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Off the top of my head Aldrich Ames is the only spy I can think of that got relatively wealthy selling out his country, but other than that high treason seems to be shockingly underpaid profession.
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Nuclear Tourist posted:Off the top of my head Aldrich Ames is the only spy I can think of that got relatively wealthy selling out his country, but other than that high treason seems to be shockingly underpaid profession. Robert Hanssen apparently got $1.4 million over 22 years from Russia. That’s only like $2.5 million today. At least a reasonable amount of money and the most damaging traitor in American history that the general public knows about. And it helps reframe the need for financial stability in clearances. Why do we give TS to junior enlisted again? Is it clearance creep because proper segregation of data is too hard?
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Aug 14, 2024 19:02
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Nystral posted:Is it clearance creep because proper segregation of data is too hard? Yes.
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Anathematic posted:Do they just fuckin throw all the TS into some giant shared folder for all these nubs to pick through? Yes.
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Aug 14, 2024 19:22
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Almost like every effort to properly sanitize and classify data over the last 50 years is an abject failure due to cultural inertia within the DOD and there is no price for failure because when the results come due every one involved with scope and ownership has moved on. Just like in the private sector. But no fear AI will save us!
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Aug 14, 2024 19:36
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I remember being told I needed a clearance for the ANCD (a cryptographic thingy that puts the codes in the radios), which seemed really silly, because I had no idea what it did, how it worked, or any of the workings. No one seemed to. had Tech-Priest levels of understanding- annoint the connector with spit, plug it in, say the right incantations, do the right gestures, and your radios work. In case of capture or otherwise, kill the machine spirit with the Emperor's Zero, the forbidden rite. I understand on paper why I needed one, but it seemed loving dumb.
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Aug 14, 2024 20:01
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bulletsponge13 posted:I remember being told I needed a clearance for the ANCD (a cryptographic thingy that puts the codes in the radios), which seemed really silly, because I had no idea what it did, how it worked, or any of the workings. No one seemed to. Didn't they tell us we could eat the rubber keypad to destroy it too?
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Aug 14, 2024 20:29
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I wasn't, but that sounds like something that I would have been. I was told that if we didn't have thermite, someone is to Z everything, then shoot it. If we had thermite, stack everything, and burn it.
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Aug 14, 2024 20:47
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:beats getting caught and only getting 42k! I don’t know about that. The factorial of 42000 is an astronomically large number.
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Aug 14, 2024 21:19
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loving math jokes, man
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bulletsponge13 posted:I remember being told I needed a clearance for the ANCD (a cryptographic thingy that puts the codes in the radios), which seemed really silly, because I had no idea what it did, how it worked, or any of the workings. No one seemed to. I think we were told something similar in the early days of the duke systems. "We're putting one in your truck. Don't touch it. Don't look at it. Don't speak its name. It is beyond you." - Navy guy
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Aug 14, 2024 22:27
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before the ANCD it was kyk 13s and lol yup.
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Aug 14, 2024 22:41
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Aw, KYK-13. We had those Windows CE powered code loaders and they were always having issues.
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Aug 14, 2024 23:16
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With the KYK you should definitely not pronounce the name in a way that makes it sound like a racial slur. We were taught to use them in tech school and then I never saw one again. Just the PDA ones.
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Casimir Radon posted:With the KYK you should definitely not pronounce the name in a way that makes it sound like a racial slur. We were taught to use them in tech school and then I never saw one again. Just the PDA ones. I always said 'Kick-13'
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CommieGIR posted:I always said 'Kick-13' That's what I always heard/used.
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CommieGIR posted:I always said 'Kick-13'
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Rascar Capac posted:https://x.com/SectorAnalytics/status/1822977937638928797?t=Rto0Zn4XYdcsMqRJKK3OMg&s=19
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Aug 15, 2024 01:15
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Which reminds me, has there been confirmation on sex in space yet? Im assuming it's happened but no proof
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Aug 15, 2024 04:49
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Anybody remember the PRC77? Just clicking a bunch of knobs around to talk to folks. Then getting water on the battery and burning to death.
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Aug 15, 2024 04:53
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Go get a pricky 7, it's in the office over there. We used them in Germany a bit for training. We were like monkeys encountering the monolith when we saw a SINCGARS for the first time, let alone an ASIP which let us use more of the radio mount as a storage rack as God intended.
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Aug 15, 2024 05:24
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Which reminds me, has there been confirmation on sex in space yet? Im assuming it's happened but no proof NASA unknowingly sent a married couple up in the early 1990s (they kept the marriage a secret) - the assumption among the NASA and NASA-adjacent folks I know is that they had sex in orbit. No confirmation, though.
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bulletsponge13 posted:I remember being told I needed a clearance for the ANCD (a cryptographic thingy that puts the codes in the radios), which seemed really silly, because I had no idea what it did, how it worked, or any of the workings. No one seemed to. If you have physical access to something you can carry it out of the building or be instructed to manipulate it in specific ways even if you don't understand what it is or how it works. Either of those have Really Bad implications, especially for cryptographic systems.
