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Chalks posted:I think if you ask the question "when did you realise that she was a nazi" I think you have to be pretty specific you're not talking about the point that you realised that she was literally there in WW2 having dinner with Hitler and instead are talking about her being a neo-nazi/alt-right. As someone who's never read the comics, when she's first introduced I it was possible that her name wasn't actually meant to indicate that, given her powers, it's not until the scene in the building where she's clearly enjoying killing the people there that it became obvious to me. In particular her feminist and anti vought comments early on threw me off and made me think they were taking the character in a different direction. That's fair, but this thread will always have posters who have read the comics (I have), and people who have not posting together. Obvious spoiler rules apply, but some people knew going in. Obviously the show is heavily an adaptation, and not a necessarily direct re-telling. Going into the season, I assumed she would be a racist, but it wasn't necessarily obvious to me that she would've been the original dude from the comic with reversed genders. That said, I put her down as 'obvious neo-nazi troll and scheming' around the ending of ep 2, and not just a chud media personality. Her plotline was very interesting in the show, and I appreciated what they did. I'm not from the US, so I didn't get the Portland clue either, nice. Did know about stormfront the forum since I'm terminally online 
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Romes128 posted:I remember when twitter was fawning over her at the beginning of the season and people kept replying with HER NAME IS STORMFRONT lol Haha. I caught a few tweets of (non-racist) girls dying to cosplay as her because they "finally got a strong badass woman" on the show. Yeah. The yikes was huge.
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Oct 29, 2020 06:31
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Yea, that's gotta be a "oh, honey, nnoooooooo" moment for the actress. Like she WANTS to come out and spoil it so they don't waste the time/effort but she kinda can't.
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Oct 29, 2020 09:26
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Desperado Bones posted:Haha. I caught a few tweets of (non-racist) girls dying to cosplay as her because they "finally got a strong badass woman" on the show. Yeah. The yikes was huge. Like parents who named their kid "Daenerys". Never go all in on a character till their arc is finished people.
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Oct 29, 2020 13:01
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jabby posted:Like parents who named their kid "Daenerys". Never go all in on a character till their arc is finished people. At least there's not many people who would think "Stormfront is a lovely name for a girl" who weren't already likely to call their kid that.
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Oct 29, 2020 13:14
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jabby posted:Like parents who named their kid "Daenerys". Never go all in on a character till their arc is finished people. It was funnier when they named them Khaleesi.
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Oct 29, 2020 13:49
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I honestly don’t think dressing up as Stormfront for Comic-Con or whatever is any worse than dressing up as like Darth Vader, you can cosplay villains, or even enjoy villains, without agreeing with their motives. Stormfront was such an effective character because we, the audience, are introduced to her humor and style and wit first, and Cash is extremely charming, so everyone who doesn’t already know who she is gets to like her. I went through the same thing with Spider-Man: Far From Home. As a comics fan, I knew who Mysterio was immediately and so Gyllenhall didn’t soak my panties the way he usually does, but after the movie the friends I’d brought both talked about the impact of his big reveal and his treachery as being huge gut checks.
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Oct 29, 2020 14:09
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i thought having stormfront be in pictures with actual hitler was part of the joke/commentary. she is obviously racist but it takes seeing her with a picture of hitler to convince viewers she is. i think its supposed to be direct parallels to the US today. if it isnt something explicit and obvious people will work around it and still defend it.
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Oct 29, 2020 14:55
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She's a Nazi. "wtf dude how can you jump to that conclusion?!"(Murders PoC) She's a NAZI.  "This is just like when Homelander ditched the plane no witnesses! That term is so overused!"(Literal pictures of her at lunch with Hitler) SHE'S A NAZI  "yes she appears to be a member of the National Socialist German Worker's Party, a historic entity of pure malice! I can safely compartmentalize her evil as a historic fluke!"
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Oct 29, 2020 15:14
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Bust Rodd posted:I honestly don’t think dressing up as Stormfront for Comic-Con or whatever is any worse than dressing up as like Darth Vader, you can cosplay villains, or even enjoy villains, without agreeing with their motives. Nah dude there's a pretty big difference between Darth Vader and an actual Nazi. The Dark Side of the Force is not a real life politicial party that tried to eradicate minority groups for real.
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Oct 29, 2020 16:19
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Stormfront isn’t real either. She’s an electrical super hero who wears a leather body suit.
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Oct 29, 2020 16:21
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Putting on the Nazi Eagle belt and SS earrings and slowly wondering if you're dressing up as the baddies
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Oct 29, 2020 16:22
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Bust Rodd posted:Stormfront isn’t real either. She’s an electrical super hero who wears a leather body suit. The difference is that someone might be a fan of Stormfront unironically.
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Oct 29, 2020 16:23
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Bust Rodd posted:Stormfront isn’t real either. She’s an electrical super hero who wears a leather body suit. It doesn't really matter if the Nazi you're dressing up as is a real Nazi or a pretend one. You're still dressing up as a Nazi.
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Oct 29, 2020 16:23
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Chalks posted:The difference is that someone might be a fan of Stormfront unironically. Which would be weird, since the show goes out of its way to both denigrate and humiliate her and triple down on how lovely and awful and hosed up she is and how much she deserves to be disfigured and roasted... actually just like Darth Vader lol
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Oct 29, 2020 16:31
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also there are plenty of unironic fans of the empire; though I still agree that a character who is an actual literal member of the Nazi party is worse
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Oct 29, 2020 16:34
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Back in the Bush days a writer for I believe National Review wrote a defense of the Empire which is fitting since it was supposed to be a stand-in for the imperialist US.
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Oct 29, 2020 16:41
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Bust Rodd posted:Stormfront isn’t real either. She’s an electrical super hero who wears a leather body suit. This is a really dumb take and if I ever go to a con again after covid is over (lol it's never going away because chuds) I'm going to side-eye the gently caress out of any Stormfront cosplayers.
