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Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"

Foppish Yet Dashing posted:

I really want to see Tom Cruise in a Tarantino film.

We have one chance left, possibly.

I kinda doubt that would happen, Tom Cruise hasn’t been in a movie without a significant amount of control since like Topic Thunder? Besides, based on his feelings about the Mansion Family I can’t imagine Tarantino’s overly fond of Scientology.

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ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Foppish Yet Dashing posted:

I really want to see Tom Cruise in a Tarantino film.

We have one chance left, possibly.

Who do you think Cruise is going to get to film the outer space footage?

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Tarantino isn’t going to turn down the chance to film feet in zero gravity.

I’d like to see Tom Hanks in a Tarantino movie. Chris Evans and John Goodman would be on my list too.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Cruise was actually considered for Pitt's role in OUATIH but talks fell through early on.

https://www.slashfilm.com/tom-cruise-in-once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood/

quote:

Back when casting rumors were flying around about Tarantino’s then-untitled Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, one of the big names that kept coming up was Tom Cruise. Cruise obviously isn’t in the movie now, but he could have been. Speaking with the Happy Sad Confused podcast (via The Playlist), Tarantino confirmed that he did indeed talk to Cruise about joining the film: “He’s a great guy and we really hit it off. [A collaboration] could happen on something else.”

So why didn’t Cruise make it into the film? According to Tarantino, it was all about getting the right combo of leading men. DiCaprio and Pitt, both of whom Tarantino has worked with before, were his first choices to star in Hollywood, with DiCaprio as star Rick Dalton, and Pitt as his stuntman Cliff Booth. But landing them was never a sure thing. “You can’t count on that,” the director said. “They both have to respond to it, they both have to want to play those roles, they both have to be available, there’s a whole lot of stuff there. And if you’re casting an actor, casting a team, where the one guy is a double of another guy then they have to match up in the right kind of way.”

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.
I think about Leo at the end, giant margarita in hand, ranting and saying "property taxes up the butt!" a lot.

He gives the best performance of the two for me. He's great at showing this kind of masculine anxiety but his performance feels so lived in, he disappeared into it.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

That masculine anxiety is pretty important. I mean, I know "they're secretly gay" is such a meme interpretation for media these days, but I really do think there's some intentional homoerotic tension between Rick and Cliff (which by not making it explicit would track with the time period the film is set in). It starts with the jokes at the beginning -- "Yeah, you could say I carry his load." But Rick is obviously very flamboyant in his lifestyle, fashion, but also is most content when he's with Cliff. Cliff meanwhile is the more traditionally masculine of the two yet also has this element of being overly sexualized while avoiding women's advances (and probably killing his wife). Rick getting a beard Italian wife makes sense, but the scene in the bar where he breaks down sobbing telling Cliff he has to let him go reads like a breakup scene. In the finale, his wife is secondary, it's all about whether Cliff is ok and wanting to ride to the hospital with him.

Tarantino has never done anything explicitly queer, but he has hinted at homoeroticism before in odd ways. Like, Michael Madsen's character in The Hateful Eight is named Joe Gage after a pioneering gay pornographer (best known for El Paso Wrecking Corp. and his work with Fred Halsted). It's all little weird subtleties that I don't think can be ignored, nor do I think I'm reading too much into it.

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"
I mean... I don’t know if this counts but it fits with your theory of traditional masculinity turning into homoeroticism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF1LXL6OOsM

beanieson
Sep 25, 2008

I had the opportunity to change literally anything about the world and I used it to get a new av
How do bare feet fit into all this

pwn
May 27, 2004

This Christmas get "Shoes"









:pwn: :pwn: :pwn: :pwn: :pwn:

Coffee And Pie posted:

I mean... I don’t know if this counts but it fits with your theory of traditional masculinity turning into homoeroticism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF1LXL6OOsM

Did they even have to script that or did they just start rolling

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

beanieson posted:

How do bare feet fit into all this

QT likes to suck toes. What's your question?