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We had some guys leave a SKL (the newer windows ce loader) at a truck stop in Korea. Didn't realize it was missing until they got back to Yongsan 3 hours later. Made those assholes turn around to go get it and in proper Korean fashion the briefcase was sitting there unmolested where they left it. Still had to call NSA and supersede a bunch of keys though, just in case.
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Aug 15, 2024 09:09
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Sex in zero G would either be amazing or amazingly frustrating. I’m not sure which but now I’m intensely curious.
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Shooting Blanks posted:NASA unknowingly sent a married couple up in the early 1990s (they kept the marriage a secret) - the assumption among the NASA and NASA-adjacent folks I know is that they had sex in orbit. No confirmation, though. Space Suit Glory Hole just popped into my head for this scenario, and feels like a decent username 
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nullscan posted:We had some guys leave a SKL (the newer windows ce loader) at a truck stop in Korea. Didn't realize it was missing until they got back to Yongsan 3 hours later. Made those assholes turn around to go get it and in proper Korean fashion the briefcase was sitting there unmolested where they left it. During WW2 even after the German Enigma and Lorenz ciphers had been cracked Britain allowed many German flights, shipments etc to pass unmolested to lull Germany into thinking that their communications were still secure. Some times they'd send out a single scout to "accidentally" spot a flight or convoy and radio back on an open channel to mask that they already knew about it.
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Collateral Damage posted:Some times they'd send out a single scout to "accidentally" spot a flight or convoy and radio back on an open channel to mask that they already knew about it. Parallel construction, not just for cops! Shooting Blanks posted:NASA unknowingly sent a married couple up in the early 1990s (they kept the marriage a secret) - the assumption among the NASA and NASA-adjacent folks I know is that they had sex in orbit. No confirmation, though. Mind blowing to me that there is no security clearance process for astronauts where they have to declare spouse/partner. (Or if there is and they lied, that is not a chance i would take if I was on the track to go to space)
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Xakura posted:Parallel construction, not just for cops! The thing is, the "no loving in space" policy is part professional conduct standards and part "please don't make us have to deal with tabloid bullshit or give Republicans material to make hay over." It's not actually a matter of national security, and everyone knows it. If they find out beforehand they can quietly rotate you out. If they find out after the horse is out of the
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Blue Footed Booby posted:The thing is, the "no loving in space" policy is part professional conduct standards and part "please don't make us have to deal with tabloid bullshit or give Republicans material to make hay over." It's not actually a matter of national security, and everyone knows it. If they find out beforehand they can quietly rotate you out. If they find out after the horse is out of the The greatest punishment: Making both partners write a thorough second-by-second playthrough of the entire sexual encounter. I would not be surprised if NASA has a couple extremely detailed logs under lock and key of someone's adventures jerkin' it in orbit.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:The thing is, the "no loving in space" policy is part professional conduct standards and part "please don't make us have to deal with tabloid bullshit or give Republicans material to make hay over." It's not actually a matter of national security, and everyone knows it. If they find out beforehand they can quietly rotate you out. If they find out after the horse is out of the You misread me. I'm surprised astronauts have a less rigorous background check than some mil IT dweeb.
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Xakura posted:You misread me. I'm surprised astronauts have a less rigorous background check than some mil IT dweeb. Tbf those aren't particularly effective. Apparently you can spend years posting TS stuff to your neonazi discord w/o an issue.
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Kazinsal posted:The greatest punishment: Making both partners write a thorough second-by-second playthrough of the entire sexual encounter. I’m positive I saw some article about this subject and the suggestion was like all male or female crew. lol
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Aug 15, 2024 17:02
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Houston, we have a gay
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ComradePyro posted:Houston, we have a gay America may not have been first in space but we could certainly be fisted in space.
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I thought they snuck off to Vegas (or whatever) during mission training, after the background checks and per-mission investigation had been completed. I want to say that NASA found out but too late to do anything but send them up or scrub the mission, but don't quote me on that.
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Crab Dad posted:I’m positive I saw some article about this subject and the suggestion was like all male or female crew. lmao none of the women I knew who went to all-girls boarding schools ended up being anything but good little chaste christian girls, no sirree bob
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Which reminds me, has there been confirmation on sex in space yet? Im assuming it's happened but no proof As mentioned above, closest possibility is the married couple, but they were also on the shuttle with 5 other crew. So either they gave a truly unforgettable, once in a lifetime show to a small audience, or the crew just politely ignored the canoodling while staring straight ahead, or they just kept it pg13. I've started reading A City on Mars: Can We Settle Space, Should We Settle Space, and Have We Really Thought This Through? (100% recommend, it's by Kelly and Zach Weinersmith, of SMBC fame) which discusses this in the section about biological issues with space. We don't (officially) know how any part of child anything might happen in space, we only have theoretical gently caress-suit designs and the knowledge that micro gravity isn't great for adults.
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Nobody can hear you scream in space. Word?
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