Welcome goonlings to the Awful Book of the Month! In this thread, we choose one work of Resources: Project Gutenberg - http://www.gutenberg.org - A database of over 17000 books available online. If you can suggest books from here, that'd be the best. SparkNotes - http://www.sparknotes.com/ - A very helpful Cliffnotes-esque site, but much better, in my opinion. If you happen to come in late and need to catch-up, you can get great character/chapter/plot summaries here. For recommendations on future material, suggestions on how to improve the club, or just a general rant, feel free to PM me. Past Books of the Month [for BOTM before 2016, refer to archives] 2016: January: Three Men in a Boat (To say nothing of the Dog!) by Jerome K. Jerome February:The March Up Country (The Anabasis) of Xenophon March: The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco April: Plain Tales from the Hills by Rudyard Kipling May: Temple of the Golden Pavilion by Yukio Mishima June:The Vegetarian by Han Kang July:Lud-in-the-Mist by Hope Mirrlees August: Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov September:Siddhartha by Herman Hesse October:Right Ho, Jeeves by P.G. Wodehouse November:Kitchen Confidential by Anthony Bourdain December: It Can't Happen Here by Sinclair Lewis 2017: January: Mother Night by Kurt Vonnegut February: The Plague by Albert Camus March: The Dispossessed by Ursula K. LeGuin April: The Conference of the Birds (مقامات الطیور) by Farid ud-Din Attar May: I, Claudius by Robert Graves June: Salt: A World History by Mark Kurlansky July: Ficcionies by Jorge Luis Borges August: My Life and Hard Times by James Thurber September: The Peregrine by J.A. Baker October: Blackwater Vol. I: The Flood by Michael McDowell November: Aquarium by David Vann December: Sir Gawaine and the Green Knight [Author Unknown] 2018 January: Njal's Saga [Author Unknown] February: The Sign of the Four by Arthur Conan Doyle March: Lincoln in the Bardo by George Saunders April: Twenty Days of Turin by Giorgio de Maria May: Lectures on Literature by Vladimir Nabokov June: The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test by Tom Wolfe July: Warlock by Oakley Hall August: All Creatures Great and Small by James Herriott September: The Magus by John Fowles October: I'll Be Gone in the Dark by Michelle McNamara November: Arcadia by Tom Stoppard December: Christmas Stories by Charles Dickens 2019: January: Roadside Picnic by Arkady and Boris Strugatsky February: BEAR by Marian Engel March: V. by Thomas Pynchon April: The Doorbell Rang by Rex Stout May: Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman June: 1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus by Charles C. Mann July: The Art of Fielding by Chad Harbach Current: Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds by Charles Mackay Book available here: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/24518 About the book: quote:In reading the history of nations, we find that, like individuals, they have their whims and their peculiarities; their seasons of excitement and recklessness, when they care not what they do. We find that whole communities suddenly fix their minds upon one object, and go mad in its pursuit; that millions of people become simultaneously impressed with one delusion, and run after it, till their attention is caught by some new folly more captivating than the first...Money, again, has often been a cause of the delusion of multitudes. Sober nations have all at once become desperate gamblers, and risked almost their existence upon the turn of a piece of paper... Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one. Charles Mackay, L.L.D. quote:Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds is an early study of crowd psychology by Scottish journalist Charles Mackay, first published in 1841.[1] The book was published in three volumes: "National Delusions", "Peculiar Follies", and "Philosophical Delusions".[2] Mackay was an accomplished teller of stories, though he wrote in a journalistic and somewhat sensational style. quote:n his 1841 book Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, Charles MacKay wrote of the crowd psychology that drive numerous “National Delusions,” Peculiar Follies,” and “Psychological Delusions.” Among the various manias were the tulip bubble of the early 17th century, witch mania of the 16th and 17th centuries and alchemists who sought to turn base medals into gold. About the Author(s) quote:Charles Mackay was born in Perth, Scotland. His father, George Mackay, was a bombardier in the Royal Artillery, and his mother Amelia Cargill died shortly after his birth.[1] His birthdate was 26 March 1812, although he always gave it as 27 March 1814. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Mackay_%28author%29 Themes It's all right there in the title. This is basically the first book to look at all these disparate historical trends and frame them in the way us moderns think of them today -- as mass manias. It's not hard to see why this book remains relevant today. Pacing Read as thou wilt is the whole of the law. Please post after you read! Please bookmark the thread to encourage discussion. Keep in mind this is written in 1841. It assumes a different kind of reader from what we have today, but the format isn't that unfamiliar overall -- in some ways think of it as the 1840's equivalent of a Buzzfeed article or deep Wikipedia dive. This may be one you want to skip around a bit in. Some sections, the economic bubble ones in particular, are easier reads, and the medieval history sections drag a bit more than the relatively modern parts. References and Further Reading There are a lot of different directions we could go in here, so I'll leave the thread to make suggestions. Final Note: Thanks, and I hope everyone enjoys the book!