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

TrixRabbi posted:

That masculine anxiety is pretty important. I mean, I know "they're secretly gay" is such a meme interpretation for media these days, but I really do think there's some intentional homoerotic tension between Rick and Cliff (which by not making it explicit would track with the time period the film is set in). It starts with the jokes at the beginning -- "Yeah, you could say I carry his load." But Rick is obviously very flamboyant in his lifestyle, fashion, but also is most content when he's with Cliff. Cliff meanwhile is the more traditionally masculine of the two yet also has this element of being overly sexualized while avoiding women's advances (and probably killing his wife). Rick getting a beard Italian wife makes sense, but the scene in the bar where he breaks down sobbing telling Cliff he has to let him go reads like a breakup scene. In the finale, his wife is secondary, it's all about whether Cliff is ok and wanting to ride to the hospital with him.


I think I caught a wiff of this but you lay it out well.

Happy Hippo
Aug 8, 2004

The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > Batman's Shameful Secret > BSS Derailed Thread: Spider-Island

TrixRabbi posted:

That masculine anxiety is pretty important. I mean, I know "they're secretly gay" is such a meme interpretation for media these days, but I really do think there's some intentional homoerotic tension between Rick and Cliff (which by not making it explicit would track with the time period the film is set in). It starts with the jokes at the beginning -- "Yeah, you could say I carry his load." But Rick is obviously very flamboyant in his lifestyle, fashion, but also is most content when he's with Cliff. Cliff meanwhile is the more traditionally masculine of the two yet also has this element of being overly sexualized while avoiding women's advances (and probably killing his wife). Rick getting a beard Italian wife makes sense, but the scene in the bar where he breaks down sobbing telling Cliff he has to let him go reads like a breakup scene. In the finale, his wife is secondary, it's all about whether Cliff is ok and wanting to ride to the hospital with him.

Tarantino has never done anything explicitly queer, but he has hinted at homoeroticism before in odd ways. Like, Michael Madsen's character in The Hateful Eight is named Joe Gage after a pioneering gay pornographer (best known for El Paso Wrecking Corp. and his work with Fred Halsted). It's all little weird subtleties that I don't think can be ignored, nor do I think I'm reading too much into it.

Hans Landa is in a relationship with his radioman who Aldo casually shoots to death at the end of Inglourious Basterds, which adds a whole new layer to Landa's character

The Cameo
Jan 20, 2005


The thin, sometimes blurred line between masculine love and homoeroticism has been a thing in Quentin’s movies since he got one finished:

Kuiperdolin
Sep 5, 2011

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

The Vega brothers are married, that's why they have the same name.

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

They didn't call him Toothpick Vic because you could see his ribs!

poonchasta
Feb 22, 2007

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Just saw this movie for the first time. After seeing Cliff's lovely little trailer behind the drive-in, did anyone else think that the second can of dog food that gets pulled out is Cliff's dinner?

I, Butthole
Jun 30, 2007

Begin the operations of the gas chambers, gas schools, gas universities, gas libraries, gas museums, gas dance halls, and gas threads, etcetera.
I DEMAND IT

poonchasta posted:

Just saw this movie for the first time. After seeing Cliff's lovely little trailer behind the drive-in, did anyone else think that the second can of dog food that gets pulled out is Cliff's dinner?

Nah he does dump it in the bowl, Cliff has Kraft mac and cheese.

He does eat dog food while tripping on acid at the end, though

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.

poonchasta posted:

Just saw this movie for the first time. After seeing Cliff's lovely little trailer behind the drive-in, did anyone else think that the second can of dog food that gets pulled out is Cliff's dinner?

My favorite joke in this film is the oil being mined right outside his trailer. If he owned the land, he'd be rich!

ThawedGladiator
Aug 29, 2008

The Cameo posted:

And Damian Lewis as Steve McQueen, god loving drat, that guy knew he had one scene, one monologue, playing one of the most famous actors in American cinema history, and he had to nail it, and he conveys so much regret in "I never stood a chance" that I found myself feeling bad for Steve McQueen, the king of cool.

This blew me away the first time I saw it. I actually thought, wow, either they pulled some archival footage of McQueen for this, or did some incredible CGI or rotoscoping or something. In that scene he looks, sounds and acts exactly like McQueen. I think the way his face was lit had a lot to do with the uncanny resemblance.

Re the feet thing. Anyone notice Sharon's feet are dirty just like Pussycat's? To me this is suggesting they're not really that different. Both are hippy chicks but one just happens to have money, a career and a famous husband. The other, dumpster pickles and Charlie...

pwn
May 27, 2004

This Christmas get "Shoes"









:pwn: :pwn: :pwn: :pwn: :pwn:
I think it suggests that as time wears on, a fetish takes new shapes

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Tarantino finally makes a documentary and it’s about the history of feet as depicted throughout cinema.

