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Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

SpaceAceJase posted:

THICC platters

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Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
the PHAT file system

suffix
Jul 27, 2013

Wheeee!
did you know micro$$$HAFT has patents on the fat32 and exfat formats?
pretty hosed up if you ask me

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts
two pages and no cracks about someones mom. shameful

theodop
Dec 30, 2005

rock solid, heart touching

graph posted:

two pages and no cracks about someones mom. shameful

are signatures still allowed

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?

suffix posted:

did you know micro$$$HAFT has patents on the fat32 and exfat formats?
pretty hosed up if you ask me

fat32 is over 20 years old so not valid patents there. they do have something in exfat I think.

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

theodop posted:

are signatures still allowed

when were they not

Best Bi Geek Squid
Mar 25, 2016
winfs when

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe
In 2004 I had a 256MB USB flash drive. Its volume name was “THE MAGIC STICK”

probably fat32 since exfat wasn’t really around then

klosterdev
Oct 10, 2006

Na na na na na na na na Batman!
is that what you told the ladies

SRQ
Nov 9, 2009

your moms so fat the camcorder had to use fat32 disks

Perplx
Jun 26, 2004


Best viewed on Orgasma Plasma
Lipstick Apathy

ReFS superseded it, ReFS is missing a bunch of features and can't boot windows after 6 years lol

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Perplx posted:

ReFS superseded it, ReFS is missing a bunch of features and can't boot windows after 6 years lol

#REF!

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
if there's a better way of allocating files than a table, well, frankly I don't want to know about it

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

file allocation unidirectional list

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

file allocation cupboard

burning swine
May 26, 2004



file allocation sack

Best Bi Geek Squid
Mar 25, 2016

quote:

FATX is the file system used by the Xbox and the Xbox 360, it is unsupported natively by Windows but has some functionality in Linux. Sometimes called "XTAF" (due to its little endian header), the file system is derived from the age-old MS-DOS file system and can be considered as a cleaned-up version of it.

file allocation table xtra large

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

they called the second file allocation table fat 10

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe
yo mamma so FAT she cross-linked breakfast and second breakfast into the same cluster!

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Hed posted:

yo mamma so FAT she cross-linked breakfast and second breakfast into the same cluster!

lomarf

animist
Aug 28, 2018
ext4

Vomik
Jul 29, 2003

This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan

they called the 4th ext FS ext4

ConanTheLibrarian
Aug 13, 2004


dis buch is late
Fallen Rib
smdh that they didnt start the numbering at zero

pram
Jun 10, 2001

Perplx posted:

ReFS superseded it, ReFS is missing a bunch of features and can't boot windows after 6 years lol

they actually removed it from windows 10 lol

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?

ext is at version 4
fat is at version 32

crushing victory for fat. get this incompatible linux garbage file system out of my thread.

Doc Block
Apr 15, 2003
Fun Shoe
XFS is the real deal, a filesystem developed for supercomputers.

get this FAT and ext poo poo outta here.

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
i ran xfs for the longest time and yeah it rules

but drat if zfs doesn't have features that should basically be mandatory for detecting silent data corruption

anyway yfspos

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?

Doc Block posted:

XFS is the real deal, a filesystem developed for supercomputers.

get this FAT and ext poo poo outta here.

this is the fat thread, the thread for the best, most compatible general purpose file system. if you want to make a thread about file systems that lose all your data when your computer crashes, you should make that

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

The Management posted:

this is the fat thread, the thread for the best, most compatible general purpose file system. if you want to make a thread about file systems that lose all your data when your computer crashes, you should make that

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

The Management posted:

this is the fat thread, the thread for the best, most compatible general purpose file system. if you want to make a thread about file systems that lose all your data when your computer crashes, you should make that

Norithiel
Aug 4, 2006

8U

Doc Block posted:

XFS is the real deal, a filesystem developed for supercomputers.

get this FAT and ext poo poo outta here.

the one time I used xfs, it got munged in a power outage and Red Hat/CentOS, in their infinite wisdom, decided that xfs_repair doesn't run on boot

I was pretty jazzed to try it out too :(

edit:

back on topic, why do y'all think exFAT hasn't caught on yet? I love FAT32 to pieces but the 4GB file size limit kind of cramps my style

Norithiel fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Jul 15, 2019

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

Norithiel posted:

back on topic, why do y'all think exFAT hasn't caught on yet? I love FAT32 to pieces but the 4GB file size limit kind of cramps my style

Because Microsoft is extracting patent royalties from everyone who implements it and there's no reason to use it over NTFS, ext4, or HFS+/APFS except on resource-constrained embedded systems or where strict compliance with the SDXC standard (which mandates support for exFAT) is required.

Norithiel
Aug 4, 2006

8U

Mr.Radar posted:

Because Microsoft is extracting patent royalties from everyone who implements it and there's no reason to use it over NTFS, ext4, or HFS+/APFS except on resource-constrained embedded systems or where strict compliance with the SDXC standard (which mandates support for exFAT) is required.

well that's really poop of them :(

suffix
Jul 27, 2013

Wheeee!
i dont think they even care about the patent royalities they just wanted to continue to blackmail phone manufacturers to push winphones

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

suffix posted:

i dont think they even care about the patent royalities they just wanted to continue to blackmail phone manufacturers to push winphones

hmm... that would make sense considering that they are recently considering adding the exfat patents to their royalty-free patent pool for open-source software to get it merged directly into the Linux kernel now that winphone is a dead platform.

Doc Block
Apr 15, 2003
Fun Shoe

Norithiel posted:

the one time I used xfs, it got munged in a power outage and Red Hat/CentOS, in their infinite wisdom, decided that xfs_repair doesn't run on boot

I was pretty jazzed to try it out too :(

edit:

back on topic, why do y'all think exFAT hasn't caught on yet? I love FAT32 to pieces but the 4GB file size limit kind of cramps my style

LOL if you aren’t using an uninterruptible power supply, LOL my rear end off

for reals tho, I ran XFS on Linux for a while and never had any problems. also ran it on my SGI Octane without problems, so 🤷‍♂️

cZk
Oct 6, 2014

i am a flight risk
and i am in flight
dont forget that bill gates wrote it on an airlpane

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/?p=3003

WilWheaton
Oct 11, 2006

It'd be hard to get bored on this ship!

cZk posted:

dont forget that bill gates wrote it on an airlpane

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/?p=3003

bill gate owns

*img of bill gates jumping over a chair*

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Doc Block
Apr 15, 2003
Fun Shoe
shut up, wesley

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