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Twelve by Pies posted:Eh I don't know about that, most anime series that are comparable to DD have the protagonist go through training arcs and work hard to become stronger, sometimes they're given a bullshit magic power from nowhere but not usually. Like sure, Goku reached Super Saiyan just because he was mad enough to do it, but later on when it isn't strong enough to defeat Cell, he has to train for a year in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber to get stronger. While Dragon Ball is similar in terms of intended demo being a shonen, structurally, DD has little resemblance to it. As touched on in the original threads, DD is modeled more explicitly after and lifts the basics of specific arcs from shows like "Slayers." I haven't seen it myself, but from skimming the wiki page, you can see the source of many setting elements I had assumed came from final fantasy. Mookie just copies the art from cheap anime, not the writing. If he did, like pretty much any change, it would probably make the comic less terrible.
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skeleton warrior posted:The completely different line weights between the foreground and the background are really throwing me, like it’s two separate drawings with the foreground hastily c&ped over a background Yep. He didn't add a foreground, just didn't draw some weeds. This is also why the most recent comic has part of a black border on the right for that panel but not the left: 
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Bismuth posted:I really appreciate that mookie cant figure out how to really emote with snout's face at all, he always just looks vaguely concerned/confused. Also he really does look like hes hovering over the ground in a squat An inevitable side effect as Mookie is copying Snout and other elements from old comics more and more often. I cannot get over how Mookie has drawn Snout making GBS threads in a field and seems oblivious to this either. The body doesn't even seem recycled. Could he really not find a reference photo of someone sitting on a hill? That decolorized background also looks like poo poo. It's like an old video game when they use a photograph as a painting or something but it's all 16 bit looking. It looks like a big field with bales of hay in it.
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May 26, 2021 10:51
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Libra posted:He did roleplay and the other players hated his character, a proto Dominic Deegan. So they kicked him out and Mookie started a comic. Rotten Red Rod posted:His patreon seems to have stalled out and hit its ceiling at 1.2k/mo, which isn't really livable for a family... But knowing how little effort he puts into the comic, it's easily possible he has a day job too (if he's even the main breadwinner, which I'm not going to try and dive into). Mookie does not to my knowledge have a day job. Without getting into detail, we know from the blog Mrs. Mookie is indeed the sole breadwinner in their household. He does not. As he discussed in the old days of the blog, like many similar individuals such as J.F. Bibeau, his spiritual twin, going to cons would at best be a break even venture for him and would more often be a loss of a few hundred bucks with travel, accommodation, food, etc. He only ever went to stroke his ego by doing the "writing memorable heroes and villains" panel and such. Even at the height of his popularity it was never a serious money maker. I can't imagine that he's suddenly making more from his output now. Zereth posted:I believe he is on record as like, wanting to be surprised at where the story goes. So he doesn't plan ahead.
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I hate this comic. In addition to the points you've made, that final comic is extra hilarious. Due to Mookie's refusal to vary from his 2x4 grid of tiny boxes for weekday strips and inexplicable decision to stand Melna in front of an identical vertically striped door to the one in Dominic's house, the reader has this momentary hiccup thinking she has stepped into the scene to scold Dominic. We then realize apparently we've skipped to later that morning while Luna is at work which still doesn't really work because Melna is still reacting to Dominic's speech balloon in panel 2. I think it's already come up in the thread, but drawing wireframes over the harem of partially disarticulated Luna clones is extremely funny.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Dominic has the power to make sure everyone who takes his class comes away from it having learned the absolute most they possibly could. He could use his second sight to present information in a way that his students would best be able to absorb it. With so few (presumably) high-level students, he has absolutely no reason not to present them with individualized learning plans. You can't tell because Mookie can't draw more than one body type. (He can't draw that one body type either, but that's another problem)
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May 29, 2021 15:43
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Zerilan posted:Definitely not looking forward to the reread reaching Facebath era Greg. Zerilan posted:I know they fight a bit over Greg's personality/music taste change, but not sure if she dumps him. The main person who gets dumped in the comic is Jayden, who pretty much exists to suffer whenever the plot glances in her direction. Mors Rattus posted:Did Greg get dumped before Facebath or did Pam just stop existing?