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2019 01:12 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 22:42 |
NoNostalgia4Grover posted:Read Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Mad a few times. Yeah, I've been re-reading it to prepare once it became clear that it was winning the poll. So far, the clear standout chapters are the First Stock Bubble chapters because it's still a very modern problem and it's incredible to read about nations dealing with it for the first time and not realizing it's a problem, like the King deciding "hey, these paper securities are great, printing some worked out fine, let's keep printing more? What could go wrong?" "Ooooooh my bad" The witch mania chapters I find interesting just from a legal and sociological perspective, especially given the huge death toll. As an American we know about the Salem witch trials but it's weird to realize that the Salem witches were like the last rural hick vestige of a trend that had already played itself out a hundred or two hundred years before on the Continent. The part that drags for me is mostly the alchemists, because it's just a very long, very repetitive litany of individual scam artists and scam victims, not really "crowd" behavior at all.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2019 14:59 |
This footnote intrigued me:quote:The curious reader may find an anecdote of the eagerness of the French ladies to retain Law in their company, which will make him blush or smile according as he happens to be very modest or the reverse. It is related in the Letters of Madame Charlotte Elizabeth de Bavière, Duchess of Orleans, vol. ii. p. 274. So of course I looked it up; the edition I found doesn't match for page numbers but I believe this is the incident: quote:2ist November, 1719, Paris.
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2019 16:02 |
Baka-nin posted:I was curious so I'm giving it a go. Are we reading just the first volume or the complete work? Honestly, I'd suggest skipping around in both volumes depending on what sounds interesting. The neat thing about the South Sea and Mississippi Bubbles are that everyone involved is discovering how it works too in real time as we read about it. Short, oversimplified version: Before this, money was based on physical things -- gold or barter. That means that money was scarce and hence very valuable. Like, coins themselves were relatively rare. If you wanted to buy something you might have to barter for it just out of lack of currency. In the middle ages up through the renaissance, you started to see paper money, but it was notes of credit -- i.e., you'd deposit a thousand gold pieces with a banker in Rome and give you a receipt for it, you'd travel to London and give the receipt to a banker in London who'd give you your thousand gold back (minus a percentage), etc. Basically the first IOU's. What's happening in these two situations is very smart people working out for the very first time that you could take that basic concept and go BIG with it, making lots of promises, issuing lots of IOUs,. In effect, they're inventing the modern idea of the stock market. Problem: nobody had really processed yet that stock markets could crash. Concepts like inflation and deflation weren't worked out yet. The word "bubble" is literally not coined yet. So from a modern perspective it's like reading about people discovering the concept of fire and then all deciding "wow, that's really warm! That's great! Let's all shove our dicks into it! What could go wrong?" Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Aug 7, 2019 |
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2019 01:11 |
One big reason I put this into the poll was because of how neatly it syncs up with a lot of the major problems our society still faces today -- conspiracy theories, political idiocies, capitalism, etc. I went a few pages deep into google looking for articles that contained the phrase "madness of crowds" -- referencing this book. Here's some of what I found: quote:
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/robert-shiller-economists-donald-trump-9-11-brexit-immigration-a7539961.html quote:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-truth-an-outdated-concept/ quote:
https://www.lindau-nobel.org/blog-lucidity-in-the-post-factual-era-how-to-unsee-the-emperors-new-clothes/ quote:Making news through trolling https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/mike-cernovich
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2019 19:27 |
ToxicFrog posted:I'm into volume 2 now and, um I think that's a difference in what we consider "history" now vs what was considered history then. Back then social history wasn't a priority to anything like the degree it is now; detailed history would mean like detailed troop movements in particular battles etc. Also he's not exactly the most precise writer Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Aug 12, 2019 |
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2019 19:57 |
Defenestrategy posted:I just popped in here to say, during my internship at a futures trader about a year ago the chapters on the Mississippi scheme, the South Seas Bubble, and Tulipmania where required reading for the interns on top of studying for the series 3 license. I think that's roughly fair. The mississippi and south sea schemes were government-involved from the start though -- the core idea was basically "let's have the government issue securities! Then they can't possibly fail!" I'd need to re-read the section on the tulip mania though that seemed more pure market shenanigans from what I recall.
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2019 20:30 |
NoNostalgia4Grover posted:
We did it as BOTM a year or two back! https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3822839 Very good book but has some historical inaccuracies.
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2019 13:00 |
Did some digging on the history of Aqua Tofana.quote:
https://www.academia.edu/29668795/Aqua_Tofana
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2019 14:58 |
We need nominations for next month.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2019 00:54 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 22:42 |
pseudanonymous posted:Has Johnathon Strange and Mr. Norrell been done? I generally don't pick books that are already very popular on the forum. My criteria are basically 1) accessibility -- either easy to read or easy to download a free copy of, ideally both 2) novelty -- something a significant fraction of the forum hasn't already read 3) discussability -- intellectual merit, controversiality, insight -- a book people will be able to talk about. I also try to mix up genre and format a bit but that's subjective. E.g., we've done a lot of nonfiction lately, so it might be time for a fiction pick. We've also done a lot of male authors so might be time for a female author. etc.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2019 15:42 |