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Tool's new album, Fear Inoculum, will be out August 30th. The lead single and preorder info is coming Wednesday. Also they're finally on Spotify/Apple Music/what have you. https://twitter.com/Tool/status/1158409126734487553 And lastly, it's the most self-indulgent Tool album yet - 85 minutes with only seven tracks. https://loudwire.com/new-tool-album-80-minutes-seven-tracks/ Yeah uh, that's it, but I had no idea which megathread they go in. edit: why the hell not, here's the discussion thread(s) for the last album, over 13 years ago. Requires archives. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=1806906 https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1865144 Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Aug 5, 2019 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 00:33 |
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god drat the album art is so bad I think my taste has changed too much (for the better) to really enjoy another Tool album but I guess we'll see
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 21:58 |
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holy poo poo that cover is absolutely terrible
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 22:19 |
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The cringiest part of the cover is that 2019 is "hidden" in the characters. But I think the title is even worse than the cover itself. That said, I am looking forward to the music.
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# ? Aug 5, 2019 22:27 |
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I still like Tool but I'm old and my musical tastes mostly froze in the 90s.
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 02:41 |
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That's a prog metal album art, throw a wizard on that or something and you get symphony x. Still, I am looking forward to the album. I still like tool, the songs they played live are good, hopefully the 5 other ones are good too. edit: Actually I didn't care much for tool back in the late 90s to early 2000s but I've grown to appreciate them as I got older.
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 03:43 |
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Their new songs sound like 10000 Days. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZJIldL5TZU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akeCFH7YybM
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 08:17 |
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https://portofsoundrecords.com/products/fear-inoculum-cd-bundle?variant=28887843111017 apparently this is the deluxe version of the album, because they're just as late to the party getting back to vinyl as they were for streaming. The download included is ten minutes longer than the CD, and the going theory is that it includes the ten minute rerecording of Opiate they teased a couple years back.
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 14:00 |
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Wasn’t the new A Perfect Circle album really bad? I’m surprised that Tool is still even together
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 16:55 |
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Wasn’t the new A Perfect Circle album really bad? I’m surprised that Tool is still even together It was supremely forgettable for sure. Tool has managed to sell out arenas on the regular with their sporadic touring over the years since their last official LP dropped. The fanbase is still there to throw money at them, and arguably the diehards from the early 90's when dude was painting himself blue and living center stage are now firmly in adulthood with potentially more cash to drop on tickets, albums, and VIP packages. I bet they know what they're doing from a "how do we keep this successful" standpoint. e: I am Jack's bad grammar. hatelull fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Aug 6, 2019 |
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Wasn’t the new A Perfect Circle album really bad? I’m surprised that Tool is still even together A couple of the songs were good but the whole thing being "meh" wasn't really a surprise after eMotive anyway. Billy Howerdel had two good albums in him and that was it - just look at Ashes Divide. That was crap too.
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 18:30 |
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AstroWhale posted:Their new songs sound like 10000 Days. it sounds like an angry blue man group
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 19:31 |
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Eh, they're never gonna top the Rosetta Stoned alien story, but I'll probably end up listening to the new poo poo anyway.
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# ? Aug 6, 2019 19:41 |
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I saw them in Hampton, Virginia a few months ago where they played two of the new album tracks, which made me very optimistic about the new album. But I'm mainly happy that Tool now stands a chance at finding a new, young fanbase. I cannot think of any relatively new large band that is as subversive as Tool, of which we have a massive dearth nowadays.
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 03:04 |
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They have released the title track and it sure sounds like more Tool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7DfQMPmJRI I guess the die hard fans will be happy, but to me it sounds predictable. EDIT: for the record, I think Tool hit its creative peak on AEnima and I loved Lateralus
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 13:22 |
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On first listen the title track isn't anywhere near as good as the two new songs they'd played this spring, so it's an odd choice both for title track and lead single.
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 13:34 |
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Adam Jones' guitar work is so goddamn uncreative.
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 13:47 |
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I mean it's not 13 years' wait good, but I dig this Reflection remix Sounds like scraps put together from poo poo that was cut from Lateralus, but that's not the worst thing
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 14:23 |
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angrygodofjebus posted:I mean it's not 13 years' wait good, but I dig this Reflection remix Yeah it sounds like different poo poo from Lateralus just put on together without much of a narrative or structure. Maybe it'll get better with repeated listens but I don't know if I have the patience anymore for that.
