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He's weening himself off, obviously. Just some teething problems. I genuinely love that the show's most pointed criticism of superheroes is that they're, essentially, a comfortable fantasy for emotionally stunted people who are looking for salvation or comfort or any of that nostalgia poo poo, and that it does this by turning Superman into a literal swaddling fetishist. Goo goo gaa gaa drink your milk and superhero pap. Waaaaa.
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Dec 10, 2019 11:29
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Mmm warm glass of lady mucus.
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Dec 10, 2019 22:08
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She's called Stormfront and has an iron eagle on her belt buckle. She's absolutely a nazi.
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Mar 10, 2020 09:09
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Amazon was apparently really awkward about the attention that The Man In The High Castle got, hence wrapping that show up so fast and it might explain why they commissioned Hunters. Maybe they wanted to avoid the public attention that a satirical (but ironic) representation of a literal nazi ubermensch might bring.
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Mar 10, 2020 12:42
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They were also behind Futureman, which is basically a comic book adaptation even though there's no direct source material. They've got a pretty good thing going on with their four shows.
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Mar 10, 2020 21:25
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Jedit posted:Between that and Providence, I feel that Jacen Burrows needs to be on some kind of watch list. Providence was very very good though. Burrows' really chilly art style worked there pretty well I thought.
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Mar 11, 2020 00:24
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We're just not even bothering with spoiler boxes anymore, right?
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Mar 11, 2020 04:21
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Jedit posted:You might want to think twice before telling us how much you loved the book with literal child pornography, Sparky. Yeah I'm blanking on that tbh Edit: oh wait, yeah I remember. That was mega hosed up on many many levels. Open Source Idiom fucked around with this message at 09:39 on Mar 11, 2020 |
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Mar 11, 2020 09:36
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Preacher The Show is very different to the comics. I really liked it, particularly the show's anthological approach, though I also thought the show made some really weird moves at times. Usually for the best, but sometimes not so much. At it's best it's a clever, but mean, Tarantino pastiche, with a lot of magical realism and weirdness. At its worst it's an omphaloskeptic mess. (Early Season 4, I'm looking at you). Strong ending though. That Italian Guy posted:Imagine if the first act of MiB1 was a 10h long miniseries instead of 30mins of a movie and you would have a good idea of what I'm talking about. That's a shame, tbh. I thought the first season was definitely the best.
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Jun 20, 2020 14:10
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Bust Rodd posted:What the gently caress to be, or have the qualities of, a navel-gazer It's a dumb little word, particularly since it resembles itself, but I kind of like it. I don't particularly love words, but I reckon everyone's got one weird one up their sleeves, and that's mine haha
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Jun 20, 2020 14:26
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precision posted:Yeah I love Ruth Negga but her default American accent is reeeeeally over the top "well hoot an holler giddyup cheeseburger assault rifle yeehaw!" She sounded different in SHIELD. I reckon she picked it because she felt it fit the character and the tone the show was going for.
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Jun 23, 2020 09:36
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etalian posted:Can we agree that casting Karl Urban as Butcher was a stroke of genius? He also brings the t, which is something this show would fall apart without.
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Aug 17, 2020 13:24
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Does anyone remember all the posts suggesting that maybe Stormfront wouldn't be a Nazi? As if.
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Sep 7, 2020 05:59
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boo_radley posted:I wonder if the scientologists-analog will wind up being a major player. They strike me as a Season Three thing. Minor satirical player this season, presaging a bigger villain turn next season.
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Sep 7, 2020 07:07
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That Italian Guy posted:Extremely hidden (spoiled for nazism) Because he wrote an evil Nazi being evil?
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Sep 9, 2020 10:38
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:For example: the Raynor character in the comics hates Butcher, but also cheats on her husband with him constantly even though she despises him because Billy Butcher's dick is just that good. How are we, the audience, supposed to square that with the "Butcher is a fascist bad guy" reading? Because that's what's attractive about fascism and toxic masculinity. Fash boys want to be the biggest swingingest dick in the room, they want to take and own and destroy and act without consequence. That's the appeal. Why do you think the comic's called "The Boys"?
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Sep 9, 2020 12:03
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Bust Rodd posted:
People were walking up to JK Simmons on the streets, congradulating him for "keeping up the good fight". This was back in the 90's, when he was playing Schillinger, a Nazi gang leader, on Oz. It's not a new phenomena.
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Sep 9, 2020 14:05
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Keltar posted:About Stormfront, is she a racist piece of poo poo? Definitely. Based in Portland, which has quite the history with racist. Named Stormfront which is a term alt right racist love to use and is a site for them, the place they kinda flocked to before that? Yeah I think this problem has already been solved.
