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SardonicTyrant posted:I mean, Stormfront could be satire of influencer culture and also a neo-nazi. It could be both! I'm only vaguely aware of "influencer culture" as such. What is she doing in the show that satirizes it? e. I thought influencer culture was all the dumb product review & brand pimping-type videos but I guess it's like a meta version where you yourself are the product? unlimited shrimp fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Sep 9, 2020 |
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FilthyImp posted:As a reminder of how stupid or how much bad faith people post with She's not an SJW but all the people calling her a literal Nazi are going to be disappointed when they find out she's just a Third Way Democrat.
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Sep 9, 2020 20:37
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I think anyone who doesn't see that Stormfront's murders in the apartment were racially motivated is being a contrarian, but what does remain to be seen is whether the writers are going to do anything interesting with it, or if she'll just be a cookie cutter white supremacist. The character up to that point gives me hope for some interesting satire/commentary but who knows. edit: like I'm hoping it's more interesting than "what if a millenial social media star was ALSO a secret nazi???" unlimited shrimp fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Sep 10, 2020 |
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Sep 10, 2020 21:40
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As Nero Danced posted:That's how the alt right works. They couch their racism to make it more palatable to a broader audience to pull people in, make them think it's all about self-actualization when really it's just a screen for racism. Not really. It's not like she was shown to be making oblique references to right wing talking points, or trying to rationalize her bigotry. If you weren't primed by her name or comics knowledge then the apartment incident was a real heel turn. Avasculous posted:I'm really hoping they don't connect her feminism or other progressiveness to being a secret Nazi and give the alt-right a meme to blast out every time someone mentions Elizabeth Warren.
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Sep 10, 2020 22:58
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Avasculous posted:What makes you think he would be able to identify those sites? lol edit: Victis posted:Listen, the actual Nazi that founded the company is surely a red herring unlimited shrimp fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Sep 11, 2020 |
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Sep 11, 2020 00:30
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I'm having flashbacks to when the concluding novel of an obscure fantasy series finally dropped and a single goon's tireless pedantry ruined the thread for everyone and killed the enthusiasm for discussion.
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Sep 11, 2020 02:12
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Mooktastical posted:So Stormfrontis definitely Liberty. This show isn't trying to beat some prediction on Reddit ala Westworld, but laying a coherent groundwork for a hopefully satisfying payoff. I haven't seen all of Supernatural, but I like what I did see. Kripke knows how to tell a story properly. Vought is Lady Liberty calling it now.
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Sep 12, 2020 04:14
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That Italian Guy posted:
It's okay to feel bad for the rabid dog that needs to be put down, especially if it got rabies because its owner was a negligent sack of poo poo.
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Sep 12, 2020 04:37
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Rabid creatures can't help themselves. Homelander is a sentient being who chooses to inflict himself on people because he believes he's a god. Vought ideally wanted him controllable, so I doubt they inculcated that in him, they just went Full Montessori on him because no one in their right mind wanted to get near a superpowered kid/teenager with no moral compass. For myself, Homelander doesn't get a reprieve just because he had a poo poo childhood, but his poo poo childhood at least provides the context to move beyond a good/evil binary. Also I'm buzzed so I'll be a shithead and say that arguing Homelander is evil qua evil is the more fascistic interpretation of his character 
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Sep 12, 2020 04:59
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Kwatz posted:Apologies, but what does “evil qua evil” mean? Homelander is just "evil", no further explanation needed idk i read Waiting for Godot once and it was a word there
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Sep 12, 2020 05:32
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Starks posted:That’s a lot of letters and words drat dude its like two uncommon letters and then the "alpha" in alphabet edit: oh you mean Elephant Ambush i mean let's just all exalt in their enjoyment of the show ok
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Sep 12, 2020 05:40
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Nuebot posted:I'm kind of surprised that the one thing no one really talks about is the way Butcher just "gently caress you, got mine"'d out on the rest of The Boys and did so deliberately when the only one around was MM, who wouldn't try beating his rear end for it. I just chalked it up to sloppy writing because it was so amicable.