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

ruddiger posted:

Tarantino finally makes a documentary and it’s about the history of feet as depicted throughout cinema.

It's three hours long and narrated by an audibly irritated Michael Madsen.

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.
Tarintino says in an interview he brought a date to that theater there once and did the thing sharon tate does in the movie. This cracks brad pitt up.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

FunkyAl posted:

Tarintino says in an interview he brought a date to that theater there once and did the thing sharon tate does in the movie. This cracks brad pitt up.

He did it? Or the date? Sounds like the former and I hope that's true.

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.
It is the former! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_W12HmsIMY Here is what its from

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

BiggerBoat posted:

Finally finished the thread and surprised by a few things.

I didn't blink twice at the Bruce Lee scene and thought the guy who played him was spot on. Certainly didn't expect this many posts about it that's for sure.

Also, as a :corsair: goon, I honestly thought the Manson clan and Helter Skelter were common knowledge. I remember it as a kid, watched the TV movie and practically grew up with it. The band Heart wrote a song about Manson ("Magic Man") The idea of someone not being versed in the story is weird to me so the tension buildup worked on me but I can imagine the if you didn't know Tate's ultimate fate, her scenes might have seemed pointless.

For those not schooled on the killings, they had actually murdered another group of 5 people the previous night and had scrawled words like "piggy" and "helter skelter" written in blood on the walls. For some reason, police didn't think the crimes were related.

Abigail Folger, the heiress to the coffee fortune, was also murdered which is also one of the reasons the case was as famous as it was. Rich, white celebrities murdered in Roman Polanski's home with that many stab wounds was huge news.

I had avoided spoilers and was very glad we didn't get a Tarantino take on the killings and what they did a pregnant woman.

Can't wait to watch this again. It's really stuck with me over the last few days

magic man was not written about Manson you idiot.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Harton posted:

magic man was not written about Manson you idiot.

Well that's what I was always told. My bad. Geez

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

We don't talk poo poo about Heart around these parts, buddy

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

lol sorry, I just hate when people spread bad information. I went back and listened to it after you said that all excited and then read it’s about her loving manager.

If I hadn’t checked then I would have started spreading this nonsense.

PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.

ruddiger posted:

Tarantino finally makes a documentary and it’s about the history of feet as depicted throughout cinema.

It started in 1900 with As seen through a telescope. "

https://youtu.be/kC8RvcJXohk

DickButt Shitlord
Oct 14, 2012
Quentin Tarantino's last film should be about Col. Hans Landa living out the rest of his days in America with a swastika carved into his forehead. People would yell "You Fuckin' Nazi BASTARD!" and Hans would yell back "I ENDED WORLD WAR TWO!!"

Kuiperdolin
Sep 5, 2011

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

Like if it was the fifties and I saw someone with a swastika carved in his forehead I'd probably assume he was a victim of the Nazis not one himself... it's not like a tattoo.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

"My Swastika scar has a lot of people asking questions already answered by the scar"

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

Kuiperdolin posted:

Like if it was the fifties and I saw someone with a swastika carved in his forehead I'd probably assume he was a victim of the Nazis not one himself... it's not like a tattoo.

Ah, er… hmm….

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
Yeah Operation Paperclip did not take long to get outed thanks to a few enlisted men that really hated having to help with it.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Just remake Boys from Brazil?

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Yeah Operation Paperclip did not take long to get outed thanks to a few enlisted men that really hated having to help with it.

I was making a joke about how the OP contrasted "appearing as a victim of the Nazis" and "having a tattoo from the Nazis." You see, there is a fairly pointed history about that.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
I was wondering why people were still talking about this film still.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



DickButt Shitlord posted:

Quentin Tarantino's last film should be about Col. Hans Landa living out the rest of his days in America with a swastika carved into his forehead. People would yell "You Fuckin' Nazi BASTARD!" and Hans would yell back "I ENDED WORLD WAR TWO!!"

And then he somehow manages to inspire Charles Manson to carve a swastika into his own forehead years later

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DickButt Shitlord
Oct 14, 2012

punk rebel ecks posted:

I was wondering why people were still talking about this film still.

I had this idea and I had to find somewhere relevant to share. This is what I found. But uh yeah I love OUATIH

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