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Hyrax Attack! posted:Yeah I think it was meant to show that Dalton wasn’t interested in the conversation and won’t remember it. He doesn’t even put his book down. Contrast to him speaking to the girl and getting useful acting advice that he follows. The simplest answer to question one was that he recognized the situation he was in and lying to tell them what they wanted to hear. He saw her behavior with the cops who drove by earlier, and was able to clock poo poo was weird, so he told a story to make himself seem like one of them.
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MaoistBanker posted:The juxtaposition of Rick shooting Lancer to Cliff going to the Spahn Ranch (and both being shot like a TV western?) *kisses fingertips* The best part is that the acting on the Rick side is all powerful and naturalistic while all the stuff at the ranch is stilted and other worldly. Basically the style of acting you would actually see in a TV Western as opposed to what Rick is doing. By the way, "He said he was the devil and uh... He was here to do some devil poo poo." is maybe the funniest thing Tarantino has ever written.
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TheAardvark posted:Bruce Lee: they painted him as a whiny bitch, claiming his superiority in front of the white main character, and claiming he wasn't beaten with a standard "oh I would have won if" kinda thing. That bothered me too. QT painted it the way he would have if Bruce Lee was an embarassing person to have around. Bruce Lee when he was young, by all accounts, was a cocky rear end in a top hat. Also important to the scene: they agree to a friendly competition just trying to knock the other down and Cliff doesn't follow that, punching him square in the face. Bruce clearly wasn't going all out, and the one hit Cliff gets in was because he goads Lee into telegraphing his move, too.
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Jul 28, 2019 01:46
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Midgetskydiver posted:No idea if this was intentional or not but her character leaving was the moment I realized the next few minutes would not be a telling of actual events, or even close to it. It broke the suspense for me, but in a weird way I liked it. After that I just let myself relax and enjoy the ride. It's actually based on a real event. One of the girls who went did forget her knife. But Tex told her they'd just use a kitchen knife from the house. So it's the first real part of divergence and where, if you know the events, you should realize something is up.
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Jul 30, 2019 00:22
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JethroMcB posted:Holy poo poo, every bit of this is insane. Such attention to detail, so much work for shots that last maybe 30 seconds. No you're right. But that's the point. He's glorifying that era of TV and doing his idealized, loving version of it. Not how it really was.
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Jul 30, 2019 03:23
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mary had a little clam posted:I've been going back and forth on OUAT and enjoying the discussion in this thread a lot. However, I've also been following some interesting discussions on Twitter regarding the film and this one caught my eye: The Manson family: just some hippies who don't deserve the same treatment as literal Nazis. 
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Jul 30, 2019 19:35
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:There was not a single nazi in Germany that didn't spend their days high out of their loving mind by the end of the war. They literally handed out meth like candy. I don't accept the Nuremberg defense for either group. Yes they were both indoctrinated and yes they were both following orders from someone else. But at a certain point I don't care. And the point is well before stabbing a pregnant woman 16 times.
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Jul 30, 2019 20:22
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:I'm not defending either one, just pointing out that "drugged out gently caress ups" is a fairly perfect descriptor for the OG Nazis. Oh I know. Sorry for the confusion. More an addendum to your statement than an argument.
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Jul 30, 2019 20:31
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Drunkboxer posted:I wonder if some people were geared up to hate this movie because they expected it to depict the murders as they occurred but in an exploitative way and are grasping at straws now. I can’t think of any other reason why people would be angry that the movie vilified the loving Manson family. "Hippies" is being super reductive about who they were and as far as I'm concerned isn't even accurate. Rick calls them that cause he's a prick and doesn't know any better, but calling them that in your "woke" criticism of the movie is dead wrong. They were a white supremacist cult who killed half a dozen people, including a pregnant woman, in order to start a race war. gently caress the Manson family and anyone who's defending them in their hot take on this movie in any way.
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Jul 30, 2019 20:46
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Timeless Appeal posted:Hey hey hey let's get our facts straight. poo poo your right. I forgot their core belief that black people would be too stupid to run society so they would beg them, the unwashed desert cult, to rule over them.
