golem momwife to Orc Mookie?
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So Snout's platonic (?) relationship with a necromanic zombie he met less than a week (?) ago reminds Arudak of his dead wife uh, ok Why? Is it because she is also dead? Also who is Snout's actual romantic love interest supposed to be? Ink Witch or Corpsemommy? The comic keeps vacillating between the two. Again, it could be interesting to depict a poly relationship, but Mookie hasn't indicated that's what he's going for. In fact I can't tell at all what he's going for. Also also, I'm still flabbergasted that Snout has 2 nice new outfits, one of which already has his treasured "HELO I AM BROKEN" patch, and yet he's going back to his lovely, smelly overalls. At least Corposemommy is FINALLY dressed this time. Also also also, what the gently caress was the point of Snout's "clearing his head" montage? He didn't actually DO any introspection. He just kind of went for a walk and when he came back people were nice to him and had ejected the bad man from the story for being slightly rude to him. Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Jun 11, 2021 |
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Cloacamazing! posted:Honestly, at this point I'd be impressed if by the time Snout actually makes it to the library (roughly three to four weeks, two of which are walking panels) Mookie can remember that Snout gave his library card to whoever and never got it back. Snout didn't give his library card. Thelonius snatched it from Snout and did a magic trick to switch it to his calling card, which was his only contribution during that entire sequence. Mookie never puts any thought into what he writes so I doubt he knows how racist it was to create a second POC character and have the only notable thing they did was steal from Snout. Rotten Red Rod posted:So Snout's platonic (?) relationship with a necromanic zombie he met less than a week (?) ago reminds Arudak of his dead wife You got to love how after having Snout reunite with his mommies, Mookie has Arudak pining over his dead wife to reinforce the heterosexualness of it all. Gotta stamp out any possibility that Arudak might also be interested in Snout or whatever. Rotten Red Rod posted:Also also also, what the gently caress was the point of Snout's "clearing his head" montage? He didn't actually DO any introspection. He just kind of went for a walk and when he came back people were nice to him and had ejected the bad man from the story for being slightly rude to him. In the hands of a better writer, Snout would've taken the opportunity of clearing his head to go to the library and research about Dominic and lucid dreaming. If he can't do anything to help Corpsemomwife then he can at least feel productive by furthering his research.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Also also also, what the gently caress was the point of Snout's "clearing his head" montage? He didn't actually DO any introspection. He just kind of went for a walk and when he came back people were nice to him and had ejected the bad man from the story for being slightly rude to him. Introspection is for people who aren't already the best and smartest at everything and might have done some things wrong. We are supposed to feel sad as the very good boy who has done nothing wrong is feeling sad because a person he barely knows was mean to him.
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