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 Dropped this past evening on Prime. Based on the comics series by Garth Ennis and Darick Robertson. Effortpost incoming, but I figured I'd make a thread to discuss this new show. In the show supes are beloved yet (mostly) corrupted by their own celebrity, and are pitted against a group of vigilantes that are trying to take them down at all costs. If you're saying 'I read the comic, I'm good', then strap in. It takes the main concept from the books but remixes it in ways that are interesting and (imo) even better than the comic) LadyPictureShow fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Jul 26, 2019 |
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Ep 8 spoilers: Holy loving laffo A-Train taken out by For 'changed from the source material' do you mean Rebecca and Homelander's son being alive? If so, very yes because in the comics part of Billy's origin story was his wife was raped by HL; he only found out when the superpowered fetus burst out of her stomach and he beat it to death which was peak Ennis.
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Jul 27, 2019 06:17
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. Was that changed from the source material? It definitely feels like it was changed, along with the spoiler I mentioned for episode 8.
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Hamelekim posted:Wondering what they replaced the 14+ inch long dong in red tights with. Also WTF random BILLY ZANE background cameo in ep7
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Jul 27, 2019 08:20
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freckle posted:he was also in the movie with popclaw that a-train watched after she was dead Hahaha holy poo poo, that WAS him!
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Jul 27, 2019 08:25
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NutritiousSnack posted:Wrong, You mean Black Noir. A big thing about Homelander was that he wasn't a rapist ever, and his mental collpase from vapid celebrity to insane monster was because of his clone/Black Noir sending him pictures of Black Noir raping women, eating babies, and other poo poo from his clone going insane from his own failed programing to kill Homerlander Did you miss the part of the page that it was previously discussed? I'm fine with them not going after other groups yet; they mention enough of them this season, and I never cared for 'this team is lovely...' 'this team is also lovely...' stuff. I'm wondering if next season they'll spend any time on Tek-Knight they investigated him in a murder case; and he had a compulsion where he couldn't stop loving things (due to a fist-sized brain tumor)
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Jul 27, 2019 13:56
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:quick question, how rapey is this show? Waaaaaay toned down, thankfully. In the first episode The Deep coerces Starlight to give him a blowjob (off-screen) and they keep that part with Billy's wife.
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Jul 27, 2019 17:35
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ChuckDeNomolos posted:i wonder if we get M.M.'s origin from the books on screen. especially his brother. I thought his brother's back story was the saddest thing. I wouldn't be surprised if they said that he had been an early V-baby but changed MM's story, because it was reeeeeeal weird.
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Jul 27, 2019 23:51
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Bert Roberge posted:I tried to go back and read the comic and it is horrendous. The art looks godawful too. I do miss the big goofy bulldog though. After the plane episode, I looked up the corresponding issue, and... yeesh. On one hand, the comic showed just how disorganized The Seven were, on the other hand... Ennis. E: I knew Translucent wasn't in the comic, but Hell, I couldn't even remember Jack From Jupiter was the seventh member in the comics. I wonder if they'll try to bring him in in S2. LadyPictureShow fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Jul 28, 2019 |
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Jul 28, 2019 15:06
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tino posted:What happens with this part? You guys can go ahead can spoiler the comic for me. I want to know. In the comics, it turns out that Black Noir is a clone of Homelander. And he's an absolute sociopath. HL's shown pictures of himself, like, mutilating people and eating a baby, and starts cracking up, like 'Huh, I guess I did it but don't remember...'. BN was the one doing that.
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Jul 28, 2019 16:18
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Zaphod42 posted:
One thing I do like as far as the dumb hero names in the comic/show is how the various groups have names that fit what group they're a pastiche of. Like, the Seven are clearly based off of the golden age Justice League, so they have goofy names that evoke what a comic character created in the 40s would probably be called, like Lamplighter and Mr. Marathon. Teenage Kix in the book had 'edgy' more 90s names like Shout-Out and Whack Job.
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Jul 29, 2019 00:01
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Eat This Glob posted:I decided to give the books a reread for the first time and holy moly is it hard to believe they're only a decade-plus old. homophobic slurs are excusable because butcher doesn't hate gay people lol Yeah, I flipped through a few issues and hoo boy do Homelander and Jack drop about every slur there is. And they sure looooooove dropping the N-bomb on Deep. Also, this minor character made me laugh. Gumchum! 