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Zerilan posted:Greg is totally a smug dick towards Pam in that arc but it's kind of a backseat thing iirc. Main things I remember from that arc is Greg using having seen people around him get mutilated as points towards his metal cred, Mookie still loving "X from above" "jokes" as much as the LICD guy does, and his David Willis level prudishness towards any sort of drunken revelry. I'm sure you're right. I just haven't read that arc in a very long time. Yeah, that's all I meant. Twelve by Pies posted:Remember how Jayden took a vow of silence or something and hadn't spoken for ages and then when she was about to say something sweet and meaningful after Dominic and Luna got married Greg interrupted her so he could be "metal"?
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Yeah, it's a good example of current-gen sues versus those from an earlier generation. Dominic may have been a smug rear end in a top hat all the time, but at least he was a powerful omniscient wizard. You can see in the abstract why Mookie would want to be a character like this. Characters like Snout, a fairly textbook anti-sue (wait people called Dominic a sue because he was powerful? Snout will be totally useless!) is still a sue because while Mookie has dispensed with all theoretically enviable qualities like being smart and rich and being able to shoot lasers out of his eyes, everyone and everything in the whole universe still revolves around Snout and exists solely to serve him either by providing naked cuddles or theoretically extracting sympathy from the reader when they make mildly critical comments towards him.
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Snout saw beardy's mean note about him, went into the field for a poo poo, wandered through the void all night, then came back at sunrise while stealthily avoiding everyone in the tower despite being deaf so he couldn't hear them coming if they weren't in his immediate eyeline, then went to bed and Arudak just somehow knew he'd returned and passed him a note. What was the point of him leaving at all? Just have Arudak pass him a note as soon as he runs off crying. I can't get over how much time Snout spends sleeping. It's insane.
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Kavak posted:Is it touching the poop to make someone go back to when the latest mopeathon started and see if Mookie got any particularly hateful tweets, mild criticism, or neutral comments? No. Mookie blocks and reports anything but fawning praise and even that's been very thin on the ground since Legacy started. The last time someone was the slightest bit critical of him was far before Snout's latest pity jerkoff session started. While this is probably the ultimate explanation, it could also just be Mookie repeating himself in a comic because he hasn't thought of anything new rather than miss or skip an update until he can think of something interesting to put in the comic. Mutant Headcrab posted:What color is Snout? Does he have a normal human skin tone or does he have some kind of fantasy color? Are his "scales" the same color as the rest of him? We don't explicitly know the answer to this question since Mookie has grown too lazy to color even once a week and has alienated anyone willing to do paid art or fanart of his lovely characters, but assuming he is roughly similar in coloring to Bort, he would be a muted olive drab green and have colorful patches of scales in bright red and blue. And yet nothing has happened. EDIT: oriongates posted:They haven't even bothered to translate the note he handed snout, the one that was, presumably, actually insulting. Because the stuff Snout actually read was not worth this much moping. It was definitely rude...but none of it was actually insulting: it was just a list of the supernatural or significant abilities that snout doesn't have...that most people don't have, for that matter. All beard-orc actually said was "Snout has no superhuman abilities, cannot dig underground, cannot use magic and cannot fly." This is true of almost everyone! It was phrased in a condescending manner but none of it is actually claiming that Snout is deficient in any way. He didn't claim that snout was stupid, or clumsy or weak...he didn't even harp on Snout's actual disabilities. I believe when he snuck a peek at beardy's journal he was in fact reading the same text as the note he handed Snout because he just slotted it back into his notebook and/or had his scribe write that stuff down. But now that he can read his language, so can we the audience. I know in a vacuum what I'm saying is stupid and doesn't make sense, but that's why I think it's the most probably explanation here. Invisible Clergy fucked around with this message at 08:37 on Jun 4, 2021 |
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You're right. I remembered the order of events wrong and didn't want to go back and check because this comic is boring. Good catch.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Why is everyone treating him like a hero when he didn't do anything Because he's Mookie. Arudak's contextually inappropriate bedroom eyes have reappeared, I see.
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oriongates posted:The thing on Snout's plate looks disturbingly like his own tail. What do you think it's supposed to be? In a vacuum, I'd say it's a grilled sausage, but Snout, being Mookie, is vegan so that's obviously impossible. It looks like an actual turd. Alongside a dinner roll and some peas with a glass of milk. Normal breakfast food. It looks like the plate of food Jon Arbuckle is always pictured with: 4 slices of meat loaf, a scoop of mashed potatoes with butter, and peas. 
