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Will AEW survive the year?
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Yes 102 47.66%
No 17 7.94%
Yes after TNA buys it 95 44.39%
Total: 214 votes
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Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Djarum posted:

Weekly TV will help a ton of people out. Hangman has been great on BTE basically since he first appeared. His story with Joey Ryan was fantastic.

Once his personality and how goofy, naturally funny and likeable he is comes out he will be fine.

Huh. Okay. I don't watch BTE so all I know from AEW is these big shows. I guess I was just comparing him to my favorite fanmade hype video for Daniel Bryan: https://vimeo.com/47788981 but if he's a lot more human in non-match scenarios then I'll give him a chance but I still think his look sucks.

Jerusalem posted:

Oh my loving God :stare:

Every Billionaire Is A Policy Failure

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Djarum
Apr 1, 2004

by vyelkin

Taintrunner posted:

Huh. Okay. I don't watch BTE so all I know from AEW is these big shows. I guess I was just comparing him to my favorite fanmade hype video for Daniel Bryan: https://vimeo.com/47788981 but if he's a lot more human in non-match scenarios then I'll give him a chance but I still think his

[quote="Taintrunner" post="496702357"]
Huh. Okay. I don't watch BTE so all I know from AEW is these big shows. I guess I was just comparing him to my favorite fanmade hype video for Daniel Bryan: https://vimeo.com/47788981 but if he's a lot more human in non-match scenarios then I'll give him a chance but I still think his look sucks.

He is genuinely a really good guy in real life too which is not really been publicized.

He was a high school teacher year years until he got a full time tour of Japan in 2016. He was so concerned about the “Hangman” name being seen in a negative light that he made and I believe still makes donations to suicide prevention to offset it. After the whole “you’re fat” gimmick for the lead up to DoN he donated the proceeds from selling his gear to an eating disorder group.

Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008

This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!
Hangman just needs promos. Give him promos to build the feud and he'll be fine.

Lunatic Sledge
Jun 8, 2013

choose your own horror isekai sci-fi Souls-like urban fantasy gamer simulator adventure

or don't?

Cavauro posted:

uno looks like a backyarder named clint who isn't trained and put together some very lovely attire out of what he had laying around. when i say that he looks like poo poo in the future, it's not about his weight. please keep this in mind from now on

counterpoint: I think his mask is really cool

El Generico
Feb 3, 2009

Nobody outrules the Marquise de Cat!
really finding it hard to give a gently caress about marvez being subpar given the state of commentary in tyool 2019, he's not godawful so it's fine

page is good, preshow was good

aew has never had a comedy match as bad as yano/naito was

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

El Generico posted:

aew has never had a comedy match as bad as yano/naito was

What the gently caress

UnlimitedSpessmans
Jul 31, 2015

El Generico posted:

really finding it hard to give a gently caress about marvez being subpar given the state of commentary in tyool 2019, he's not godawful so it's fine

page is good, preshow was good

aew has never had a comedy match as bad as yano/naito was

yano naito was amazing

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer

El Generico posted:

really finding it hard to give a gently caress about marvez being subpar given the state of commentary in tyool 2019, he's not godawful so it's fine

page is good, preshow was good

aew has never had a comedy match as bad as yano/naito was

What the gently caress is wrong with you.

I think Page is fine but the rest what the gently caress.

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

SamuraiFoochs posted:

What the gently caress is wrong with you.

I think Page is fine but the rest what the gently caress.

What was wrong with the preshow? I loved Avalon v Sunny, it was a great undercard comedy match and the crowd was hot for it. The Women's Tag was plenty enjoyable, every woman was over and there were great spots aplenty despite the dead spots and minor botches. I think it would have been truly great if Britt didn't get dazed.

re: Marvez I honestly barely notice him, I don't know why people are so up in arms over him. Excalibur and JR are brilliant so he's easy to tune out.

El Generico
Feb 3, 2009

Nobody outrules the Marquise de Cat!

