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Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




i love how the new leader of the :airquote: Supernova Dragon Lords :airquote: has a goofy name... that isn't dragon themed.

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Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




I don't understand what's going on in the bit after Whatsherface falls through the floor? both purple and green hair elfs are the Starting-With-E style of elves?

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Heliotrope posted:

Honestly, I feel like "punishing" characters kind of contributes to that Lawful Good stereotype. Because if the Paladin's player decides to let something slide because enforcing the rules would be unfun for the group, DnD encouraged the DM to leap in and say "HA! You're not following your code! Lose all your powers!" And this case it was completely arbitrary and the "right" course of actions required knowledge the player didn't have. Does 5th edition still let the DM gently caress over the Paladin like this?
Well, 4e did away with that, making the change that once a Divine-power source character was invested with their powers, the god couldn't call backsies. Paladins kept their powers, period. If the god wanted you to stop using their powers, they had to send somebody to kill you.

So I assume 5e, the edition of "one step forward*, fifteen steps back", did away with it.

*frequently not even that

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




TheHan posted:

Y'now I bet being suddenly expected to write a script and hit a page count is hard as hell for Mookie, so he keeps spinning his wheels until he's burned enough pages to get to the good stuff. But...you could just use those pages to raise tension and develop characters...so maybe repeating things constantly is his idea of tension and character building?
I... Think he's trying to give subtle hints, and then more explicit hints, except he's bad so the first ones weren't subtle at all and it was blatantly obvious they were harvesting DNA samples from the very first time he showed them doing it, for example

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Rotten Red Rod posted:

Keep this in mind, it'll make a post-comic moment in 5.4 very, very funny.
I'm not entirely sure what he's DOING with the dna samples though, since all his minions have the same hair color and height as him so they're very obviously clones, of him. The gently caress does he need other people's dna for.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Rotten Red Rod posted:

Ok, now that the chapter is over, we get one final epilogue page, and this is why I’ve been beating the drum about the “mystery” of the clones. I present it with no commentary. I hope you find it as funny as I did.


...hahahaha :cawg: :roflolmao:

I mean, sure, we didn't find it... in that but I wasn't loving looking there :laugh:


Rotten Red Rod posted:

Eh they're all brainwashed, so they probably do that to normalize their mask use so they always do it in public and conceal the secret (lol).
Unless they're picking up a human trafficking shipment!

I still have no idea why Dr Cloneshimself cares about other people's dna here.

Rotten Red Rod posted:

Wait til you find out the reason Robotnik ordered the load of human cargo, it's pretty lol.
Hm... wait, are they raw material for the cloning process?

It's the dumbest reason I could think of, so....

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Rotten Red Rod posted:

No that would actually be a pretty good reason, supervillain-wise. It's way dumber than that.

god drat it don't make me want to do another early update, i have my real job to do
No, I mean it'd be real dumb because, like... why not just buy a bunch of pig carcasses or something. Cheaper and much more legal source of raw materials to feed into your human-making 3d printers than actual live humans.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Mors Rattus posted:

So, uh

First, why are Danica’s powers genetic, she’s a space cyborg plugged into a space machine
The fact that the sample was taken while she was powered up probably has something to do with that?

also that's a real stupid reason to dip your toes in human trafficing

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Cat Mattress posted:

Mookie did hit Dominic Deegan with a few setbacks, so he had to have known those were important for a story, that the hero has to struggle to make the victory more rewarding, but he never really accepted that.
And most of the time the setbacks either never actually hindered him, or got fixed or something promptly.


Wait did Whatsherface get Scarred Face Former Villain a telescope for Spacemas? The thing she likes?

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Invisible Clergy posted:

the desert of Eldariat
Please use its full name, Eldariat To Die.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




SardonicTyrant posted:

I updated the op and crossed out the rule to not talk about original Dominic Deegan, because there's just nothing to talk about wrt Legacy.

Looking at a few posts in the beginning, posters were...well, I wouldn't say hopeful for Legacy. More like a bile fascination. It's amazing how things turned out.

I was hopeful things would be interestingly bad.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




SardonicTyrant posted:

It kind of seems like Mookie is trying to convey the tusks are as bad as that, but Luna looks attractive even with the tusks. So weird.
I thought a large chunk of it was in-world anti-orc racism?

