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Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

I'm so excited for this :allears:

Especially to see how deafness will definitely be treated in a tasteful and respectful manner, not to mention any prejudice against the, uh, "mongrelman" protagonist.

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Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Glad he included the big DEAF tag on that panel, I almost forgot!

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Toriyama is an important counterexample to Tezuka, who worked himself to death and set an impossible standard for manga artists. Of course, not everyone can pull it off, you have to have some talent to start with.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

I just found out this is back.
We are all dead, and this is Hell.

So who’s down for a thread re-read of the original opus?

Let's wait for this new trainwreck to finish before going back to admiring the smoldering ashes of the old dumpster fire.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

I guess without this recap page we wouldn't have known that Snout still wanted to solve the Mystery of Dominic Deegan.

Probably because it makes no sense and isn't connected at all to the more pressing and dramatic mysteries involving a space ship blowing up his house and kidnapping the person he rescued!

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

She looks like a female Delgo.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

evilmiera posted:

Ok it may be that I'm dumb, and suffering a hangover, and I haven't gone out to exercise in like a week and my brain is out of oxygen, but...

What the gently caress is going on in this comic?

Snout rescued the Ink Witch, and then her ship came to rescue her and incidentally blew up his house. Then, the Ink Witch pretended to be an enchanted piece of paper and asked Snout to help gather the pages of a mysterious book about Dominic Deegan. Snout did so, only to have it stolen by the Mean Orc. Snout and the Ink Witch finally met up and traveled to Mongreltown, where they sought out more books about Dominic Deegan. They were directed to a pornography store, which turned out to have the book they were looking for. They earn the money doing some kinda fortunetelling act, and go back the next day to buy the book, only to see that the Mean Orc has beat them to it! The Ink Witch and the Mean Orc start arguing, but Snout can't tell what they're arguing about because he's deaf. He realizes that there is a connection between the book the Mean Orc has and the mysterious lucid dreams he's been having: a symbol resembling a poorly-drawn cube. He tells the Ink Witch and Mean Orc to stop fighting so they can all work together to figure it out.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Wait, really!?

He had the villain of the first arc keep showing up, with a deep connection to the backstory of the protagonist, but then just... left her in jail forever? No jailbreak? No secret plan? Her whole purpose was just demonstrating the wrong thing that we're not supposed to think, and get owned over and over?

Like drat I knew Mookie was a bad writer, but that is really impressively awful.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

It really is loving breathtaking how completely he's outdone Dominic Deegan with this.
Like I said - and I stand by that I was right at the time - that Dominic Deegan was the nadir of human creative endeavor, but this is just some next level poo poo. Over a year. How many pages and words and images and he's said literally nothing.

What is the plot of this comic? At least in Dominic Deegan things *happened*. This isn't sound and fury signifying nothing, it's silence and boredom signifying nothing.

Seeing Star Power has really reminded me of how his wheelhouse is really just exposition. Just having characters spout tons and tons of words, all the time. So like, on the one hand, it's very insightful for him to realize that and challenge himself with writing a comic without so much dialog. And he's doing it! Compared to Deegan and Star Power, this series is very light on words, cheats with the Ink Witch aside.

But also, he is definitely failing that challenge he set for himself. This is way less compelling than even his old, bad comic was. The dude is just not a visual storyteller, without his crutch he is just crawling painfully across the floor, and it is torture to watch.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Yeah, I'd say the "ACTUALLY, lawful good being right and the military/cops solving everything is subverting expectations" speaks to him being bitter over something. Like he just wanted to play his cool lawful good paladin and people kept messing with him, trying to force him to make hard choices or pointing out how it could be interpreted to support stuff that he, Mookie, found abhorrent.

I keep thinking about the "actually, it's good and subverts expectations that the military swoops in and solves all the problems perfectly at the end of every chapter" thing. It's just such an absolutely baffling way of thinking about it. Like, just the least fun way of being self-indulgent imaginable.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

rudecyrus posted:

How long until Mookie gives up on Legacy

I'd be surprised if it survives this cabin interlude.

If he had any plan for the main plot (doubtful), he'll have forgotten it by then.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Rotten Red Rod posted:

It's funny how he thinks he's not good at color when the issue is that he's not good at any art.

And he's still just winging it now. He won't put in the effort and practice to actually learn the fundamentals. If you wanted to learn how to draw, there's like a billion resources out there for you. I know someone who currently leads free art classes/practice sessions on an animation Discord.

The fun part is that when he does try something new, which happens a few times throughout DD, it goes totally fine. Like he'll experiment with perspective or drawing people a different way, and he's totally capable of doing it, but then he just goes back to doing the same old poo poo like a week later. His inability to improve is entirely down to a lack of effort and interest.

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Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Zore posted:

Still one of the greatest tweet meltdowns of all time

https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/376424398023962624

Especially since the reason boils down to 'Uh she breathes through her skin so if she wears too much she suffocates. Yes, this is a perfectly reasonable and totally possible thing'

"You will feel bad when you hear the made up reason I contrived for why this female character has to wear fetish gear all the time" is really all-time stuff. Especially since The End in MGS3 had the exact same thing going on and he didn't have to run around in a speedo, for some reason.

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