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EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A CD INTO THE SLOT. IT’S AENIMA AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, MAYNARD. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD.
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my bony fealty posted:yep that's the part, "the walls come down..." is where I always just go shiiittt It does make me a bit sad that they sort of locked in to their sound with Lateralus and never departed much. Despite my insistence that Lateralus is on another level than 10,000 Days (and AEnima trumping both by a lightyear), I have to confess that if I was naive to Tool and you presented me all of the songs on Lateralus/10k Days out of order I wouldn’t be able to confidently parse them into two albums. And from what I’ve heard of FI this will largely be true again. That Tool sound that emerged with Lateralus all seems to revolve around the part writing between Adam and Justin and how Justin basically writes bass parts like he’s a lead guitarist. I think it works to great effect a lot of the time, but AEnima sounds so much more sonically diverse than its successors. It’s remarkable how much Adam relied on unconventional sounds on AEnima as well. He used to use so much more pick scraping, feedback, etc.
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Aug 29, 2019 19:38
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New album is so good on decent headphones. The bass sounds phenomenal on my Powerbeats Pro and you can pick up and process so much more "stuff" from the songs. The whole song is great, but the last 3 minutes of Pneuma are incredible.
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Aug 29, 2019 19:39
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Fors Yard posted:EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A CD INTO THE SLOT. IT’S AENIMA AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, MAYNARD. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. Do you do the whooshing sounds on Ions?
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Aug 29, 2019 19:43
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A good thing about Aenima over its successors is the production itself. There's some cool stuff going on with mono/stereo switching, where a lot of the guitar tracks are mono until the final chorus, so there's a lot of audio bunched in the center that gives it that signature noisy wall sound. The albums that followed are wayyy too clean and pristine. I also wonder if the songs on Aenima sound significantly different from the newer stuff due to Paul D'Amour having a hand in writing several of them (Stinkfist, Eulogy, Pushit, Aenema, and H.). Tool hasn't had that grunge-groove feel they had on the early albums in a long time, and maybe he played a big part in that.
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Aug 29, 2019 20:04
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my bony fealty posted:yep that's the part, "the walls come down..." is where I always just go shiiittt Yep Aenima is such a good song too, such a good example of different sounds in one song but still sounding coherent Same with Third Eye, somehow it works And Forty Six & 2 pretty much created a new genre
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Aug 29, 2019 21:34
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echinopsis posted:
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Aug 29, 2019 21:40
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Yeah thinking about Aenima is a bit of a shame, it's such a mammoth, diverse, interesting album. Lots of high points, the interludes add so much to creating an affecting dynamic. Their latter albums are unreal but more of a consistent theme, Lateralus and Fear Inoculum mostly. I took the time to listen to FI on headphones yesterday, had the house to myself, lay on bed chilled out. Enjoyed it a lot. Then I realised I had my music player set to 1.10 speed (to get through podcasts quicker). What the gently caress. Sounds amazing at normal speed too obvious
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Aug 29, 2019 23:21
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Colonel Whitey posted:How do you mean eh maybe it just feels like it to me, but it really feels like that song was an utterly new sound, and it feels like music that used the kind of scales that song does only really appeared after that album. 🤷♂️ don’t take my amateur opinion too seriously I’m sure someone with a wider knowledge of music will shoot me down 😒
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Aug 29, 2019 23:32
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Structurally, 46&2 is borrowed from King Crimsons Frame by Frame. (who I'm sure borrowed from someone else). Soundwise, sure, 46&2 is pretty nifty. Wasnt there an AOL interview with Chancellor/Maynard in the 90s where they were sarcastic assholes and very blunt and said "nothing we do is original. We're just ripping off music we listened to as kids" Set Controls for the Heart of the Sun = Pushit The Sheltering Sky = Reflection Etc
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echinopsis posted:eh maybe it just feels like it to me, but it really feels like that song was an utterly new sound, and it feels like music that used the kind of scales that song does only really appeared after that album. like 95% of their songs it's in d minor but uses the minor 2nd (d#) in the main riff to add tension
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The bass also uses a major 3rd at the end of every phrase. When combined with the minor 2nd, it gives the whole track that "exotic" Egyptian feel.
