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I was rolling my eyes at the jokes people were making about Orklings being a servant race, but it's starting to look like they are just little Dobbies, aren't they?
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2021 16:38 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 15:49 |
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Mookie really needs to buy one of those wooden artist mannequins, or even one of the 18" Spiderman figures that a lot of comic artists use for anatomy reference. And then he needs to practice drawing it and other life drawings. And then practice that again. And again. And again. And again. Instead, we're either seeing his direct traces, or freehand first attempts.
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2021 22:15 |
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Dalris Othaine posted:I suddenly need to know more about this. I mean that's pretty much it. It's a very posable spiderman figurine that got really popular a few years ago with comic artists and animators because it works better than the wooden mannequins for their purposes. I don't know if that exact model is still made, but you can find them on eBay and such. I think it's this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/SpiderMan-...4.m46890.l49286 Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Jun 26, 2021 |
# ¿ Jun 26, 2021 02:11 |
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Hell, same
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2021 19:21 |
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It's all going accord to kesma*. *Kesma means city!
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2021 10:58 |
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Beelzebufo posted:So yes, Greg's big idea is to set himself up as a Clark Kent/Peter Parker altar ego to his magic self. I mean this right down to being a reporter. To anyone who hasn't experienced all of this arc yet, you can see why people started to get annoyed. The degree to which Mookie was telegraphing his intentions, and the stupid contrivances he was introducing to get the plot to twist in that direction, were really out of place in the setting. Yeah, I've been looking through the Keenspot forums from around this time, and you're not kidding. That said, it's mostly just a few scattered dissenters who pop up and are told by most to calm down. Until July 18, 2007. Then everyone's mad.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2021 16:58 |
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:Jazzhands? Nah, that was a while ago. July 18 is the premier of Supergreg.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2021 17:08 |
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Yeah if he leaned lightly into the superhero thing it might be ok. Like superheroes heavily through a fantasy lens with some wink and nudge references. He... Does not do that.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2021 17:27 |
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Yeah, the Keenspot forums are pretty amazing. The transition from "a few scattered dissenters" to "everyone here is hatereading" seems to fully happen by 2008. All their complaints are jarringly similar to ours, too.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2021 21:42 |
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SubG posted:Like for awhile I thought the gimmick was supposed to be that it (and the rest of her outfit) was a magical construct of ink and therefore in constant flux--which could be a cool gimmick...Mookie could have a character emoting with their outfit, kinda like Roberta Gregory's Midge emoting with her boobs--instead of just a physical article whose exact dimensions and properties remain a mystery to the artist: It WAS - the early concept sketches of her (which were all VERY horny) showed her as essentially an ink Bayonetta with, and I quote Mookie, "an aversion to clothes". Clearly he changed his mind, probably midway through the first arc, before Snout finally met her in person. I think now they're just clothes, unless he's saving that up for some big reveal... But knowing Mookie, he can't help revealing a plot element the very week he thinks it up, so I doubt it.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2021 21:57 |
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Ah, yes, wearing a different shirt and trying different foods, the hallmarks of a true noncomformist
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2021 04:27 |
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At least the poem isn't as cringey as the 2nd Star Power holiday special.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2021 16:45 |
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Zerilan posted:Nothing beats him actually trying to write out the songs for the in-universe greatest composer. Codependent Poster posted:Why does everyone want to gently caress Snout?
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2021 17:41 |
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This poem made me more aware that Snout has an obsession with consuming the written word, but not with actually creating anything besides his lame journal. When this comic started, I expected it to be about Dominic's legacy (whatever that means) being rediscovered, and Snout would be the scribe and evangelist for it... But it's nothing of the kind. He's just looking for the book(s) that have all the information he needs, and the only issue seems to be that those books are hard to find, possibly being horded by Bad Ink Witch. Intentional or not, so far, it's a story about a consumer, not a creator. Which is... Not very compelling.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2021 19:10 |
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7/18/07 Are you loving kidding me?? by NevrMore on Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:14 pm posted:
by Warde on Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:19 pm posted:
by Taylon on Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:28 pm posted:
by Necris Omega on Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:29 pm posted:
by legendary on Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:31 pm posted:
by Helleshin on Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:34 pm posted:
by Janika on Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:46 pm posted:
by Silvsilvchan on Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:47 pm posted:
by NevrMore on Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:48 pm posted:
by Taylon on Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:52 pm posted:You know, for the longest time I was supporting the comic. I still do. I've met Mookie in person on numerous occasions at Conventions, as some people here might have as well. Had a nice twenty minute discussion and what not almost every time. Also expressing how much I do enjoy reading the comic and his works. But... by Merry on Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:59 pm posted:
by NW on Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:02 am posted:
by Thy Brilliance on Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:03 am posted:
by Hinoarashi on Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:14 am posted:
That's all from page 1 of 10.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2021 22:36 |
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Another note, after reading through all 10 pages of the thread (don't bother by the way, it becomes a banal slapfight by page 3 or so), I think Mookie might have come up with the " Edit: lol I actually legitimately typed Mookie instead of Dominic by accident, I'm leaving that in
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2021 02:19 |
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lol @ the text on that help desk I have no idea what this poem might mean or who J. Deegan might be but some of the finer Deegan scholars can probably figure it out.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2021 06:57 |
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I'm still stuck on the sequence of events here. So let me get this straight: - Snout and co. go to the library (and apparently all ditch Snout to go... Do something else?). - Veth is running late, and sends a messenger to tell Snout. - Veth shows up, gives Snout a book, and then just also straight up leaves immediately. - Veth inserted a note partway through that book he assumed Snout would find, instead of, you know, just pointing out the page he wanted him to see before ditching him. Did I get all that right? It honestly feels like these people are loving with Snout rather than helping him.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2021 16:05 |
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But why tell him you're running late if all you're doing is giving him a book? Why slip a note in that book he might not find about reading a page instead of showing him that page before you take off? Actually, why not slip the note in page 27 and have it say "read the poem on this page"? I know it's a case of "we're thinking about this more than Mookie did," but, MAN it's confusing. Also, page 27 huh? Looks like Mookie drew that book only like ~40 pages long.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2021 16:20 |
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DamnitGannet posted:Remember the other ink witch and the other dude with her? Remember how they were bad guys who kidnapped ink witch? I don’t think Mookie does. Now the much more important conflict is that one guy was rude to Snout. And it was cleared up by someone telling him to leave, off screen.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2021 19:26 |
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Yeah it's pretty amazing. There were two other forums (which are a pain in the rear end to navigate due to only existing on the Wayback Machine, so I can't extract any content from them) and they all seemed to have turned against Mookie around the same time.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2021 20:30 |
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Quite a few of them mentioned the rape thing as well as the first example of the comic jumping the shark. Maybe I'll go back and find the forum responses from that time too. But yeah, the beginning of the end of fan good will was this storyline, not that one, for whatever reason. Riot Bus posted:Though, like I've seen a few mention in the Keenspot forums, I think that DD's update frequency had a lot of people hanging on for much longer than they might have otherwise. A webcomic updating daily had a way of keeping people around regardless of what went on. I certainly read Sluggy Freelance for a LOT longer than I really should have considering how banal it was because it was my first webcomic. Once there were much better alternatives I realize that I - gasp - don't HAVE to read it. Same thing with the Goosebumps series. I read them because I was a voracious reader as a kid, and there were a lot of them to read, but I eventually realized there was a lot better stuff out there. Now, coming to today, as a 37 year old, I don't read ANY books! Mission succeeded! Beelzebufo posted:What is the nature of the relationship: Mookie provides us no clues as to what the context of that relationship is, or what sort of trouble Veth could get into for talking to Snout, which is what was implied could happen with the clandestine note. What are the stakes for Veth? What are his goals? Does he like Daxethar but finds his professor's manners embarrasing, or is there fear/resentment/hatred there? Yeah the fact that the orc mage dude (sorry I CANNOT remember these names) apparently kicked Dax out for being a dick to Snout is never referenced. Apparently it's just ok for Veth to still interact with him? Why is none of this explored? Why did him getting kicked out happen offscreen, without any of us seeing the aftermath? IDGI. Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Jul 2, 2021 |
# ¿ Jul 2, 2021 21:21 |
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Bismuth posted:To be fair to people back then (lol) The stonewater thing wasnt...that out of the ordinary for webmedia at the time was it? I remember being a girl online back then it was sort of hard to find any webcomics that appealed to me because they were a bit dominated by the 2000s gamer boy demographic so the market was pretty saturated in sexism, racism, homophobia, etc. Not defending mookie for doing it, but I can see how readers may not be that shocked by it considering the "market" Ok I just looked back at the Keenspot forums for 1/25/2006 (the infamous strip), and... You don't need to be fair to them. The responses of the people in the forum are absolutely disgusting. Everyone thinks Stonewater is blameless. Some were actually making jokes about how long orcs last in bed. Virtually none were calling out Mookie for crafting such a bizarre, exploitative scenario all for the purposes of making a "heroic rapist". I think maybe the negative reaction came later after others processed the story alongside the constant backdrop of monkeycheese garbage.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2021 00:24 |
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Well Naruto withdrawal will do that to a man
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2021 14:17 |
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I know this is from a while ago but I couldn't resist
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2021 00:52 |
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Reading this actually makes Star Power quite refreshing - yes, every single character is dumb as rocks, but at least there's no puppet master foretelling and controlling every single plotline. Also, brb, gonna go tell my favorite restaurant to give some random person a free slice of cake and see how that goes