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Twelve by Pies posted:Nielen's plan is incredibly dumb, "I just happened to be hiding near your significant other with a magical recording device in my hand when they said something damning." At least in Homer Badman when Groundskeeper Willie just happened to be hiding in the bushes recording Homer it was done as a joke. I don't think it's explored any further. Given Mookie's misogyny, that's a plausible motivation. It could also be payback for how badly Runcible treats him regularly throwing fireballs at him and such. Unsurprisingly, there is no HR department at Miranda's school.
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Happy Landfill posted:How many times does she have to give him that...look? Eugh, this comic is so creepy. Why does everyone in Snout's harem have to look at him in such a sexual way? To protect myself, i'm going to pretend Snout cut a rancid fart he doesn't know makes any noise due to his deafness between panel 1 and 2 to explain inkwich's face in panels 2 and 3. As to the content this is... breathtaking. There's not getting to the fireworks factory and then there's starting in the fireworks factory and instead of shooting fireworks at each other, you gear up to go to a different fireworks factory.
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Libra posted:There is absolutely no way it's been two years. It's been two years since the Legacy of Dominic Deegan [...]
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Nighthand posted:The library brochure clearly says all union library cards are accepted. Obviously, this means that it's a highly exclusive library that you can only access if you have a library card, and that the library will not issue new cards. This becomes a problem when we discover that Bad Orc Man stole Snout's library card to gain access to this coveted and exclusive... library. He will then immediately just fill out the form and get a union library card with no difficulty, making the whole exercise pointless. Zereth posted:I don't think I've ever been to a library that checked your card at any time other than when you were checking out books. So like, Snout can just go read the book at the library. "Hey there Snout. Snout and about. In and Snout. Snouterator. Makin' copies. My main mongrelman."
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Billy Gnosis posted:This explains so much about this comic never changing Rotten Red Rod posted:METAL FANS LIKE THEIR MUSIC STALE AND REPETITIVE. HOW COULD YOU NOT KNOW THIS. YOU CRETIN. YOU ABSOLUTE IMBECILE. Lol, where did he even find a music review, much less a review of a whole album? Even if you're a 40+ year old man like Mookie who pays for music, who buys whole albums? Do they even make whole albums anymore? I thought musicians just released singles every so often because that's how people have been buying stuff for the last 20 years.
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Well, at least we bypassed two weeks of him walking there.
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GlyphGryph posted:Are there any vegetarians in the comic? Does mookie even know "ethical frameworks around food consumption" are things that exist? Beelzebufo posted:Hold on for the next arc. Twelve by Pies posted:Anyway the point is I don't understand the need for "sentient vegetables creatures" because having tusks doesn't imply meat eating. If it were any other comic I'd assume we're supposed to view that guy as an idiot for thinking big tusks are the same as fangs and that they're used to hunt prey, but this is Mookie and I genuinely can't think of any other reason why he'd have sentient vegetable creatures except if he genuinely thinks that tusks are meant for eating meat. 1 Mookie wants to show his stock noble savage orcs as tough, ferocious warriors. 2 Mookie also wants them to never be portrayed as the aggressors in a conflict; just the victims of hate crimes from the racist humans 3 Mookie also does not want to show them feuding amongst themselves for status 4 Mookie has arbitrarily decided they are obligate herbivores though he calls them "vegetarians" half the time because he's too stupid to know what words mean How can he square this circle? Simply have the orcs hunt and kill animals that are made of plant matter. Done. quote:I know orcs are meant to be Native American stereotypes but even those stereotypes had stuff like "The Native Americans find nature sacred and so use every part of the buffalo to ensure nothing is wasted," like they aren't stereotyped as vegetarians" so I can't figure out why he'd be opposed to orcs hunting meat. Unless it's some sort of "But these orcs are so gentle and kind that they can't even hunt animals because they're so bleeding heart" but then having them hunt sentient plant creatures completely destroys that so that can't be it either! Beelzebufo posted:
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Trapezium Dave posted:Halflings in original Deegan live in the tourist trap of Olde Tucklebrook Island. As for the answer to "is location X anywhere near location Y", best of luck figuring that out. I don't think there ever was a map of the Deeganverse. Yeah they just appear once in 5-10 strips during the year-long honeymoon arc. Their racial traits are "don't call me short," being craft beer snobs and having huge tits. There is no map of Deeganland.