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if you wanna learn something cool this dude goes through a bunch of songs including a lot of 90s alt rock breaking down all the parts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScRG40_7zb0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f53W_KfQpNc
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Aug 30, 2019 00:52
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Been listening to new album for few days....I'm like burn out....ugh. It was good but yeah, I think tool brings up too many old heavy feelings that I don't give a poo poo about anymore and the new album is great but doesn't even begin to touch that side of me anymore. Guess i'm just "dead in.....siiiiiiiiiiihhhhde" now.
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Aug 30, 2019 01:07
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Yeah I like Rick Beato even though sometimes he talks like he’s teaching a 6th grade recorder class
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The Muppets On PCP posted:like 95% of their songs it's in d minor but uses the minor 2nd (d#) in the main riff to add tension yeah, korn also uses the minor 2nd all the fuckin time, and both were doing it around the same time. I don’t doubt it’s unoriginal if there’s one thing adam does well it’s feedback. it’s like satan is inhabiting his guitar. i’m gonna take acid with gf tonight and i’m sure we will listen to one new song but i’m not sure which to pick. she doesn’t really love tool so I don’t want to be obnoxious and subject her to lots of music she doesn’t love so i’m wondering what would be the best song on the new album for this. opinions?
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Pneuma or Invincible.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Pneuma or Invincible. yep same
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Awesome, thanks.
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Aug 30, 2019 01:51
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Would absolutely rock an alex grey hoodie, but I don't need the branding
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Aug 30, 2019 02:09
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The full album's now up on Tool's youtube page. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRURmhFE6BI
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Aug 30, 2019 06:02
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it’s on spotify with more tracks than the leak. i haven’t listened to them to see what they are yet
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ugh i just skipped thru them and it’s trashy weird ambient poo poo wtf
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Aug 30, 2019 06:37
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Lol Target just informed me that I’m not getting the cd until 9/12, gently caress them. I guess I’m just happy I was able to preorder a physical copy at all.
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Aug 30, 2019 06:41
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echinopsis posted:ugh i just skipped thru them and it’s trashy weird ambient poo poo wtf I agree with weird and ambient. Legion Inoculate made me think of Tangerine Dream helltrips. I immediately listened to Invincible and Descending out of curiosity to see how they differ from the live bootlegs. The mixing is impeccable. This is really good stuff.
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So I've got through the album once. drat what an album. I disagree with the criticism that it sounds too similar to their other albums. It definitely sounds like Tool, but it's way more subtle. It doesn't have the big cheesy riffs like Aenima or Vicarious. This is a strength and a bit of a weakness because those big riffs are so much fun when Tool go for it. However, I do think those riffs would feel pretty drat out of place on the album. I also feel it's less layered than their other albums. There's better seperation between Adam and Justin. So when Adam comes in with an arpeggio or some chugga-chugga on top of Justin, it adds a lot. Invincible is a good example of it. This is also why I disagree with the criticism that they sound like a jam band now. All the layers seem super carefully considered and deliberately placed. Some sections may waffle on, but I don't feel like it's for sake of wankery. I need a map to work out whatever the gently caress is going on in Pneuma though. loving hell what a song that is. So far my least favourite track is 7empest surprisingly enough. But since it's the last "proper" song on the album, I suspect I may have been burned out by the time I got to it. Pneuma is insane though.
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Pneuma is the best thing they've put out since 2001. Also considering Adam has been holding on to riffs since the Ænima days waiting for a chance to slot them into something it's no wonder that parts of the album sound like a throwback.