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Sep 12, 2020 01:50
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Alastor_the_Stylish posted:
It's a clever fantasy solution, but it sort of undermines the performance enhancement metaphor - and could give rise to a potentially tedious possessed-by-organ-transplant plotline.
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Sep 19, 2020 06:02
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I reckon the Deep's plot is going to largely be set up for next season. I'm not sure Vought can survive into the next season without directly introducing an outside party for them to go up against. (Marvel vs DC, corporate mergers and monopolies). Perhaps a cult isn't the best vessel for that, but I figure some sort of opposition has to come from somewhere. The Deep's subplot is blatantly an exercise in marking time, but it feels pretty fun. Binary Logic posted:my wild theory: Butcher is also a supe, but he doesn't realize it yet. This ep he was beat up in a bar brawl, got kicked in the head and body multiple times, and only had a little bruise under one eye, then almost immediately recovered and was back in business. Bigger twist: he's been secretly dosing.
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Sep 20, 2020 14:05
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Bioshuffle posted:None of the characters give off any transphobic vibes. Ah, you're the expert on transphobia, rather than the trans* posters in this thread. Makes sense.
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Sep 28, 2020 02:25
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Lote posted:Cindy destroys Vought HQ killing tons of people allowing Homelander to gain more power. Homelander kills Maeve when she tries to blackmail him. They're not gonna kill a queer woman.
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Sep 29, 2020 07:58
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I 100% expected Stormfront to fry Becca the moment Homelander and their kid flew off. I hope the season ends with Becca injecting V and going to town on Stormfront. Though, at this rate, it's going to be the entire female cast.
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Oct 3, 2020 07:41
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It's also just a spooky trope. I reckon people are over signifying. Occam's razor suggests that it's Cindy, but at the end of the day it's not really that interesting a question. Uhh to me anyway. I'm more interested in how the country at large is going to react to the mass murder, rather than who did it.
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Oct 4, 2020 06:54
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Babe Magnet posted:yeah it's not like it's actually all that important I'm just curious, I got a buddy who's a Tiny Supe theorist and he didn't have a reply to that question so I was wondering if anyone else who thought that here would have something lol I meant the staring at camera thing. I'm not on the tiny supe train, but man, if that's the case then more power to your elbow.
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Oct 4, 2020 07:00
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I try and I try, but I just can't get past Karl Urban's accent in this. John Nobel's wasn't much better, but it's at least consistent with his son's.
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Oct 4, 2020 07:19
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:I mean yeah people do that in real life but when you have a lingering shot of someone looking at the feed, then a slow zoom as they look up at it all menacingly at the precise moment they start watching them, then cut back to a confused reaction, that's pretty basic visual literacy stuff. It's a very deliberate series of shots that in combination are meant to communicate something to the viewer beyond "she just happened to look at the camera." She also had no idea anything was wrong at that point - they'd snuck in and silently killed the guard but it hadn't gone off the rails yet. But, like, this happens all the time in TV and film, and I've never seen it be the case that the person on the other end was aware they were being watched, or capable of sending head explosion magic through the camera lens. (Which, uh, why didn't she?) If it turns out to be foreshadowing, then awesome, but you can forgive everyone else for lumping it in with all the other times it was just generic spookiness.
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Oct 4, 2020 07:23
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jabby posted:Homelander got his most human moment in my opinion when he confronted Becca about how she was raising Ryan. It's tough to avoid the fact that he's absolutely right, raising Ryan that way is going to gently caress him up. When she tell him they can raise Ryan together and he can't answer because he might start crying, Starr nailed it yet again. I thought Shantel VanSanten was excellent too. There's a moment of self-awareness where you see that she realises that all the drama has (completely understandably) pushed her to an irrational place, and that she's effectively arguing something she doesn't quite believe in, but she also knows she has to argue something -- anything -- to stop something even worse happening. It's heartbreaking. Edit: Oh hey, add her to the show's list of Timeless alumni. She plays a key role in the show's pilot.
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Oct 4, 2020 12:34
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jabby posted:So far Butcher's whole thing is that revenge means blood. I can't see him trusting in congress to take down Vought. While the most interesting choice is for it to be Butcher, I'm not sure he'd stage an attack like that and not take on Homelander / Stormfront. Perhaps he's saving Homelander for himself? If I had to pick a character that isn't the obvious one, I'd pick Butcher.
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Oct 4, 2020 13:06
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See: this thread's love for Homelander, also a rapist.