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amigolupus posted:It's similar to how Bee manhandled Snout to stop him from running toward the breakfast spread, or Daxethar flicking Snout's ears to get his attention. There are better ways to get a deaf person's attention, but Mookie chooses the ones that treat Snout in an ableist manner instead. Wait, if this orkling isn't Veth or Bee, who is it? Some third guy who lives in the town where the library is? Is Daxethar sending word through him? How'd he know where Snout would be? Rotten Red Rod posted:I mean that's pretty much it. It's a very posable spiderman figurine that got really popular a few years ago with comic artists and animators because it works better than the wooden mannequins for their purposes. I don't know if that exact model is still made, but you can find them on eBay and such.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:
Jar Jar!
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:The thing to remember is that Mookie isn't cargo culting Tolkien or even Dungeons and Dragons. He's cargo culting, like, Final Fantasy and Slayers and Record of Lodoss War and poo poo. If he has consumed those products or works like those, he has not talked about it in the blog while writing oldgan or newgan. Since he used the blog to talk about such minor inanities as what he was having for lunch that day or providing a bulleted pull list of the comics he was reading every Wednesday, I doubt he's read them.
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Why does Mookie hide the author's first name? Does he think we forgot who Jacob was? Or is it a fakeout and it's a descendant of the Deegans who isn't Jacob. I wonder if Jacob's still alive 200 years later. He could be since he's a necromancer.
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Acibek's principle is a metamagic feat.
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YF-23 posted:RIght, this chapter is called... The Library Card, right? We still haven't seen the card get any play in this breakneck narrative. I mean Snout already has a library card. He gave it to Thelonious, but Mookie forgot about that and it doesn't look like Snout needed to present it to get that big pile of books. I can't wait for the next arc of oldgan. It's definitely one of the worst.
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It's worse than I remembered. The misogyny stands on its own, but another somewhat prominent aspect that is lost in the shuffle of greater issues is that stupid mask. What is the point of Siegfried wearing a mask that covers his whole face (and he's wearing different clothes and isn't speaking) if everyone who he encounters "somehow knows" that it's him? I know metatextually it's for Mookie to dehumanize Siegfried for the crime of being a filthy JOCK/sexhaver but there is no useful in-story reason for this. There's no fakeout where the mask gets ripped off and it's 3 short demons standing on each others' shoulders or anything, so it's just pointless and dumb.
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BSS:Batman's Scrappy Sidekick > Dominic Deegan: He doesn't want nuance.
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So Mookie just forgot Snout doesn't have his library card. I don't know why I expected anything different.
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a cartoon duck posted:wasn't it even worse and snout's mom's lover pushed her out a window or something stupid like that? but yes, in dominic deegan a man who loves murdering women is more deserving of redemption than a woman who cheated on her boyfriend once Stunt's mother fled from her abusive husband (who practices some more conservative religion to make Luanians look better. It was never mentioned prior to this and is never mentioned again) to the arms of her lover Lizzie. Stunt caught them sitting together on the bed with four feet on the ground fully clothed, his misogyny went into maximum overdrive and he came at Lizzie with a knife but slipped on a banana peel and fatally stabbed his mother in the tits which inflated and gushed blood everywhere. She hung on long enough to verbally say she didn't blame him and none of this was his fault (of course) and then perished. I think Stunt went out the window to escape before the dad came back, but I don't remember anyone being thrown out a window. We'll see soon enough though since I think we finish this arc, then it's Nimmel House, and then Eldariat to Die. . Rotten Red Rod posted:Now the wild edge library being in the middle of nowhere makes even less sense, even as a gag. Why wouldn't it be at Mongreltown? Because Mookie didn't make up Mongreltown til later. Invisible Clergy fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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Zerilan posted:Eldariat To Die is a long long way away. It's chapter 37, we're currently in chapter 20, and some of those chapters are stupidly long. Maltak was an entire year. My mistake. I didn't check because I like to be surprised. MiracleFlare posted:People more eloquent than me have already commented on this page so all I can say is That definitely sounds right. I think he writes her a letter once he retires from the comic to be a park ranger. We'll see eventually.