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I know I'm a tragic nerd (I mean, obviously, I like Tool), but I want to know how they've updated their music gear. Justin sounds the same (but what a goddamn mix on this!), but Adam's sound has less grind in the upper mids and he sounds loving fantastic. I wonder if he's still using that grimy old Marshall? Edit: gently caress me rotten, the ending of Invincible is so awesome. H13 fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Aug 30, 2019 |
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Finished my first listen a while ago and come away in love with the album. It's a Tool album with interludes I'm not crazy about, but do appreciate having somewhat of a breather with all these 10+ minute tracks outside of CCT. My only real gripe with the album is that I wish it was a bit more aggressive in certain areas, but I've pretty much come to terms that the Opiate/Undertow days are over for the most part, which is fine. Though I feel like 7empest came close. All I can really say is "Wow". After listening to the single like a hundred times, hearing Pneuma was goosebumps worthy. Like even with Fear Inoculum, my mind couldn't process that there was more unheard material after that. And listening to Pneuma again right now, I'm getting goosebumps. I think first impression has me leaving with Pneuma as my favorite song, but I really liked the opening guitar to 7empest that woke me up after the soft intro. Lots of elements of old Tool can be heard, but the guys have just mastered their sound and can repeat some of those elements without it getting tedious to me. Fanboying hard for this album overall though.
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Huntman posted:My only real gripe with the album is that I wish it was a bit more aggressive in certain areas, but I've pretty much come to terms that the Opiate/Undertow days are over for the most part, which is fine. I think a few of the songs lack a bit of an ending. Culling Voices and Descending kinda just...have a half-assed crescendo and fade out. This is where a cheesy riff could've been cool. But those songs kick rear end regardless.
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H13 posted:I think a few of the songs lack a bit of an ending. Culling Voices and Descending kinda just...have a half-assed crescendo and fade out. This is where a cheesy riff could've been cool. But those songs kick rear end regardless. Yeah that's a good point. If Descending ended like around the 12:10 point where the guitar really picks up and just got heavier instead of fading out. same with Culling Voices. Their endings feel like songs that finish an album instead of being in the middle-ish. I guess Descending ends softly for Culling Voices soft intro, but that's where you just slap on an interlude of laser rays shooting into space to mellow out. But yeah the songs still rule.
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echinopsis posted:ugh i just skipped thru them and it’s trashy weird ambient poo poo wtf those are definitely the highlights of the album
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Aug 30, 2019 10:48
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They're currently putting all their old videos on Youtube in FULL 480 pixel quality. They're now only 15 years behind modern technology!
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Aug 30, 2019 11:52
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IUG posted:If this is the case, if someone doesn't care about the interludes and wants to sell me their mp3 code of the album, I'd toss them $5 on PayPal. Just quoting myself now that the CDs are in stores. Someone sell me their code! I don't want to join some reddit board for this one thing!
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So far I agree Pnuema / Invincible are the probably the two best but I'm not finished with 7empest yet, it's pretty cool too. I was really surprised to see there are extra tracks on the Digital versions, seems like something Maynard would be against doing  e; some great drum grooves on a bunch of the songs too
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Feels good listening to this. Not even halfway through the album but I’m really enjoying what I’ve heard.
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Sab669 posted:So far I agree Pnuema / Invincible are the probably the two best but I'm not finished with 7empest yet, it's pretty cool too. I don’t think the extra interludes physically fit on the CD.
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I happen to be working from home and Amazon delivered the package first thing this morning, holy poo poo. The packaging is insane, definitely worthy of this killer album. I do wish instead of a spooky visualizer with ambient sounds, the video was something like a behind the scenes documentary but what can you do. The cellophane actually says "the long awaited new album"  Also it's really loving weird to me that Tool just posted all of the new album on YouTube this morning. I mean, I knew it was going to happen, it's just weird, because they took so long to get with the times.
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They just announced tour dates:quote:Tickets are on-sale Sept. 6 at 10 am local time, with a limited number of tickets will be available to Tool Army members on Sept. 4. Tool Army information, as well as VIP package details, can be found via Toolband.com. Love that they're playing the UC in Chicago and not out in Rosemont 
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