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Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Klyith posted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/19/nyregion/epstein-prison-guards-arrested.html

The guards were dumb morons who ignored their job all the time. They didn't do 30 minute check-ins every night, not just the night the shithead killed himself.

There hasn't been a successful suicide in that prison, previously to Epstein, in like 14 years.

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Zidrooner
Jul 20, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Klyith posted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/19/nyregion/epstein-prison-guards-arrested.html

The guards were dumb morons who ignored their job all the time. They didn't do 30 minute check-ins every night, not just the night the shithead killed himself.

Nah, he was murdered by an assassin on behalf of the rich and powerful and they're trying to scapegoat the guards they bribed.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Maybe he was like the Michael Jordan of suicide.

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


Hieronymous Alloy posted:

There hasn't been a successful suicide in that prison, previously to Epstein, in like 14 years.

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

Solice Kirsk posted:

Maybe he was like the Michael Jordan of suicide.

6'6, black and had a gambling problem?

Kazak
Jan 10, 2012

Solice Kirsk posted:

Maybe he was like the Michael Jordan of suicide.

Star of at least one kid friendly film?

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY

Zidrooner posted:

Nah, he was murdered by an assassin on behalf of the rich and powerful and they're trying to scapegoat the guards they bribed.

lol at those guards thinking they're going to live to spend their bribe money

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



phasmid posted:

lol at those guards thinking they're going to live to spend their bribe money

You dont necessarily even need to bribe the guards if you can arrange for two lazy, dishonest fuckups to be on Epstein duty. Now they'll take the fall, and they know nothing.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦
Appreciate the subtle thread title change

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

There hasn't been a successful suicide in that prison, previously to Epstein, in like 14 years.

For most of those 14 years they probably had the funding to avoid guards working 16 hour shifts and sleeping for most of the night?


Trump destroying the systems of government with lunatic policies and re-directing all funding into his wall is part of a conspiracy, yes, but it isn't the pedo conspiracy.

Kaincypher
Apr 24, 2008

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Conspiracy theory always reverts back to antisemitism because antisemitism is the original conspiracy theory. The other epstein thread has developed a discourse about the “cabal” that epstein served and god drat even the most basic vocabulary emerges out of jew hatred. It’s inescapable even if you’re trying.

They do not like being told that, by the way.

Epstein being jewish probably doesn't help the matter. And at least the Epstein being a Mossad agent theory is just coming out now. It took months and a half dozen conspiracy theories before the jews got dragged into it. Progress!

Crypto Cobain
Jun 17, 2018

by Reene

Heath posted:

Appreciate the subtle thread title change
It's the best thread title on the forums right now imo

Gay Horney
Feb 10, 2013

by Reene

Klyith posted:

For most of those 14 years they probably had the funding to avoid guards working 16 hour shifts and sleeping for most of the night?


Trump destroying the systems of government with lunatic policies and re-directing all funding into his wall is part of a conspiracy, yes, but it isn't the pedo conspiracy.

yes it is. it's all the same poo poo. it's not just trump that's responsible either. neoliberal austerity funnels wealth to the top to aid and abet pedophilia, drone strikes in the middle east, and coups in south America

JK Fresco
Jul 5, 2019

Gay Horney posted:

yes it is. it's all the same poo poo. it's not just trump that's responsible either. neoliberal austerity funnels wealth to the top to aid and abet pedophilia, drone strikes in the middle east, and coups in south America

The halls of power are filled with guys like this:
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/19/mueller-witness-george-nader-accused-of-transporting-boy-for-sex-porn.html

quote:

George Nader, a key witness in special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe, has been charged in a new federal indictment with transporting a 14-year-old boy for sex two decades ago, child pornography and carrying obscene materials into the United States.

The new charges against Nader, a 60-year-old Middle East power broker, were revealed Friday in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia.

Nader — who has been an advisor to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed Al-Nahyan of the United Arab Emirates — already was being held in jail without bail after his arrest at a New York City airport in early June on a charge of transporting child pornography.
...
The third count accuses Nader of knowingly transporting a 14-year-old boy from Europe to Washington Dulles Airport in February 2000 and then allegedly engaging in sexual acts with that child after taking him to Nader’s home in Washington.

The boy was from the Czech Republic, a prosecutor reportedly said at Nader’s arraignment on Friday.
...
A dual citizen of Lebanon and the United States, Nader is scheduled to go on trial on Sept. 30

He was convicted of a child pornography charge in Virginia in 1991 and sentenced to six months in prison.