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Sep 12, 2020 06:37
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Yes.
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Sep 12, 2020 06:42
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I mean I can see giving him a pat on the shoulder & best wishes but I would never, ever, under any circumstances whatsoever, let him back in.
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Sep 12, 2020 06:43
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Piell posted:How are people this loving bad at reading obvious clues and blatant statements? Most likely, but then what does that do for the narrative/what are they trying to set up for the finale or Season 3? Her being Liberty's daughter is much more tidy than her being Liberty or being a clone. I could see it being a bait & switch depending on where they want the story to go, especially with the whole Homelander's Son plotline happening in parallel.
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Sep 12, 2020 16:53
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piL posted:Why? Because if she's Liberty then they have to explain how she's so long-lived and how it is that her powers have changed, and the consequences of that for characters past and present. If she's a clone then there's all the implications that ago along with that. If she's Liberty's daughter then it doesn't introduce any new variables into the story, the "twist" would just be that Homelander's son isn't unique. It's not about subverting expectations, I'm just hoping they don't fall into the trap Heroes fell into where they chase "cool" until the writing becomes hamhanded and stupid trying to put the genie back in the bottle with some plotlines & character powers. edit. Those "have"s are in quotations obviously, maybe they just don't deal with the implications either way.
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Sep 12, 2020 17:39
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sliami posted:Do you think the Liberty twist is like ... Too Cool To Be True or something. Like is that too contrived for you? In this show? I'm enjoying nerding out about a show.
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Sep 12, 2020 19:35
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Yeah, to restate my point, I think the good money is on her being Liberty but I can also see why they might not do that. After how strongly it was telegraphed, the twist would be that she's not Liberty, not that she is Liberty. Also Jesus Christ do we all have PTSD from the culture wars or something? Bullshitting and thinking out loud is one of the best parts of following a show.
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Sep 12, 2020 23:34
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Tip posted:I've seen someone posit this, but I'm not sure if it was here. I'm kinda expecting for it to be true, and for it to somehow dovetail with Homelander's weird mommy/lactation fetish. She already implied he can come back for sex in that scene together. Stormfront dont gently caress your son
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Sep 13, 2020 00:40
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I want to see more of the B team. We got many more non-Seven supes last season.
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Sep 13, 2020 04:48
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crepeface posted:frenchie + kimiko are boring the gently caress out of me.
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Sep 13, 2020 20:36
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Pippi Longstocking didn't seem like that old a reference because I remember the books being in a scholastic book order around the time a cartoon about the character came out. This was Canada in the mid-90s though.
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Sep 14, 2020 13:06
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Stormfront's one of Voughts ur-supers then, right? Like WW2 era.
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Sep 14, 2020 13:44
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Elephant Ambush posted:This is sexist as hell. There are tons of people who exist in real life that were raised by single parents regardless of gender and turned out fine. The idea that every child needs two parents, one with traditionally masculine traits and another with traditionally feminine traits is comically outdated. I think they meant because the kid is being raised in isolation from the rest of society, not necessarily that it's because he's being raised by a single mom. Personality traits are highly heritable though so I wonder which direction they'll go with the kid, if the kid's development becomes a plotline. He could be a good egg because mom socialized him well, or he could latch on to his isolation & estrangement and his Homelander side could surface.
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Sep 14, 2020 19:59
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4000 Dollar Suit posted:Man, seeing that woman's bro's face after liberty killed him gave me flashbacks to the bottle scene from Pan's Labyrinth. My first thought was Emmett Till but modeling the CGI or makeup or whatever after that photo would be ghoulish.
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Sep 14, 2020 21:05
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I don't know what would be worse, not having powers or being a c-list superfailure.
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Sep 14, 2020 22:00
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:Becca says "when I found out I was pregnant I went to Vought, not you" should be the end of the conversation in regards to Butcher's disposition, but then again half of the people watching TV and movies seem media illiterate. ugh I hate her she's worse than Skyler
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Sep 16, 2020 21:22
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It's conceivable to me that the military would not tolerate a weapon it couldn't control, especially when it's already the most powerful military on Earth.