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Breetai posted:Wasn't the Big Bad Unknowable Horror at the end of the original DD basically killed by a bad-guy/shades-of-grey character in what would in any other story be essentially a redemptive self-sacrifice and then from the panel after he dies to the end nothing is mentioned of him again? Or am I grossly misremembering? No, that's exactly what happens. Did anyone notice there's a new blog post? It's mostly pleasantries, but the following stands out: Mookie posted:"[...] I’m not done yet. In fact, I feel like The Legacy is only really just getting started! The last two years have been focused on establishing Snout as a new protagonist, and dropping hints about the way the world has changed since the Oracle for Hire years. Now that you’re all more familiar with Snout, the Ink Witch, and Arudak, I feel like it’s time to really get into the mystery of Dominic’s legacy. I’m excited to show you what Snout has yet to discover." Reading this, I feel like I'm watching some lovely fantasy adventure show and they just finished beating a tough monster, then the camera pans back and reveals it was the baby one and its mother is here to kick the poo poo out of them. What bullshit is "establishing Snout." As FuegoFish said about a different lovely comic, if you don't mention anything that has happened in the comic, his physical appearance, or that he is deaf, you can't say poo poo about Snout. Invisible Clergy fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Jul 13, 2021 |
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TheHan posted:I think this is the first I’m hearing that Pam became queen after the Deegan Coup. I wonder how that looked to random citizens who, from their perspective, saw their democratically elected monarch violently toppled by a family of Ubermages who proceeded to place all their closest friends and family into positions of power. I'm sure that they said it was a real good thing Dominic did and acted like they thought it too, because if he suspected otherwise, he would send them to the cornfield like he did with their beloved King Dave. Twelve by Pies posted:I was around for the end of Deegan and I only remember it vaguely, it'll be a while before we get to it in the retrospect. I do remember a bunch of characters flying at King Dave's castle for a huge anime style final battle, I don't know if Dominic did a mass SEE THE TRUTH on the townspeople, or if King Dave just loudly announced his evil villain status because he thought he was far too powerful to be stopped, or if the Beast just appeared and showed the townspeople that their king was serviing an evil spaghetti eyeball. As usual, you're putting more thought into it than Mookie did. I don't think Callanian public reaction to their democratically elected absolute monarch being assassinated was addressed at all. Best as I can recall, Dominic and co go to Dave's castle, they fight, Celesto does all the work of actually wearing Dave down so he's weakened enough to kill, dies so Dominic can take all the credit, and Dominic cherry taps him with see the truth and also kills the Beast somehow. Them installing Pam as a puppet dictator is new information, though. That said, it's perfectly in character for the Deegans to continue their nepotism and put a small-town mayor in charge of running the entire kingdom of Callan. I wonder if they bothered with a democratic election or ever allowed one again. I wonder who's ruling Callan now.
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Zerilan posted:Was there even a real reason given why he was even doing the poo poo he did with the spaghetti monster? Dave was already the most powerful mage in existence on top of being a king. He was literally powerful enough that he had the other 5 most powerful mages simultaneously under mind controlling spells for decades. Roman Reigns posted:So uh what happened to ink witch and corpsemom?
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Captain Oblivious posted:His goal iirc was that there was a whole Sozin's Comet thing going on where magic ebbs and flows and only one race has the lions share of magical power at a time. The cycle was supposed to flow from Callan/Humans to Maltak/The Orcs next, King Dave was a human supremacist who believed that by working with the Beast he could stop the cycle from...cycling, basically. Human supremacy forever. Oh, yeah, now that you mention it, that sounds right. I think his plan to genocide the orcs was based on the idea that if there were no orcs left, the magic boost would "skip" their turn and cycle back to humans.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:I meant Bumper or Stunt - whichever it was - when they have their ~WILD EDGE~ arc. If I'm not misremembering there's no direct Deegan involvement in that one. That was Stunt who became a park ranger fighting filthy jock poachers in the mild edge, around the point of the eldariat to die arc. That's about as close to independence from Dominic as any of the secondary Mookies ever get, and it still ends with him giving the magic relic he finds at the end of the adventure to Dominic for safekeeping because... well because he's the prime Mookie, even though it's a holy relic for a church Jayden is a high ranking member in.
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