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Jul 29, 2019 02:50
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Mantis42 posted:Does the TV show do the 9/11 thing or naw? Sort of. They had a plane scene in episode 4, but it wasn't 9/11 related. Instead of trying to look heroic on 9/11, they're trying to look good so the government will pass a military bill favoring the supes.
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Jul 29, 2019 10:20
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Dawgstar posted:If they do the G-Men, I really hope they skip G-Style because yikes. I mean, there was also G-Coast, and those teams were forced to have an east coast/west coast rap rivalry style drama by VA. The only black member of G-Wiz brings it up to Hughie and is like 'I have to graduate to one of those teams. Goddamn it.' But yeah,  indeed.I'm wondering if they'll keep the SuperDuper arc, since they've toned down how terrible and nihilistic they're portraying a lot of the supes. In the comics, they seem really naive, and some are implied to be sorta special needs, and they go on neighborhood patrols to like get cats out of trees and stuff. They get sent a new leader who was sent there as punishment, and Hughie (who's been doing surveillance on them) tries to fight the guy when he starts brutalizing them because they're actually harmless and 'childlike' even though they're supes.
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Jul 29, 2019 16:15
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Panfilo posted:The show does a good job of showing just how dangerous Superheroes would really be, even in the best of circumstances. I dunno if you're a comic reader at all, but a decade back Mark Waid came out with a pretty good series called Irredeemable (and a sister series Incorruptible) that dealt with that, but with less nihilism than The Boys had. In Irredeemable, the Superman-esque character Plutonian snaps after a horrible accident he caused comes to light, he goes on a rampage and becomes an extreme despot. Former teammates of his try to work together to take him down. In Incorruptible, it's the opposite story. The villain Max Damage was going to release a deadly plague, but when he saw Plutonian's rampage he had a change of heart and decided to become a hero. He's actually one of the few characters that can go toe-to-toe with Plutonian, but it makes him erratic because his powers get stronger the longer he goes without sleeping. E: how did I misspell Incorruptable wrong LadyPictureShow fucked around with this message at 09:46 on Jul 30, 2019 |
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Jul 29, 2019 20:04
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Morrow posted:It doesn't seem like they're going with that direction: the actor for Black Noir is black, and all the material on his character seems to build him up as a superpowered ninja. But he's so low-key throughout this whole season that he could be sandbagging. They've done similar things in other superhero shows. Plus he never talks or takes his mask off. They could keep the Black Noir reveal from the comics or go a completely different route
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Jul 29, 2019 21:01
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Panfilo posted:So I read that in the comic, he was a clone of Homelander who existed as this failsafe to kill Homelander if he ever went rogue. Buuuuut.... Comics spoilers: Black Noir actually did go nuts from being so close to his target but never given the kill order. So he actually started committing atrocities dressed in the Homelander suit, filmed himself doing poo poo like eating a baby and skull loving a person to death and released the photos. That made Homelander doubt himself/his own mind etc, went full 'gently caress everything' and tried to stage a superhero coup. HL has only figured out after he had murdered the Vice President that he had been basically manipulated by Black Noir into getting the government to issue the kill order on him. He was totally fixated on his mission, but cracked up at the endless waiting to get to do it
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Jul 29, 2019 22:32
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-Blackadder- posted:Yeah, the whole time I was watching the boys I just kept thinking how great an Irredeemable adaption would be. Like, they could really nail it, and it would be fantastic. Some of the best parts of the series are how warped, yet realistic his superman origin story is. Like how rather than having the perfect, wholesome farm life upbringing his childhood is basically the "It's a Good Life" episode of The Twilight Zone. And how when he reveals his secret identity to his news reporter girlfriend she freaks out and immediately outs him to the public. I think it's been in the works for a movie adaptation for a while (not sure how that would go over, since it's a pretty densely packed story, what with back story/the rest of the team/the arch-nemesis/the off-planet stuff etc.) Yeah, one of the characters even directly brings up the 'It's a Wonderful Life' episode. To me the biggest gut-punch part was when Plutonian tracked down his former foster siblings who were living in the middle of nowhere, basically in hiding from him. He goes off on them for the family rejecting him despite all the good he had done, but that they unconditionally love and care for their special needs brother and did everything for him. He was angry, resentful, and completely ignored the fact that they were terrified of him because the youngest brother was special needs because of what he had done. You see him shoot his eye beams before he comes outside and flies away... he only fired it on the older siblings, leaving the youngest brother to starve to death in his wheelchair. Sorry for the derail! LadyPictureShow fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Jul 31, 2019 |
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Jul 30, 2019 21:58
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Boinks posted:I'd love to see the people in here who complain about Ennis try to read Crossed. Pffffft, what are you talking about?! Cum-tainted bullets is high art 
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Jul 31, 2019 01:24
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Bust Rodd posted:I also think only Kimiko having super strength works better for the show and genuinely makes the story more engaging. One of the reasons I stopped reading the Boys comics was because every single storyline was just resolved by fisticuffs, this TV set up just requires smarter writing. Yeah, I liked that turn as well. It was kind of 'meh' that every supergroup was dealt with by 'each of the Boys mutilates someone'. Frenchie being a weapons expert was a cool turn, and of course, relying on this thread's darling, Laser Baby, is more fun and interesting than 'super-strength punch'.