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Jul 30, 2019 22:14
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Maxwell Lord posted:As soon as that piece was published Thurman made a public statement thanking Tarantino for helping with her lawsuit and releasing the crash footage, and basically was making it clear that this wasn’t about him. I really think the writer leapt to conclusions. Didn't they also start dating not long after?
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Jul 31, 2019 03:26
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iamsosmrt posted:Where was Luke Perry and his son Jungle Boy? Jungle Boy should have played Manson.
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Jul 31, 2019 05:07
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Unmature posted:There is nothing wrong with their post Austin Powers is rancid bullshit.
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https://twitter.com/zodiac_mf/status/1156382244669444098?s=21 Holy poo poo.
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Jul 31, 2019 10:03
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LesterGroans posted:It was the real Sharon Tate Really?
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Jul 31, 2019 18:27
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iamsosmrt posted:Well that got a bit personal. This thread is truly something awful. You literally started this conversation by saying you think most people who like the movie are lying to themselves. Beyond just going "ok" at you, there's zero reason to engage with you on this topic. This will be the only time I do it.
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Jul 31, 2019 18:43
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LesterGroans posted:Yeah Holy poo poo. I for sure thought they put her in there digitally. Wow.
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Jul 31, 2019 18:45
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iamsosmrt posted:Thats far from a direct quote of what I said. 
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Jul 31, 2019 19:03
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WarEternal posted:The person you replied to is definitely being too hard on old TV, as they put it. I thought he was referring to the stuff where we were seeing Rick act. Which is definitely stylized.
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Aug 1, 2019 03:57
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The funniest thing about "I am the devil and I'm here to do the devil's work," is that you're basically saying "I'm the devil. This is my day job."
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Aug 1, 2019 20:12
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Origami Dali posted:Being paid to get into shape must be great. According to Rob McElhenny it still sucks rear end.
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Aug 2, 2019 04:06
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fishing with the fam posted:Looking forward to the alt history movie where a plane full of Epstein's buddies gets brutally murdered. I don't think Quentin had any connection with Epstein though. And that's 100% not what Weinstein did.
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Aug 2, 2019 22:49
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Serious Party Gods posted:The nice part about seeing it a 2nd time is that you can skip the pumpkin puss/sharon tate theater scene and go have a smoke. That segment is great what's wrong with you?
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Aug 4, 2019 18:28
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LesterGroans posted:Where did you read this? He didn't. He's conflating two stories. Tate's sister was on set, is thanked in the credits, and has gone on record saying she literally cried the first time she saw Robbie in character because it was like seeing her sister again. One of Tate's "friends" that I've never heard of, who also in the same article insists she was SUPPOSED to be in the house that night, but turned down going to dinner, said the "she'd never see her own movie" thing and hated the movie. If she even actually saw the fuckin' thing. She seems like a fame chaser to me.
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Aug 6, 2019 04:04
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gently caress double post.
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Aug 6, 2019 04:04
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Egbert Souse posted:I still think it was a fantasy playing out in Cliff's head and it just got more and more silly as it went on, sort of like Bunuel's The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie with scenes getting progressively more absurd until it turns out to be a dream. It's 100% an event that happened cause it's why the guy from Green Hornet doesn't want Cliff on set for Lancer.
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Aug 9, 2019 07:00
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a new study bible! posted:I saw this movie today after my mother in law dragged us to see a random matinée. After I skipped Hateful Eight and never felt like I was missing anything, I was prepared to not like this movie at all. I honestly considered myself done with Tarantino entirely, but when the movie turns in the last 15 minutes, the word "brilliant" kept echoing in my head. That's obviously an overstatement, but the entire thing is so subversive and clever that I was really pleased. The Manson family were literal white supremacist Nazis. If you're sympathising with them maybe you need to do some introspection.
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Aug 20, 2019 04:40
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BiggerBoat posted:Haven't read the whole thread and just saw the film. I really enjoyed and think Leo should get an Oscar nod. What a loving great movie. Between this, the Irishman and Mindhunter it's been a good month of movies and TV for me. She was blind and incredibly panicked. Also I'm pretty sure even in a pool a flame thrower would basically boil you alive.
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beanieson posted:he killed her He didn't kill her, and misses her, so he orders her drink.
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