EDIT: wait, this is mook "I don't plan ahead" ie he absolutely had not through that up yet at this point in the comic, nevermind

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




YF-23 posted:

Mookie is also a coward because IIRC over time Luna's tusks become way less prominent and her face doesn't look nearly as hosed up so the whole "external beauty doesn't matter" message gets lost.
Aside from the tusks her face here looks exactly as hosed up as any other character, really.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Regalingualius posted:

Why was Hatsune chosen as the “aggressively enforce Death of the Author” default character?
Because one person made a joke attributing Minecraft to Hatsune Miku


also, Minecraft is really the only thing this works with, because a: notch went off the rails after making the game, and B: the structure of minecraft means you can't really easily put your personal views into it like you can a thing with, uh, any dialogue whatsoever

Rotten Red Rod posted:

This doesn't really relate to the current conversation but I had to share it because it explains so much


.. the doom slayer is literally powered by hell energy (and anger). He can just metabolize it correctly, rather than getting corrupted or dead like everybody else. :psyduck: And his alignment is True Angry.

EDIT: oh god, i just realized... in DD terms? This means the Doom Slayer is an infernomancer

Zereth fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Aug 27, 2020

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




catlord posted:

Besides, Doomslayer's a berserker in the most classical sense, even down to getting a boost by getting hosed up on drugs. What do you think's in a berserk pack, Mookie? A bottle of holy water and some communion wafers?
In doom 2016, lots of hell energy and using it is invariably fatal if you're not the Doom Slayer. EDIT: as are all the special powerups, including the "200 health" one.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Wait.

Why did Tim need the dryad's blood when he could just light himself on fire? Or get somebody to cast fireball at him, whatever.\
EDIT:

Invisible Clergy posted:

If Tim is healed by fire, and he knows this, why would he bother with this dryad quest? It would be easier to get a mage to shoot a fireball at him which we see grows his eyes back.

He becomes less threatening every time he appears even if his appearances are marked by progressively more gruesome and numerous kills of nameless npcs.
:yeah:

also as I recall every time he reappeared, we cared even less about the inhabitants of the world.

Zereth fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Aug 30, 2020

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Invisible Clergy posted:

Tim does not, at this point in time, have the ability to cast fireball 1.
I mean, he didn't say magical fire, he could build a campfire and stick his head in it. Or get some anachronistic lighter fluid and pour it on himself and strike a match.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Also, being able to cure his eyes at all seems inconsistent with having a pact with the "Demon of Wounds" as we learn later, but Mookie doesn't seem to care a lot about keeping things straight.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Begemot posted:

"You will feel bad when you hear the made up reason I contrived for why this female character has to wear fetish gear all the time" is really all-time stuff. Especially since The End in MGS3 had the exact same thing going on and he didn't have to run around in a speedo, for some reason.
To be fair to Kojima for a second, she also had her lungs get burnt to poo poo.

To stop being fair to Kojima, wearing pantyhose is not the actions of a person who needs to expose as much skin as possible. She'd honestly have been better off in like, jogging shorts and a sports bra.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




I suspect the D&D Campaign Siegfried had a much lesser anger problem and Mookie exaggerated it out of all recognition for his comic.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




What mookie conveyed is that Snout dove to the floor to avoid it.

Which probably means that he meant for snout to get hit, yeah.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Heliotrope posted:

This apparently happened to several other communities that used to be fans of Dominic Deegan like the Livejournal one. They all went from liking it to hating it, which makes me wonder where the people who actually unironically like Mookie's work talk.
To my understanding, they don't. Anybody who tries actually discussing the comic in any detail starts, like, noticing all the problems.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Ague Proof posted:

Is this some sick foreshadowing?
Mookie doesn't, by his own admission, plot far enough ahead to really do foreshadowing, they're just watching Celesto and Whatshername have kinky sex.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Why did dominic play on Stunt's misogyny instead of mentioning that his best friend was mind controlled?

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Mors Rattus posted:

I think the thing that bothers me most about Tim is he can’t decide if he wants the eyeholes covered or not. He deliberately wears the blindfold for, one must assume, fashion reasons, but then he always rips it off himself mid scene. There has been no scene he has been in where he kept it on, and he’s always the one to take it off.

A blindfold with big loving knives attached to go in his eye sockets.

That's definitely something a person who is regretting his deal and wants out would wear.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




The Little Death posted:



Did Donovan buy penis jelly-beans? or what else could they be shaped like?
rear end-shaped jelly beans?

Zerilan posted:

Comparing the amount of thought that Mookie and Thorsby put into their writing is like comparing a raindrop to the ocean.
And you can't really even say the art in Thorsby's stuff is worse.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




The Little Death posted:

And this section ends with Celesto going on an incel rant about whores dancing for the drat Chads. With all that Celesto has seen including Dominic murdered Amelia, the fact that Mookie twisted it around so that Celesto's motivation, which Dominic never fights against and in fact largely agrees with, is about whores and sex is a really gross. The framing of this story never makes Celesto's motivations unsympathetic, so you're supposed to understand them but that his methods are wrong. you'll see that when Dominic confronts him. So here again we have an example of Mookie being extremely misogynistic and covering it up by having his villains be his mouthpieces.
Which is basically a 180 from how he was introduced, too, hanging out having a threesome with whashername and her husband.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Also: "Gee I have no idea how a person teaching TIME MAGIC finishes their class in two minutes! It is a mystery!"