UnlimitedSpessmans posted:

yano naito was amazing

really? what part of it could possibly have been amazing, i was completely bored by it

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

El Generico loving sucks rear end really bad. the wrestler

UnlimitedSpessmans
Jul 31, 2015

El Generico posted:

really? what part of it could possibly have been amazing, i was completely bored by it

yano, using his master powers of manipulation was able to trick naito into undressing slowly and then keeping his shirt on, which allowed him to hit the most powerful finisher in new japan because he was able to break naito's normal tranquilo demeanour

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

i'm sorry for going nuts on here. getting mad. i can't sleep

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Mod Edit: removed New Japan spoilers

Somebody fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Jul 14, 2019

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

Sanguinia posted:

re: Marvez I honestly barely notice him, I don't know why people are so up in arms over him. Excalibur and JR are brilliant so he's easy to tune out.

poo poo, I'd rather listen to Marvez talk to himself than listen to WWE's regular crew of losers.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

NowonSA posted:

Well F4W has spoken so we can end the Marvez debate once and for all:

Molestationary Store
May 21, 2007

So honeymoon time is over and we're just slagging everything now, huh.

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003



Molestationary Store posted:

So honeymoon time is over and we're just slagging everything now, huh.

Everything bad about AEW is still better than WWE.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
So I updated my W/L spreadsheet (which MRT would put in the OP if he was a friendly person and not a total coward) with tonight's results.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s5jprtpuYerRlJC82es7htUbEcrHCcYTMVq3j9Um00w/edit#gid=1853237752

Some notable trends based off these shows:

-- Hangman Page and The Young Bucks are the only people to wrestle on all three shows and still be undefeated.

-- Of the other wrestlers who worked all three shows and have losses, their results:

Cody (win over Dustin Rhodes, draw with Darby Allin, tag loss to Bucks)
Kenny Omega (loss to Chris Jericho, trios win over Lucha Bros/Laredo Kid, win over CIMA)
CIMA (lost trios match to SCU, win over Christopher Daniels, loss to Omega)
Lucha Bros (lost tag match to Bucks, lost trios match to Bucks/Omega, won tag match over SCU)
Frankie Kazarian/Scorpio Sky (won trios match over Stronghearts, lost tag matches to Best Friends, Lucha Bros)
MJF (lost Casino Battle Royal and fatal four-way match, won trios match over Joey Janela/Jimmy Havoc/Darby Allin)
Jimmy Havoc (lost Casino Battle Royal, lost four-way match, lost trios match to MJF/Shawn Spears/Sammy Guevara)
Joey Janela (lost Casino Battle Royal, loss to Jon Moxley, lost trios match to MJF/Shawn Spears/Sammy Guevara)
Jungle Boy (lost Casino Battle Royal, lost four-way match, lost tag match to Dark Order, Jack Evans/Angelico)
Riho (won trios match over Aja Kong/Yuka Sakazaki/Emi Sakura, won triple threat over Nyla Rose/Yuka Sakazaki, lost tag match to Bea Priestley/Shoko Nakajima)

-- Cody, CIMA, Kenny Omega, Kip Sabian, and Allie are the only wrestlers with multiple singles matches so far. In a coincidence that you can interpret any way you want, they are almost all 1-1 in singles action (the lone exception is Cody with a 1-0-1 record).

-- Best Friends and Young Bucks have the most spotless tag team resume with 2-0 records in pure 2-on-2 tag action.

-- AEW loving loves their trios matches, and I'm not complaining since they've all been bangers. So far, we have 18 men and 6 women recorded in trios action, and none of them in multiple matches yet. Darby Allin, El Lindaman, Laredo Kid, and Emi Sakura have the "honor" of eating pins for their respective teams.

-- The Casino Battle Royal (and most of the people in it) is arguably non-canon, but it did have an important stip with the winner getting a title shot, so I'm including it for posterity's sake.

