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Benne posted:That's why I specified main roster, because if you count NXT and 205 and UK then it's probably a legitimate argument Yeah main roster might be harder but I know they randomly promoted a load of people recently so I can't say for sure
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CarlCX posted:I am absurdly curious about who they consider actual top talents if Seth and Moxley are middle-of-the-pack average. I feel like it's probably Lashley. I actually asked and it wasn't as terrible of a list as you might think other than Roman. KO, Sami, Finn, Nak, Cesaro, Aleister, Ricochet, Andrade, some others. I argued I'd agree on Finn and Nak at their peaks but those dudes are clearly collecting checks at this point, which, fair play to them. And as I pointed out, I'd say I agree it's a logjam around there but that's not a knock on Seth, it's a testament to how goddamn stacked and utterly squandered WWE's roster is. I bet the dude that Mox will still be a Megastar a year from now and that AEW will be meeting or eclipsing TNA's peak in tangible business i.e ratings and buys. I'm very confident in that bet. The fact that someone can watch what Mox is doing and claim it's all just a function of short term buzz that will fade and that he's not actually that talented and that Vince made both Mox and Rollins boggles my loving mind though.
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Jul 15, 2019 06:06
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Mox's post match interview in the G1 with Shota hanging out to the side was better than any interview he had in the WWE in the past year. And it makes him an even bigger star
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Jul 15, 2019 06:11
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At this point you could probably argue that Chinsuke Nakamura is a better worker than 2019 Shinsuke Nakamura and not sound like a crazy person
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Jul 15, 2019 06:12
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sure mox's g1 start has been good but he was carried by taichi who is obv primed to be a future ace, so its really hard to say what the rest of his run is gonna look like
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Jul 15, 2019 06:14
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I actually asked and it wasn't as terrible of a list as you might think other than Roman. KO, Sami, Finn, Nak, Cesaro, Aleister, Ricochet, Andrade, some others. I argued I'd agree on Finn and Nak at their peaks but those dudes are clearly collecting checks at this point, which, fair play to them. And as I pointed out, I'd say I agree it's a logjam around there but that's not a knock on Seth, it's a testament to how goddamn stacked and utterly squandered WWE's roster is. Yeah, that's a pretty reasonable list for a pretty unreasonable position. You do you, weird internet wrestling dude. I have never understood people not seeing star power in Moxley. It was insane when he was in the WWE and making serviceable work out of houseplants, it's particularly insane now.
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Jul 15, 2019 06:27
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CarlCX posted:Yeah, that's a pretty reasonable list for a pretty unreasonable position. You do you, weird internet wrestling dude. This same dude is also insisting, however, that Brock is an "elite heel" and they got the belt off Seth because he was a flop to get someone else beating Brock, likely Roman, and that it's smart. Yeah because that worked the first time.
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Jul 15, 2019 06:43
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Seth's reign being a flop is absolutely true. The problem is that the biggest reason it's a flop will also be there for whoever beats Brock.
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Jul 15, 2019 06:45
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Roman is 100% gonna be the guy that gets that belt off Lesnar.
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TTBF posted:Roman is 100% gonna be the guy that gets that belt off Lesnar. Yeah that’s not even a question at this point.
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Jul 15, 2019 06:46
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why yall talking about bad wrestling in the good wrestling thread
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Jul 15, 2019 06:47
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IDONTPOST posted:why yall talking about bad wrestling in the good wrestling thread Sorry, I brought it up specifically because this dude was poo poo talking AEW (and Mox in particular) while defending Vince. I literally couldn't fathom it and I posted it here because most of the smart people don't really post in the WWE threads anymore. 
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Jul 15, 2019 06:50
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SamuraiFoochs posted:This same dude is also insisting, however, that Brock is an "elite heel" and they got the belt off Seth because he was a flop to get someone else beating Brock, likely Roman, and that it's smart. I've run out of fingers to work out what crowning of Roman this would be
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Lid posted:I've run out of fingers to work out what crowning of Roman this would be This cat is seriously trying to tell me that it's more likely that Vince is playing Twelfth Dimensional Chess and Brock is actually good for business rather than that Brock v. Roman was go away heat and Vince has just lost the plot. Anyway to get back to AEW, what do you guys reckon All Out will do in terms of buyrate?
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Anyway to get back to AEW, what do you guys reckon All Out will do in terms of buyrate? Did the numbers ever actually officially come out for Double or Nothing? I recall hearing something like 100k? Which if true would have been considered a gigantic success?