I forget is Dadinic supposed to be dumb as a brick?

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Regalingualius posted:

When are they getting to the fireworks factory?

But really, I’m not sure if you could even call this spinning it’s wheels in the air at this point, since that implies that it’s at least trying to go somewhere with the overall story. We’re still no closer to finding out just what the gently caress the titular Legacy even is than we were at the beginning of the plot, aside from some overly-vague cryptic writings that read like the recruitment pamphlet for a cult.

To mangle the hell out of a metaphor: Mookie has a plot hook, but forgot to actually put any bait on it.
It's spinning its wheels, but it's flipped over and the wheels are nowhere near in contact with the ground.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Hang on

Is this how dominic normally dresses? Purple scarf, neon green shirt, and orange coat?

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




YF-23 posted:

In case you missed that it happened, the pages where the Ink Witch and Arudak saw Bad Ink Witch and Bad Arudak and disappeared from the comic happened right after someone tweeted to mookie about the ink witch acting abusive towards Snout and mookie got pissy about it. So the armchair psychology theory here is that he got frustrated enough over it that he pushed the character off camera while trying to figure out what to do.
No first he had her explain to the audience Snout how what she did was okay and she totally wouldn't have done the thing she'd already done like twice without asking him, which she hadn't.

THEN the other two showed up and dragged them out of the comic.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




The Little Death posted:

It literally is. I think the thing I hate the most about Mookie's porn pictures is that they don't even really work as porn pictures. Just draw them boning for gently caress's sake! Own it, if you're going to do it! As it is, there's a weird prudishness that goes along with the drawings that I find way grosser than even some of worst fetish porn I've been exposed to by this website.
Have the satyrs had a single erect dick in any of those pictures? The lack makes things extra weird.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




The Little Death posted:

Gonna leave it there for now, since this post is already long, but will post the final 2 sections soon so we can wrap this interminable arc up. As terrible as some aspect of the storm of souls was, I still think it's about as good as Mookie is ever written and doesn't approach the sheer dumbness of some of the things that happen after this point. I can't wait to introduce all to Serk Brakkis and Oblivion Folder again.
I got into the original threads well after this point, if they even existed, so looking at this with the benefit of years of experince...


This is the high point. And it's so bad. But it gets worse from here. :allears:

EDIT:

rudecyrus posted:

I may be wrong, but I remember Mookie posting that he had a cat, which pissed me off because Spark looks like a hosed up Pomeranian.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




No that's Luna, she has the tusks and Miranda lent her the staff while she went and did... something... else.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




TheHan posted:

Too bad he hadn't read Emperor Joker, he could've ripped that off.

Course Mookie's so bad at ripping things off Celesto would've inexplicably turned into a clown mid-story.
Wouldn't he have needed a time machine to do that? This is from like, early 2000s.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




TheHan posted:

The Emperor Joker storyline ran in 2000, with Storm of Souls starting in ‘04. The collection didn’t come out until ‘07 though.
Oh, that's the date google was throwing at me, 2007. Whoops. :shrug: Should've investigated further, I guess.

Excuse me I think you mean "Mominic Deegan" here. :colbert:

TheHan posted:

Lmao at Klo Tark's sacrifice. Beyond him and Dominic knowing eachother for like...ONE day, it puts all these restrictions on magic that we've never seen before. Dominic teleported instantaneously several times this arc with no issue, but now suddenly teleportation is off the table and the only option is this very convoluted spell to switch places with Klo Tark and have him get atomized by the Elemecca instead.

And then it doesn't even matter! Somebody's gotta swoop in and give Celesto his punishment for being a bad boy and disrespecting Dominic (Not the exploding people!?) so Klo Tark is still around. The good guys totally and overwhelmingly triumphed and the bad guys got the karmic punishment they deserved. I wonder how he'd writing this ending now that he's denounced the idea of cosmic forces destroying your enemies.
Hell, Klo Tark had time for a long-distance goodbye speech. Instead of loving doing the thing to switch with Dominic, then just teleporting out of the death trap himself.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Invisible Clergy posted:

What did you change in the image? It looks the same to me.
The one thing that's in color.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




I suspect we are spending more time thinking about it than Mookie did.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




My point is that I think the actual answer for what the Heart of Magic favoring the Orcs instead did is "nothing, because the comic ended before Mookie had to decide what the specific consequences were".

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Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




TheHan posted:

Remember when Snout and the Ink Witch found a library, but it was filled with the wrong kinds of books! Those books were full of sex and nudity, so they were owned by a gross freak. Not at all like our chaste heroes who just happen to find themselves naked and spooning every night.
Hey now!


That was a store.

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