-- Based on the gimmick at Fyter Fest and the announcers' comments at FTTF, they seem rather committed to the kayfabe of Moxley/Janela being a "lights out non-sanctioned" match, with the result not counting in the official record books. I decided to count it here anyway, because gently caress it, why not.

Lunatic Sledge
Jun 8, 2013

choose your own horror isekai sci-fi Souls-like urban fantasy gamer simulator adventure

or don't?

Dell_Zincht posted:

Everything bad about AEW is still better than WWE.

it's this

marvez isn't bad but he's seated next to two way better commentators, and isn't really necessary in the first place

he has also been replaced on one of the three shows already by a better commentator before being brought back

hangman is a pretty good wrestler and very likeable but he's overshadowed by a lot of other wrestlers lower on the card

Decent to Pretty Good things stand out real hard when everything else is Great to Incredible

Asteroid Alert
Oct 24, 2012

BINGO!
Somehow the whole commentary team seemed off last night. Was it the heat?

Lunatic Sledge
Jun 8, 2013

choose your own horror isekai sci-fi Souls-like urban fantasy gamer simulator adventure

or don't?

Adaptabullshit posted:

Somehow the whole commentary team seemed off last night. Was it the heat?

jim ross sounded excited as gently caress when he arrived and very tired by the end, could be the heat, could be the marvez, dude might just be old but I don't want it to be that

the commentators did seem very aware of the heat

MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug
if too much heat is affecting commentary just put on a hangman page match bing bang boom problem solved

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
These marks need to sign some drat super heavyweights like right now.

MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug
all i require is more Angelico and jack evans. only knew about them in passing before last night and d***

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
bea is a loving star and should be the first womens champ

UnlimitedSpessmans
Jul 31, 2015

DoctorGonzo posted:

bea is a loving star and should be the first womens champ

bea two belts

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

DoctorGonzo posted:

bea is a loving star and should be the first womens champ

But shes not Yuka or Riho

Or Maki Itoh

UnlimitedSpessmans
Jul 31, 2015
maki itoh also needs to be signed and pushed to the very top because she owns.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
Van Vilet Post-Matches are out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdu7Ia_ka8k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSlj5SyqQW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eBampA8gQ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swOy3iVILTs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jFR3aRRsoc

boxcarhobo
Jun 23, 2005

Cavauro posted:

i'm sorry for going nuts on here. getting mad. i can't sleep

dangit cav!!

Mod Edit: Removed New Japan spoilers

Somebody fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jul 14, 2019

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

Marvez is really fuckin' bad and so far out of his depth - if he's someone's son or something he needs to be sent to another department of production where his creepy rear end isn't actively ruining the commentary with gems like "Look at the size of Kong's hands"

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
hmm but have you considered:

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Mr. Carlisle posted:

Marvez is really fuckin' bad and so far out of his depth - if he's someone's son or something he needs to be sent to another department of production where his creepy rear end isn't actively ruining the commentary with gems like "Look at the size of Kong's hands"

Its the other side of nepotism, hes besties with Tony Khan.

boxcarhobo
Jun 23, 2005

it blew my mind when the thread last night told me how he was like a wrestling beat writer for years or something, he sounds like he's seen maybe 10 shows total in his life when he's on the mic


e:also i just found out he was in that kevin costner turd Draft Day, lmao

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Britt was concussed very early on https://twitter.com/RealBrittBaker/status/1150378288986148865

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

I Can’t Believe All Elite Wrestling Is loving Dead

Lead Pipe Cinch
Mar 10, 2003

Heavy Metal Bakesale


This thread eventually goes sideways, but the first couple really sum up the primary issue with Marvez:

https://twitter.com/rosswbermaniv/status/1150249219430727683?s=21

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012


Lotta red flags here.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

NienNunb posted:

I Can’t Believe All Elite Wrestling Is loving Dead

AEW Discussion: See you at the Cross Rhodes

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Power Windows
Dec 29, 2004

Brasky used to ride upon a steed, perchance to spy a lady.

I can't believe we have to wait a month and a half for All Out :negative:

Thank God for the G1

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