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Aug 2, 2019 15:29
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Dr. Killjoy posted:Homelander's already pretty Nazi as it is so wondering what benefit Stormfront could bring to the series. I know in the comics, Stormfront was pissed off about having to be leader of Payback because his image kept him from making it into the Seven, and was incredibly sexist and xenophobic to his own teammates. He was also important in the comic's backstory because He was the first successful V-Baby, and his blood was used to isolate and perfect the Compound V used for Homelander and the rest of the Seven.
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Aug 2, 2019 21:41
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Jedit posted:I forget who it was that said "money is my superpower". 
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Aug 9, 2019 16:15
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Z the IVth posted:It's a similar plot point to the show actually. She gets PTSD from the failed plane rescue and tries to escape into a bottle. The general rear end in a top hat attitude is what she develops for being jaded - this is much less clear in the comics but pretty obvious in the show. Not just from the plane rescue failure. In the comics, Maeve could fly as well. The panicking passengers were swarming her, begging her not to leave them/cursing them out, and in a blind panic she mulched right through them to get out of the plane. She brings up the feeling of all their blood and such sliding off of her to Butcher in some flashback
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Aug 12, 2019 05:06
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Just Chamber posted:Lmao people will twist things any way they can just so they can criticise a show for not being woke enough. It must make them feel so smug. 
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Aug 13, 2019 08:37
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Pfft. Everyone knows the black heroes get the lightning and thunder powers.  I'm sure that's  you were making, but drat if Volt wasn't self aware.
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Aug 13, 2019 15:22
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That Italian Guy posted:I have to say I have appreciated the fact that season 1 has Butcher build up the team instead of having Hughie join them with the Boys already up and running. I'm not sure about the changes to MM's background though I'm glad they got rid of the whole lactation/tentacle monster part, but I wish they'd kept some of it; his family's story fits very well with the whole "gently caress corporations" vibe. I guess it would clash with the whole ""normal" people VS supes" angle most of 1st season has kept though. I kinda doubt they'll keep MM's mom mutating into a titty blob but they might keep the more grounded aspects of his comic backstory, and remix it to something like his little brother manifesting powers that kill him after being given V as an infant, and his father trying to sue VA after that.
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Aug 14, 2019 15:35
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Bedshaped posted:The lobster bit was confusing. I've never cooked or eaten em but I thought they were supposed to be cooked alive. Some places will offer to steam them for you in-store. There's two ways to off them; either knife them and drop them in boiling water ASAP, or just put them in a pot of boiling water alive. Aside from that it was just hilarious.
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Aug 15, 2019 19:27
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Rocksicles posted:Idris Elba is up there with the good ones. Tom Holland is pretty drat good too I remember seeing his episode of Hot Ones, and he talked about how he went through several auditions and meetings for The Wire and didn't break doing an American accent because his agent warned him David Simon wouldn't want a British actor.
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Aug 27, 2019 12:59
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FilthyImp posted:I'm really happy the writers are crafting something great from the comic because MM's daughter geting super-puberty at 11 then being manipulated by Butcher to do porn to distract MM is loving groooooooooooooss MM's daughter did porn with her mother to get back at her dad because she was angry with him. The part where Butcher manipulated her was busting into the porn studio during a meeting and killing everyone, including her mother, right in front of her to get her to call MM and draw him away from HQ for a while so he could set up his 'end game' without MM being able to find him out. I really wish I didn't remember that.
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Aug 31, 2019 18:10
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Rocksicles posted:The beefcake guy who plays Joint Boy on Letterkenny is playing Gunpowder too Yes yes yes! Is that a character original to the show?