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 14:30 |
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It's fairly enjoyable except for the terrible Adam Jones "solo" but the live videos of Descending and Invincible give me hope the rest is better. That said it's pretty funny that this sounds exactly like what you'd get if you decided to make more Lateralus/10,000 days. Guess that's where they froze stylistically. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Aug 7, 2019 |
# ? Aug 7, 2019 14:33 |
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Somebody trained a songwriting neural net using only the last 2 Tool albums, and this new one will be the result.
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 14:41 |
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It sounds like you got on Pandora 10 years ago and made a Tool station. Fear Inoculum is the first non-Tool song that plays after you thumb up the first 2 Tool songs.
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 14:57 |
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In my very humble, utterly fanboy opinion. Tool are fairly unique. I've listened to a lot of Prog Metal and they still stand out as being "Tool" And after a few albums of being "Tool" you do kinda end up writing yourself into a corner where you'll be a bit restricted by your identity. You kinda end up being "obligated' to do that thing you're known for. Sometimes that doesn't allow for extremely varied songwriting. But speaking as an utterly tragic fanboy, more 10,000 Days and Lateralus is an excellent thing and this poo poo makes me happy. I would argue it's a bit more proggy and less "metal' as it doesn't seem to have the impact it used to. It still has the weird-rear end songwriting where a bunch of disconnected elements eventually weave themselves together to forming a point. I dig it (but I kinda always was going to) H13 fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Aug 7, 2019 |
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TOOT BOOT posted:I still like Tool but I'm old and my musical tastes mostly froze in the 90s. This is me. My musical taste are basically "I'm still in high school." I like some artists that are fresh and new, but not too many.
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 15:39 |
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I ordered the silly CD/screen/book combo because I'm a consumer whore and while my tastes have changed/evolved, I still have one foot solidly in my high school tastes. It's fitting that Spotify decided to play some Soundgarden, RATM, and AIC after this song was over. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Aug 7, 2019 |
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A bunch of cool moments spread amongst it, but none of them big enough to sit thru the rest IMO. I’m too old to sit thru long extended intros, especially if they’re more “odd noise” based, I mean they aren’t making the next Shine on you crazy diamond are they. Adam Jones is their anchor I suspect. The drums sound amazing to be fair
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 19:28 |
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Anyone, when reading the about the full album package, get a real consumer wasteland vibe? Not that the rest of the world isn’t trash but imagine if a band with as much potential influence as these males decided to go down a less gimmicky-electronics route, and maybe even do something potentially environmentally aware?
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 19:32 |
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kanonvandekempen posted:They have released the title track and it sure sounds like more Tool Æenima was something that sounded like the devil himself concocted, the unity of vision amongst the band was incredible and it was like songs were conceived as whole units rather than starting with a riff or whatever. After Lateralus I was convinced Adam Jones was actually being held back by his lack of ability. The looks I would get from other Tool fans when I would suggest this was crazy lol, because I was the biggest tool fan in my late teens and still love some of their stuff, but being critical of anything about this band goes down so poorly. I don’t know of many more bands that fans have such an emotional response to criticism. The reddit thread on this new song is such an exercise in stockholm syndrome. The best thing possible would be for Tool to come out a week later and say “we made that song as a joke, with bad sounds, on purpose, to weed out those who think for themselves taste wise in music, and those who thing whatever farts we pump out smell like royal assholes”. I wish
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 19:56 |
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Origami Dali posted:Somebody trained a songwriting neural net using only the last 2 Tool albums, and this new one will be the result. This is basically how the new song sounds. Which isn't terrible. It's a good song, but not blowing me away like Aenima does.
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 20:04 |
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The three songs they put out for this album all sounds like more Tool, but I think it's fine because its not like they put out an album every year, or other year. I'll hold my judgement until the full album is out and I can hear it all but so far I don't think any of these songs are bad. More of the same yeah, but not bad.
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 21:30 |
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I think Fear Inoculum would be the worst song on 10,000 Days but I don't dislike it.