Nader faced a similar charge in Washington, D.C., in 1985, but that case was dismissed as a result of an invalid search warrant.
...
Nader helped arrange a January 2017 meeting in the Seychelles between Erik Prince and Kirill Dmitriev, the head of Russia’s sovereign wealth fund, who reported directly to Russian President Vladimir Putin, according to Mueller’s report on his investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

The meeting in the Seychelles was set up after Dmitriev asked Nader “to request a meeting with the ‘key people’ in the incoming administration [of President Trump] as soon as possible
...
Nader has played a role in the diplomatic efforts of some U.S. presidents.

He worked on President George H.W. Bush’s efforts to release hostages held in Lebanon and later was involved in President Bill Clinton’s attempt at reaching a peace deal between Israel and Syria, according to CNN.


A pedo who donated millions to Clinton then later donated millions to Trump and keeps getting caught up in political machinations


JK Fresco fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Dec 7, 2019

Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?

Zidrooner posted:

Nah, he was murdered by an assassin on behalf of the rich and powerful and they're trying to scapegoat the guards they bribed.
The fact that these guards are the only people being charged as far as I know is nuts. Really going after the top brass on this one! Wouldn't be surprised if the guards weren't even bribed, they were just easy to relocate; didn't one of them say he was sent off to do something else while the death happened?

JK Fresco
Jul 5, 2019
Note that the crime was committed 20 years ago but he's only being prosecuted for it now after he pissed off Trump by testifying in the Mueller hearings

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Kaincypher posted:

Epstein being jewish probably doesn't help the matter. And at least the Epstein being a Mossad agent theory is just coming out now. It took months and a half dozen conspiracy theories before the jews got dragged into it. Progress!
you're too optimistic. mossad allegations were being made since day one due to his partner ghislaine being the daughter of an outed mossad agent.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



EA Sports posted:

bunch of mossad fans itt.

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

Kazak posted:

The only credible suicide explanation is that his contacts in finance and intelligence told him to kill himself pronto or face a much worse fate

Which isn't really a suicide


Sunswipe posted:

I think that's probably what happened. Explains why he was locked up with that psycho roided up cop who beat the poo poo out of him. That was the warning, then he gets told "You can either kill yourself or the next guy we lock you up with beats you to death."

this is the most likely explanation imo

that prison hadn't had a successful suicide in 14 years, and they had arguably the most high-profile prisoner in the country on suicide watch. If the powers that be wanted to keep Epstein alive in spite of himself, he'd definitely be alive right now. Which means they wanted him dead.

The same people who purposefully bunked him with the psycho cop later gave him an ultimatum and waived off his sitter detail one way or another.

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

yeah, i'm totally willing to believe epstein performed an act that caused his life to end, but as ridiculous as the sentence looks when you put the words all next to each other, that's not the same as killing himself in this context

someone basically walked by and tossed a noose in his cell with a little tch-tchk fingergun wink

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Kazak posted:

The only credible suicide explanation is that his contacts in finance and intelligence told him to kill himself pronto or face a much worse fate

Which isn't really a suicide

The only credible suicide explanation is that he had both osteoporosis and hulk strength megaleap legs

And he didn't

red19fire
May 26, 2010

I remember in one of the Bill the Galactic Hero books, there was a chapter where Bill gets framed for murder and put into a prison holding cell on a spaceship. The guards strongly imply he should kill himself before facing judgement and inevitably torturous death, right before they put him in the cell. He is provided his prison clothing and wonders why it includes a sturdy leather belt with a well worn final hole. Then he notices there’s a hook welded into the ceiling exactly the size of a belt hole.

This was a science fiction comedy series for teenagers.

————

Personally, I wonder if there are different pedo cabals based on region or profession. Like, is Geffen the head of a west coast/showbiz group, while Epstein was east coast/politics, the Franklin bank is Midwest/finance, etc.

Or is it one massive global conspiracy, like SPECTRE?

Motherfucker
Jul 16, 2011

I certainly dont have deep-seated issues involving birthdays.
oshit we cspam??

Klyith posted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/19/nyregion/epstein-prison-guards-arrested.html

The guards were dumb morons who ignored their job all the time. They didn't do 30 minute check-ins every night, not just the night the shithead killed himself.

o poo poo does someone actually believe epstein comitted suicide??


oh gently caress!!