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Oct 29, 2020 16:51
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ptkfvk posted:i thought having stormfront be in pictures with actual hitler was part of the joke/commentary. she is obviously racist but it takes seeing her with a picture of hitler to convince viewers she is. i think its supposed to be direct parallels to the US today. if it isnt something explicit and obvious people will work around it and still defend it. yeah, this. the Hitler photo is where they grab you by the shoulders and shake and scream at you. "do we have to just come out and say it? you couldn't take the hint?!?!" i liked that they had Stormfront bring up Pewdiepie at one point because he's one of those sneaky "just kidding bro" media types that dog whistle nazi poo poo and then try to walk it back.
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Oct 29, 2020 18:03
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StashAugustine posted:also there are plenty of unironic fans of the empire; though I still agree that a character who is an actual literal member of the Nazi party is worse Defiance Industries posted:It doesn't really matter if the Nazi you're dressing up as is a real Nazi or a pretend one. You're still dressing up as a Nazi. I mean... people will do what they do but realize that, at the end of the day Defiance Industries posted:It doesn't really matter if the Nazi you're dressing up as is a real Nazi or a pretend one. You're still dressing up as a Nazi. And you are going to piss some people off, make others feel weird/bad and make the worst kind of trash people say "right on brother." Even if you are one of the groups going in the ovens maybe dressing like a nazi isn't the best idea. At least until real nazis aren't a growing trend. Also... this attached pic? From a goonmeet in '04. Don't do this either. Ironically being racist is still racist.
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Oct 29, 2020 18:10
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Uhh maybe don’t cosplay as the literal nazi character.
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Oct 29, 2020 18:20
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Romes128 posted:Uhh maybe don’t cosplay as the literal nazi character. 
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Oct 29, 2020 18:22
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Romes128 posted:Uhh maybe don’t cosplay as the literal nazi character.
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Oct 29, 2020 18:30
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Is that from the sexy Hitler thread that originally ended FYAD?
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Oct 29, 2020 18:33
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Solice Kirsk posted:Is that from the sexy Hitler thread that originally ended FYAD? It's a little nicky cosplay
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Oct 29, 2020 18:42
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Well now we have to decide whether Adam Sandler movie cosplay is really a step up
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Oct 29, 2020 19:33
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Solice Kirsk posted:Is that from the sexy Hitler thread that originally ended FYAD? wait what?
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Oct 29, 2020 20:25
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As I understand it, during The Troubles FYAD got reopened under the expectation that they would stop harassing the rest of the forums (this was largely not happening anyways, but that's another saga). So FYAD immediately started a "squeezing Hitler's sexy boobs and rear end" thread as a joke about being called capital "N" nazis by a pack of crazies, as would be expected. Said pack of crazies discovered the sexy Hitler thread and spun that into them being "for realsies Nazis here's the proof" and Lowtax, in his infinite wisdom, declared the subforum dead and buried and then went on Vice declaring it was filled with actual mini-Hitlers. edit: I'm sure there's more people that have way more insight into it than that, but that's about all I know about it.
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Oct 29, 2020 22:54
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There was also the real smoking gun: 
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Oct 29, 2020 23:02
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DogsInSpace! posted:Still weirds me out how popular the First Order is with Disney Parks. Lots of videos of them doing propaganda talk and kids are right on point. I mean.... it's fictional but still....am I the only one disturbed? Why does fascism appeal to many people and should we be just tossing our kids into it like its nothing? I'm reminded of all the "choose your side" advertising they did, where you are supposed to choose between the good guys or the goose marching genocidal fascist analogs. They went really hard into the storm troopers and first order stuff. I mean I guess it's a recognizable aesthetic that they can have a bunch of people dress up as in their park, but still.
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Oct 29, 2020 23:18
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Bust Rodd posted:Stormfront isn’t real either. She’s an electrical super hero who wears a leather body suit. The Red Skull isn't real either but if someone was cosplaying as him buddy I'd definitely be casting a hard side-eye.
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Oct 30, 2020 03:15
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So, I just got finished with season 2, and please tell me that there's more to the comic.
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Oct 30, 2020 05:18
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Uh... Define more.
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Oct 30, 2020 05:30
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Stairmaster posted:Uh... Define more. Season 3 material. We won't be wandering into late game of thrones territory.
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Oct 30, 2020 05:34
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The comic is finished but is incredibly divergent from the show in tone, and story content.
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Oct 30, 2020 05:37
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Season 3 material. We won't be wandering into late game of thrones territory. They change a lot of the comic content from like the first issue on. It's not possible to use it as a gauge as to what's coming up. The comic is very different from the show. Read it if you're interested, but it's really edgelordy.
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Oct 30, 2020 05:41
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The comic has some possible hooks the series can follow up on (and will, considering some spoilers) but yeah, it's basically its own thing now. IMHO it's a way better thing too.
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Oct 30, 2020 05:52
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We can’t go into late Game of Thrones territory because The Boys actually has competent writers.
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Oct 30, 2020 07:21
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Bussamove posted:We can’t go into late Game of Thrones territory because The Boys actually has competent writers. "A visitor mentioned that we haven't seen Hughie's mother and that it would be dramatic if Stormfront was his mom, this year Dave Hill is a writer for the boys"
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Oct 30, 2020 07:30
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Not only is the show heavily divergent from the comics, but they also actively subvert certain expectations those familiar with the comics might have, Stillwell being an obvious example. I also cant help but feel that they're setting up Hughie to get fridged (in service of Starlight's character) by getting suckered by Not-AOC. And he's the main character & audience analogue in the comics. Neurolimal fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Oct 30, 2020 |
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