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2021 14:26 |
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Wait wait wait You're looking for Dominic Deegan, right? And you see a poem authored by a "J. Deegan" and some other guy. And you look up books written by THE OTHER GUY? Why? Edit: oh I see I was beaten lol Also, the information desk has a dossier on him with a photo and everything? lol And of course, bottom panel is a reuse of an older drawing of Snout, of course. I think the others might be too. Even the most undiscerning remaining Deegan fan has to start getting annoyed by the constant copy/paste. Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Jul 5, 2021 |
# ¿ Jul 5, 2021 06:20 |
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Bismuth posted:I'm still bewildered by ... Mookie ... comic
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2021 22:02 |
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I'm still not sure I'm familiar with any of them, or even what the mystery even is - they seem to have a pretty clear understanding of Dominic's effect on the world, and Luna's contribution to the Orcs seems pretty well documented.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2021 00:35 |
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Not sure why I'm doing this... I just noticed, why is his hair on the INSIDE of his arm in the 3rd image??? He reshades and redraws the details each time, so either he's tracing, or he's got basic outlines he copy/pastes and fills in. As the comic goes on, I wonder if he'll build up enough poses that he'll never have to totally redraw Snout again? Also I hate his shoulder boils more and more every day. Snout is such a loving gross character design, the only part of him that's marginally acceptable is his face. Why everyone wants to
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2021 00:50 |
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Yeah I was just looking at stuff in the last few pages.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2021 01:10 |
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Well last chapter was called The Language Barrier. This one isn't. So that problem is solved now. Edit: A mystery solved: There's no way this could have been conveyed in the comic, of course! Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Jul 6, 2021 |
# ¿ Jul 6, 2021 21:18 |
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Bismuth posted:Do you think he even asked if they had books about Dominic? What, you mean the one specific book that he came here to find? I'm sure he looked for it off-panel and Mookie will clarify on Twitter that they didn't have it.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2021 02:31 |
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Is Snout's special power that he has no responsibilities or material worries, so he can spend all day reading and researching? The concept of money came up precisely once, after which the ink witch solved that problem, but then he apparently was able to afford food and supplies just fine after she ditched him anyway. Edit: Mookie's twitter update for this page accidentally described how every conflict plays out in his comics: The hero encounters an obstacle... Or does he??? (No) Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Jul 7, 2021 |
# ¿ Jul 7, 2021 18:46 |
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Also a lot to unpack about this tweet: 1. Mookie still really likes and thinks about the aged-like-hot-cheese Spacaballs, enough to post a tweet about it in the year of our lord, 2021. 2. He apparently thinks Colonel Sanderz was an "unsung" comedic hero? I mean, it's been a while since I saw that movie, but it's not like I forgot that guy. He was there and he was the participant in many jokes, yes, and his timing was good because, you know, he's a professional actor and it was a comedic script written by professional writers. 3. He thinks the moment where the Colonel dodges the camera as it zooms in was "unnoticed if you're not looking for it". It was... A pretty obvious joke, my dude. I saw it and understood it right away and I last saw this movie when I was like 10.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2021 19:00 |
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super sweet best pal posted:Spaceballs is still pretty great. Codependent Poster posted:Spaceballs still rules. Ok, maybe I've overstated how badly it's aged, but I don't think it holds up nearly as well as Blazing Saddles or anything. I remember liking it a lot when I was a kid and not being very impressed when I watched it again as a teenager, and I think the cultural opinion of it dropped off in about the same way. Plus there was that inexplicable animated series in the 2000s...
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2021 21:51 |
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Beelzebufo posted:
And this begs the question of why Dominic didn't just use this illusion strategy on Snowsong and Gregory instead of putting people's lives at risk. Billy Gnosis posted:I know I posted this before, but by this point Mookie has been hired and fired as a burlesque emcee. The same person who wrote the above that feels so misogynistic and sex negative (also like it was written by a boy half his age) Not true, he was still doing it as late as 2014 - if you can handle the cringe, here's the (seemingly) only known recording of Mookie-as-MC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWG2csfQ77M I have no idea if it's true, but I assume he wrote the intro as well. It feels a lot like his bad Legacy poetry. Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Jul 8, 2021 |
# ¿ Jul 8, 2021 17:13 |
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Billy Gnosis posted:If I cared more, I'd track down when he complained about being ousted on the Deegan website. But that feels like way too webdoggy for my tastes. Maybe this is a different group that he was with later? That he also was ousted from? Dunno, it's possible.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2021 19:59 |
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What? This loving comic I swear to loving gently caress The past 2 weeks of updates have been a waste of our loving time And Dominic Deegan is still loving puppetmastering the entire universe from beyond the loving grave gently caress Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Jul 9, 2021 |
# ¿ Jul 9, 2021 05:23 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 15:49 |
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Codependent Poster posted:lol so Dominic definitely wrote that rule because he saw the future and has been puppet-mastering Snout all this time Maybe, but it's just as equally likely and stupid that this was just totally convenient dumb luck
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2021 05:40 |