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Jerusalem posted:Did the numbers ever actually officially come out for Double or Nothing? I recall hearing something like 100k? Which if true would have been considered a gigantic success? 98k. And yes. Haters are arguing that's only because it's shiny and new and will crater once TV starts!
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Jul 15, 2019 07:06
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If All Out matches the I think 113k of Double or Nothing, that'll be great news. That said, I don't think these last two shows did a good job of selling All Out, so I'm gonna
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Jul 15, 2019 07:06
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I have no idea what a weekly show would look like at this point. I don't even know what All Out is going to look like. Is All Out going to be like these free shows in terms of tone and quality? Or is it going to be closer to Double or Nothing which had a more serious tone?
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TTBF posted:I have no idea what a weekly show would look like at this point. I don't even know what All Out is going to look like. Is All Out going to be like these free shows in terms of tone and quality? Or is it going to be closer to Double or Nothing which had a more serious tone? I'll tell you right now I think AO will be much more like DoN. Which, good.
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TTBF posted:I have no idea what a weekly show would look like at this point. I don't even know what All Out is going to look like. Is All Out going to be like these free shows in terms of tone and quality? Or is it going to be closer to Double or Nothing which had a more serious tone? All Out is gonna be a full-on PPV with the $50 price -- these free shows were basically a trial offer for BR Live subscribers. And considering that All Out is a) the de facto anniversary show for AEW, at the same building as All In, b) crowning their first champion, and c)presumably having Omega/Mox, it's a very safe bet that they're taking it seriously. I'm not worried about that show drawing buys.
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Jul 15, 2019 07:54
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i just really wish the bucks would learn how to do a different kind of match tbh
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Jul 15, 2019 07:59
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at least they've moved on from matt getting a back injury that crops up inconveniently during the double sharpshooter spot
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Jul 15, 2019 08:00
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i came into here to say i don't like the young bucks. but there is a negative post about them already as the last post. it was a coincidence
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Jul 15, 2019 08:00
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The Yong Bucks and Kenny haven't impressed me at all yet.
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Jul 15, 2019 08:48
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People who don't like The Young Bucks should just think of them as a delivery system for getting The Lucha Bros on more shows.
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Jul 15, 2019 08:50
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The biggest problem of Young Bucks is that they do good matches, but they make other people (even in other matches) look good.
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Jerusalem posted:People who don't like The Young Bucks should just think of them as a delivery system for getting The Lucha Bros on more shows. give me lucha bros vs best friends, cowards. e: gently caress that give me lucha bros vs gentleman's club, i want to see penta react to orange
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Jul 15, 2019 09:44
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orange cassidy really is zero fear.
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UnlimitedSpessmans posted:orange cassidy really is zero fear. https://mobile.twitter.com/sinzhq/status/1133480690786426882
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Jul 15, 2019 09:48
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i think my favorite part of both of these clips is orange's very very very tiny thigh slap for the superkick after that DEVASTATING combination
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Benne posted:At this point you could probably argue that Chinsuke Nakamura is a better worker than 2019 Shinsuke Nakamura and not sound like a crazy person It's been this way longer than 2019 tbh
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Jul 15, 2019 12:49
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i keep getting juice robinson and orange cassidy mixed up in my head. as far as im concerned they're the same person.
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Seams posted:i keep getting juice robinson and orange cassidy mixed up in my head. as far as im concerned they're the same person. there is a slight difference in their fighting styles
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lost my old email posted:there is a slight difference in their fighting styles Agreed. Cassidy has a much more brutal striking style and better hair.
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Jul 15, 2019 14:08
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The problem with the bucks vs rhodes match is instead of doing what they get over with they tried to do the boring poo poo people stopped caring about decades ago. Invariably the matches that get over are the up tempo matches with memorable spots and another midnight express tribute act is just going to kill the crowd.
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Jul 15, 2019 14:21
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orange Cassidy's gimmick is that he's extremely hungover at all times right
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Jul 15, 2019 14:35
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Reading this thread and discovering people didn't like Rhodes/Bucks is breaking my brain
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Jackie D posted:Reading this thread and discovering people didn't like Rhodes/Bucks is breaking my brain same EDIT: I liked pretty much every match because every match felt different and had different energy and as a total card I think it worked really well EDIT 2 The Editing: I think too many people look at Fight for the Fallen as armchair bookers than as fans Mel Mudkiper fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Jul 15, 2019 |
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Jul 15, 2019 14:41
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Rhodes / Bucks was a good match. The six-way, SCU/Lucha Bros, and Omega/Cima were insane matches though.
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SCU really needs a win because I don't think they have won anything yet
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