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b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
Reporting for duty

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b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
Yeah Idk why this is taking so long to fill up

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
Game when

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Nep-Nep posted:

Confirming pm received!

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
##vote hal sorry buddy

Byers2142 posted:

Lumpen came up TOWN. I want to hear from other people who copped Lumpen; points of convergence are a good way to self-solve.

^Scum rolecop right here

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

Oh yeah that's weird. Are you calling byers a scum role cop or hal?

I copped Hal and received a SCUM result.

I'm calling Byers a scum rolecop that rolecopped lumpen. He knows Lumpen's actual role, in addition to alignment (obviously), and now anyone that provides any result on lumpen will give the scum info into that player's role, which can be used to help prioritize night kills. The logic checks out and there are no other possibilities IMHO.

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
The self cop was not a bad play and I will not be voting nep today

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

chaoslord posted:

If you don’t want to call it bad that’s your business but it’s literally the least good play

Actually the least good play would be voting someone other than confirmed scum Hal.

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
Everyone should post their n1 targets and then we should no lunch.

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Byers2142 posted:

Still waiting for a scum case from you on Hal, in case you missed from the last page.

lol. is this a joke? I already explained that I am voting Hal due to my night result.

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Lumpen posted:

Bold stance for D1, would you please elaborate on why you declare you will definitely not be voting Nep-Nep today?

because i think he is town. i can't see a reason why scum would pull off that sort of gambit on day 1. no way.

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
I was torn between copping Hal and AA. Tonight I'm thinking about investigating a player that copped as scum. Maybe sal or chaoslord.

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Nep-Nep posted:

So according to the spreadsheet I should be copping clord right?

If you cop chaoslord I’ll cop Sal. Or we could both cop chaoslord.

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
##vote humalong I huess

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
Lol

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
Ugh. I got a scum result on byers

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
##vote chaoslord

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
man scum were lucky af hitting the sane cop on n1.

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
##vote AA

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
##vote Harold

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
After consecutive scum results of Hals and Byers, I got a TOWN result on AA.

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
So I’m either insane cop or random.

Would vote AA.

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

GenericGirlName posted:

AA, Nep, and B- can be insane, and no one else can be.

AA and B- both have results that implicate the other, but only one can be true. Right now scum should have enough information to leave us with Binary/Contrarian/Random for end game by fabricating results and killing the Insane cop tonight or even getting town to kill them today.

Yep, I just finished reading lumpens spreadsheets and came to the same conclusion. I think we have a thunderdome situation on our hands. AA vs B- :getin:

If I am lunched and flip random, my results are worthless.
If I am lunched and flip insane, Hal is cleared and AA is nailed as scum.


I know that AA cannot be insane cop because I am town, but I undertsand that you all can't know that until you see one of us flip. Can AA be any role other than insane cop with his results?

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

This is false though. Either of us can be random, insane.

No. I know from your results that you cannot be insane. You copped me as town n0. This is why I am pretty sure you are scum. If you were town, then my town result of you should have ruled out me being the insane cop.

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

You copped me n0 and received a town result, so in my mind that rules you out as insane cop. Obviously I am the only person that can confirm this information because I know I am town-aligned. But I know that I don't need to entertain scenarios in which you are the insane cop. If you are town, then you should have arrived to the same conclusion after seeing my town result of you last night. Instead, you said that either of us can be random or insane, when we both should know that isn't true.

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

Nep if you think you're insane, then that lends credence to the likelihood that B- and myself are contrarian and random.

If I am contrarian, you are random and nep nep is insane, then who is scum?

Hal says he believes he is naive. Who else besides Hal could be naive?

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
Also I am slightly worried that nep nep is scum and fakeclaiming insane cop to protect AA. Yesterday I was fairly certain that I was insane cop and was willing to sacrifice myself in order to nail scum. Because If I actually am insane cop, then my results clear Hal and nail AA. Just something to keep in mind

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

GenericGirlName posted:

SiV can be naive. So in the contrarian/random AA/B- scenario, scum team = (SiV OR Hal) and Sal

Thanks. I suppose naive cop would be a logical fakeclaim for scum

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
alright, let's say we lunch nep-nep and he flips insane cop. That would mean chaoslord/siv is cleared as town, and then Hal is likely scum. Also, that would mean that I'm the random cop, and my results on Hal and AA are worthless. The only other town role Hal could be (I think) is random cop that happened to hit town with each coin flip.

If we lunch nep-nep and he flips random cop, then I could be insane cop. My results would indicate that Hal is town and AA is scum. Alternatively, I could be contrarian cop and my results would be worthless.

If nep-nep flips scum, then I could still be random, insane, or contrarian and AA could be random or scum. Contrarian is ruled out (I think) because he received a scum result last night.

Let me know if any of this is incorrect - I wish I had access to lumpen's spreadsheet :(

Also, I need to go back and check how exactly this was proven, but apparently someone's results indicated that scum visited me early in the game (n0 I think).

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

SalTheBard posted:

We know 100%, irrefutably that Lumpen is the residue cop. Per the OP:
1 Residue Cop, who returns scum results if scum have ever targeted that person. If scum have never targeted that person, returns a town result.

So going off of claimed results from Lumpen

N0 - Copped Hal who came back town. B- also copped Hal that night so to me that clears B- 100% as town. We know this because if any scum player had visited Hal, Hal would've copped scum.

N1 - Copped B- who came back scum. On N0 AA visited B- to cop him. According to the OP if Scum visit a town player at any point they come back scum.

This would mean AA has to be scum OR someone visited B- on N1 and is lying about it. I think though that the easiest answer is that AA is a scum player who Rolecopped B- on N0.

All excellent points.

Would vote AA but that would but him at -1. Will vote when we decide we are ready to move on

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
Want to vote AA

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
##vote AA

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
Woohoo I finally made a good play. I’m only playing Dethy games from now on

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
I don’t have s spreadsheet but I expect to die tonight

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
I think he od’d on coffee and donuts

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
:ghost: :sadwave: :ghost:

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b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
That was a valiant effort, siv.


I like this dethy setup. Is there a reason most of these setups have a cop headstart?

Also, harold lying about his results gave me an idea What if you expanded the game to include a few more played and then added a third scum Falsifier role? Choose a player, they will receive the opposite result as their role normally would receive. Maybe could be a rolecop as well. Just an idea I had. Thanks for running the game

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