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Sep 16, 2020 21:58
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In his phone conversation with Butcher, did Hughie slip in that they think Stormfront killed the CIA woman? What's he basing that on?
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Sep 19, 2020 15:18
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I haven't re-watched Season 1 so can someone please remind me -- To what extent do the supes go out and "fight crime" versus do promotional stunts and star in media franchises?
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Sep 21, 2020 19:17
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Dpulex posted:SAIL AWAY SAIL AWAY SAIL AWAY Uncomfortable mid-90s flashbacks.
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Sep 26, 2020 05:59
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I bet it's Giancarlo Esposito because he's got growing notoriety as an actor, we haven't seen him in a few episodes, they're not going to introduce a new Big Bad in the last episode, and he's obviously in cahoots with Stormfront.
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Oct 3, 2020 05:45
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Miss Broccoli posted:hi im an episode behind and im not gunna read any more but holy gently caress how did any of you dorks stand by this oval office of a poster They've been a thread pariah since episode 2 you self-righteous idiot. Either gently caress off or lurk more. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Oct 3, 2020 05:59
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Miss Broccoli posted:him being a nazi, anger Thank you so much for taking the time to educate us.
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Oct 3, 2020 06:09
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Miss Broccoli posted:cis bigots have such fragile little egos. Thank you so much. Thank you.
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Oct 3, 2020 06:16
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AcidCat posted:Well the first episode certainly brought us all up to speed on what The Boys is about. It was probably a mistake to try to eat dinner while watching, but I'm down with this sick nonsense. Our popcorn went down not great. At least they didn't Richard Gere it.
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Jun 4, 2022 06:26
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Nuebot posted:The theme they seem to be going hard on, so far, to my dumb eyes at least is power. What with multiple people basically looking at the camera and talking about who, really, has power and the long shots of homelander looking ready to blow a gasket any time he's shown to be impotent and powerless because the only people who listened to him were those lower on the corporate ladder than he was. Meanwhile you have Hughie acting like a turd when he feels weak and helpless next to his awesome girlfriend and the stability of his new life gets rugpulled out from under him, trying to reclaim control and power of his life in the only way he knows how to anymore, and has since season one. Culminating with Butcher unsubtly becoming the very thing he hates in pursuit of a thing that, allegedly, will give him the power to kill all those people who are stronger than he is complete with someone telling him he's just like that guy he also hates: his dad. The cynical thing is that, at least as of the end of episode 3, Butcher is correct. Vought has been playing them like fiddles, the regulatory agency for dealing with superhuman excess is bought & paid for, and there is no humane solution to a problem like Homelander. So far the message of the show seems to be "don't be lovely or sadistic as you dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed."
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Jun 8, 2022 16:32
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Starks posted:Bust is right about the grammar thing even though I don’t like this season. First two eps were decent but the third one has me skeptical about the rest. Someone in the CSPAM thread was making a similar point. As amusing as these episodes have been, we're heavily re-treading old territory so far. Hey folks, did you know that Homelander is a mad dog on a fraying leash?
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Jun 9, 2022 18:25
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yeah and I'm hoping this season goes in interesting directions, but I'm kind of getting "Goku powers up for 8 episodes" vibes. I'm sure the payoff will be great but how many more scenes of Homelander being a creepy malicious bully are we in for before the plot advances for him?
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Bussamove posted:This season has gone strained attempt at “normalcy”>inciting incident>breaking point>first full mask-off public display>declaration that he’s finally free to do whatever he wants in three episodes, I’m really confused how that could be construed as spinning its wheels. I guess you're right. "A subset of white males like his ubermensch spiel" feels like a minor escalation relative to the violence and depravity we've already seen from him, however. By this point, I'm ready for Homelander Unbound; I don't need to see the three or four scenes where the rust belt chuds stare too long into the abyss.
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