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Oct 4, 2020 22:07
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Fair enough, and I absolutely choose to believe that's true in most cases. I dunno, maybe I've been burnt by all the Breaking Bad threads that adored Walt, or the Mad Men threads that loved Don.
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Oct 4, 2020 22:17
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He's still a thing. But I've made no real effort to work out how much a thing he is. He's still big with a lot of people.
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Oct 5, 2020 13:37
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Bust Rodd posted:The darkest part of the E7 cold open is that the writers went to pains to illustrate that he loved his mother. These xenophobic psychos really think they are protecting their loved ones. I think that's what I struggled with the most with the opening. There's a kind of viewer who's going to walk away feeling sorry for Neal. He's the kind of guy who doesn't get the girl, he's the kind of guy who dreams big, who sacrifices for his family, who makes one honest mistake. Blah blah blah, the whole shebang. Realistically, a lot of these guys do think these things, but they also just kind of want to kill people. To them it's a heroic fantasy against a demonic villain (or, you know, one that's easily demonisable), and it allows them to exercise their feelings of powerlessness. But it's also the kind of power fantasy the show is inextricably linked to, and that doesn't rest easily with me. HppyCmpr posted:Edit: I have had friends that have fallen down the white supremacy and conspiracy theory rabbit hole due to factors like isolation or social awkwardness and dragging them back out of it was a long and difficult process. Most of them started down the path because of underlying concerns or inequalities they felt; whether real or imagined. It is very difficult for them to hold to those beliefs once you make them see behind the curtain though. I'd genuinely appreciate advice with this. I've got one or two friends I worry about sometimes.
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Oct 6, 2020 14:52
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That coffee store fixed its front window up really fast. All of one day to replace the glass? Vought's an efficient operation. sponges posted:Yeah, he is. Butcher's British accent is hilarious. It's really bad. John Noble's is bad too, though Mrs. Patmore is mostly fine.
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Oct 8, 2020 11:26
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Bust Rodd posted:The “orcs are coded as black people” thing always struck me as a “telling on yourself” kind of situation. I played dungeons and dragons in a multi-racial environment in a major city at the LGS and it was only after years of playing with POC IRL that I saw that kind of attitude online, and the black players in my group felt more insulted by the idea that other players think Orcs look like black people are than by the idea that Orcs might be based on black people. Where do you stand on gollywog? The character was created as a tadpole person, but was co-opted by popular culture in a way that led to the spread of blackface, and is the likely origin of the formerly*-derogatory term "wog". *At least in my community. No idea about others. No offence intended.
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Oct 8, 2020 13:43
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Megillah Gorilla posted:I hate to be the one to break this to you, but you definitely do in the UK and Australia. Switzerland too. They're a weird object though, since they're explicitly involved in a bunch of racist discourse, but their origin - Noddy I think - isn't racist at all. It's kind of like a Swastika. You start waving one around, you're definitely a racist. But they're IIRC Hindu.
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Oct 8, 2020 16:22
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Dr Christmas posted:I read in a season one interview that what would be Homelander's last scene this season was something they wanted to do then, but weren't going to push it past the censors. I don't believe it was the finale, and the story was that they filmed it but were told to cut it. I suspect they just reused the material here rather than reshot it. IIRC, the intention was for the scene to be more graphic, so they ended up compromising anyway.
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Oct 10, 2020 06:23
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BurritoJustice posted:Maeve is canonically the second strongest supe in the show, and there is a deleted scene in season 1 where he says that they are the two at the top above everyone else like gods Except emotionally, which is her great tragedy.
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Oct 11, 2020 12:59
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Bust Rodd posted:Contact loving lenses. If I were a Congresswoman whose incredible brain-exploding power was only revealed by the milky consistency of my eyes, I would simply buy cosmetic contact lenses to cover it up. These are real things and people are bending over backwards to act like the head popping eye cloudiness is somehow going to break the whole thing wide open And she didn't wear them during her other assassination because? I mean, it's obvious why she had cloudy eyes later and was fine earlier. It's just the narrative having to convolute itself to hide a twist (or convolute itself to establish a revelation later; potato potahto). It's just a fictional conceit. The thread might as well be asking why she randomly mutated to have weird cloudy eyes that activate when she wants to blow heads up, or why she'd blow up the head of a famous religious leader when she's meters away in broad daylight. It's just narrative contrivance.
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Oct 13, 2020 12:41
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Bust Rodd posted:5th: wait, uh, this more or less confirms Stormfront returning for S3? Aya is speaking here as though she's still... on the show? AWESOME! This would have been recorded during the press junket back in uhh August? So she'd have had to pretend she was coming back, even if she knew she wasn't. It's nonconclusive.
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Oct 14, 2020 14:33
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