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Sep 7, 2019 02:19
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Plan Z posted:Nah, he was in the same unit that Popclaw was in the comics. He did almost nothing and kind of looked like Judge Dredd meets Mad Max. Oh, okay, that group. They took on so many 'hero' groups in the comic, it's hard to remember all the names. Except for my boy Gumchum!
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Sep 8, 2019 00:22
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Koalas March posted:I am afraid to ask It the comics, she's 12 years old but matured much faster because of M.M.'s compound V exposure. In an effort to make him mad, she went and starred in a porno with her mother. By the end of things she lives, but runs away, because Billy showed up to the porn studio and murdered everyone, including her mother right in front of her
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Jun 19, 2020 13:47
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Chairman Capone posted:Speaking of Ennis and adaptations, wasn't Crossed supposed to become a TV show at one point? I can't imagine that working, even for HBO or Amazon. I thought it was in talks to be made into a movie not long after it came out, but I think that fizzled out altogether. I'm not sure it the Walking Dead being a hit when the first season came out had anything to do with it getting shelved.
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Jun 21, 2020 22:47
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SunshineDanceParty posted:Yeah when they're watching the movie from that poster it's Billy Zane she corners in the alley. He also shows up for a second when MM approaches Mesmer at the hero-con. Watched the eps last night, and I'm pretty bummed where it ended on, only because now I don't want to wait a week for the next episode. I was initially kind of bummed they spoiled the whale part in teasers but holy poo poo the payoff with Butcher and then MM going to talk to Hughie as he refuses to get out of the whale corpse was great..
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Sep 5, 2020 23:05
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aware of dog posted:Earlier today I got a Twitter ad for a giveaway for a line of sneakers with custom designs for The Boys characters. Including a pair of Stormfront sneakers, complete with her name and logo emblazoned on the side. It seems someone realized this was Not A Good Look, because the tweet has been deleted and the Stormfront shoes have been scrubbed from the website. Yeah, the goofy thing is that some sites that ran a piece on it still say 'enter to win one of twelve pairs' but only show eleven pairs, with the last pair on a completely blank background. For anyone curious, here's what the Stormfront ones looked like 
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Sep 9, 2020 04:29
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Automatic Slim posted:I couldn’t find a website with the “The Boys” Nike shoes. Are those real? If so, hope Nike vetted the entire season. The shoes aren't a Nike drop, they're all customs that are raffle prizes. This site has info/pics of the https://www.complex.com/sneakers/2020/09/kickstradomis-sneakers-amazon-the-boys/kimiko
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Sep 9, 2020 17:25
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MT, you are the real hero.
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Sep 10, 2020 21:04
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moist turtleneck posted:What if they weren't watching her at that moment and but been trying to pinch her head for days and the timelines just matched up for perfect entertainment It was worth it for Hughie's panicked 'Are our heads gonna explode?!' reaction as they peeled out. anatomi posted:Edit: I really hope that the Boys don't get augmented with V. It's so much more fun when the writers have to flex their creative muscles.  I find it a lot more interesting to see the Boys get creative, and have only Kimiko as their heavy hitter, plus a couple of supes they either have a rapport with or can exploit for help.LadyPictureShow fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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Sep 27, 2020 19:48
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jabby posted:Anyone else notice Malchemical got name-dropped as a supe that Frenchie went up against (and beat)? I caught that, but couldn't remember if Frenchie lit him on fire in the comics as well. Let's hope that the name drop is the only thing about Malchemical drop in the show. His whole actual storyline in the books was unpleasant.
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Sep 30, 2020 14:09
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spacetoaster posted:Is he a Red Guardian spoof? Red Guardian was basically just 'Captain America, but soviet'. I found this panel of Vas's old super team comrades: 
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DogsInSpace! posted:Yeah leave the Dad crusader parts and forget the rest. Those “nuggets” could be ok... just glad I didn’t know before checking the show out. Almost was going to read it based on Love Sausage panels. I vaguely remember the Ennis run on Hellblazer and 2000AD were decent. When they were on the road trip with Annie, MM talked about his dad's typewriter and how he could hear the keys clacking at all hours of the night until one morning when they found him slumped over dead sitting at it. At that scene, my reaction was 'Okay, let's not go any further than that on his backstory from the comics'. They could pull some stuff like his mother being exposed to V/his brother being exposed to V and dying because of it but leave all the gross stupid shock poo poo on the cutting room floor, which they've been amazing at doing with everything else.
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