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

red19fire posted:

Personally, I wonder if there are different pedo cabals based on region or profession. Like, is Geffen the head of a west coast/showbiz group, while Epstein was east coast/politics, the Franklin bank is Midwest/finance, etc.

Or is it one massive global conspiracy, like SPECTRE?

nah none of these people have the competency to talk to each other, they just move according to their whims behind the curtain and have enough common interests that it only looks like conspiracy

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Klyith posted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/19/nyregion/epstein-prison-guards-arrested.html

The guards were dumb morons who ignored their job all the time. They didn't do 30 minute check-ins every night, not just the night the shithead killed himself.

In the jail, where employees are charged with falsifying records, THOSE records are actually correct?

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?
There is some deduction you can apply; you can’t necessarily hide deaths, so is it better for the prison for them to be murders, or suicides?

red19fire
May 26, 2010

If the Wire is anything to go by, any death that even vaguely looks like a suicide will be reported as a suicide because guards don’t want to deal with the paperwork.

Also I forgot the first season of Ray Donovan has him explicitly warning someone not to let any execs in the music industry ‘mess around’ with their teenage singer son. It’s so weird how ‘boomers in ________ industry are child predators’ has been internalized and treated as an open secret.

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.
College Slice

Gay Horney posted:

yes it is. it's all the same poo poo. it's not just trump that's responsible either. neoliberal austerity funnels wealth to the top to aid and abet pedophilia, drone strikes in the middle east, and coups in south America

Trump actually signed an EO that freezed hiring at federal prisons, and was directly the reason why all the guards end up working crazy OT and sleeping on the job.

Which would be absolutely classic Trump: Mr. Magoo'ing his way into killing one of his biggest threats through the big brain business sense of cutting corners.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

red19fire posted:

Also I forgot the first season of Ray Donovan has him explicitly warning someone not to let any execs in the music industry ‘mess around’ with their teenage singer son. It’s so weird how ‘boomers in ________ industry are child predators’ has been internalized and treated as an open secret.

Anyone who works with or has children would do well to remember that. In my view, no one should ever be alone with a child (besides parents), especially a younger one. Teachers should have aides, two people and multiple children for a bathroom break. During a doctor's visit a family member should be present 100% of the time. Sometimes it will be unavoidable (babysitting for example), but vigilance and mandatory reporting go a long way towards stopping abuse.

Space Camp fuckup
Aug 2, 2003

lol that this thread got reopened once grandpa mod saw something on the CNN that he recognized

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



The Butcher posted:

I did this once while incredibly hosed up on MDMA, and I was very apologetic about it, and didn't even do a sex crime at all.

Why is this so difficult?

But he fought in W A R !

He overdosed on precious hormones because of massive and highly impressive male physical exertion during W A R !

GORDON
Jan 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Rhesus Pieces posted:

that prison hadn't had a successful suicide in 14 years, and they had arguably the most high-profile prisoner in the country on suicide watch. If the powers that be wanted to keep Epstein alive in spite of himself, he'd definitely be alive right now. Which means they wanted him dead.


They couldn't afford to have a guy literally sitting there watching the most high-profile criminal in the country.

It's a drat shame, but c'est la vie!

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

GORDON posted:

They couldn't afford to have a guy literally sitting there watching the most high-profile criminal in the country.

It's a drat shame, but c'est la vie!

The president got arrested? New one on me.

GORDON
Jan 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
Loudly, as they perform for the cameras: "Ok, we're going to leave Epstein secure in his cell, now. We have all this awesome surveillance to keep him from killing himself." Makes voice softer: "Oh then." Voice trails off: "Byeeeee....."

Then they turn off the cameras and let him get murdered, probably.

That's probably how it went down.

Evil Agita
Feb 25, 2005

Lord Fool, give me another chance. I'll prove my strength to you!
This thread never should have been closed

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

the epstein thread didn't close itself

Honky Dong Country
Feb 11, 2015

Patware posted:

the epstein thread didn't close itself

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Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Space Camp fuckup posted:

lol that this thread got reopened once grandpa mod saw something on the CNN that he recognized

Wtf you on about? Someone, I believe the op, pmd me as was asked if new poo poo came up.

Evil Agita posted:

This thread never should have been closed

It was noxious slapfighting.

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