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 21:36 |
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echinopsis posted:The best thing possible would be for Tool to come out a week later and say “we made I think this was exactly my response to Vicarious. I was one of those back in the early 2000s so I'm going to listen to anything Tool throws out there, but my expectations are pretty minimal. I enjoyed this song, I guess, but yeah, I'm pretty neutral about it all. It's certainly a Tool song.
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 21:40 |
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I listened to it again and yeah some of the parts seem like they took them from older tool songs, and upon second listening the mix seems too high? Like the whole thing is mixed loud like they got whoever produced the latest Metallica albums.
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 21:48 |
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Certainly is a Tool song. They've refined an unmistakable sound for themselves. Don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing. Trent Reznor has also refined his unique sound, but his stuff is also more varied. Tool is less varied, but they have honed their craft to a t. This new track sounds a lot like Reflection (Lateralus is IMO their peak album, with Aenima a close second), and I wonder if that's why they released it as the first single to get all the fans salivating (no doubt, most of them would buy anything from them after 13 years). Used to be a huge Tool fan in high school (I guess that's most fans were) and moved away from them over the years, occasionally listening to an album or a track here and there but last decade or so much less so. The favourite tracks still rock as they did before, because they are drat fine compositions no matter how you slice and dice them or how old you are or how your music preferences have changed. Will probably get the the standard CD without all the ridiculous bells and whistles of the limited edition. Vinyl version also possible if it looks and sounds nice (I am guessing it's also coming). Considering that these guys have honed their craft for three decades, the album will certainly be good at the least, however I am fairly certain it will not be brilliant like some of their previous albums. A solid Tool album is certain and I am fine with it. They're just a great band among many others, my teenage self might not have agreed with it, but that's how I feel about it. No doubt it will be in heavy rotation once it's out for a little while before I move on to the stuff I currently prefer.
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 21:50 |
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Just finished listening to the new song for the first time. It's good and I'm satisfied. I do echo some of the sentiments in this thread though. It reminds me a little bit of Aphex Twin's "Syro". While good, it's not exactly indicative of more than a decade's worth of progress. It feels more like Tool is just picking up where they left off with 10,000 Days, which would be fine if this was 2009, but it's not, and it's not like they haven't been making music all this time since then. Still, it's just one song, and a pretty nice one at that. I'm just hoping the new record has more to it to set it apart from the other Tool albums. Also, please reprint Aenima on vinyl.
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 21:54 |
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Supposedly they've been working on remastering the whole back catalog for vinyl rerelease a for a few years. Hoping that's true. I'd love to have Lateralus on vinyl but not the loving picture disc that's available.
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 22:12 |
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The single is fine, but I'm blown away by the title FEAR INOCULUM. man that's a dumb title
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 23:16 |
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I feel like high school me back in 2003 would have been super hyped for this album, but now that i'm 34, I don't care nearly as much. Still going to listen to the album though at release.
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# ? Aug 7, 2019 23:58 |
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Am I weird for not hating the album title? Like, what’s bad about it? It’s a bunch of nonsense just like Lateralus or Aenima but it’s squarely on brand for them. The title track is a pretty bland parody of a Tool song but I agree with whoever said the other two songs sound pretty good. I only liked about half the songs on 10,000 days and thought the title track(s) off that were the worst on the album, so my expectations are pretty tempered. High school me is still somewhere inside me and is excited for this album because I haven’t been excited for an album release in like a decade and I just want to try to get hyped for something I guess. I want to see if these old farts still have an ounce of inspiration left in them.
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I think people are being hard on the song but it’s not surprising considering 10,000 days came out when George W Bush was still President and there’s a lot of expectations. Personally I feel Maynard’s vocals are on point, the lyrics are good, the drumming is REALLY good- the only thing I can see being a “parody” (in reference to the last post) is recognizable guitar progressions that may feel tired to some people but I don’t blame them for releasing something familiar to start with. It’s been over a DECADE. I am a bit nervous as a whole on the project because 85 minutes long might be EXHAUSTING for 7 tracks but even if the title track was recognizable in terms of sound, it did fly by pretty quickly. I’ve heard interviews saying none of the songs were being made for radio or as “singles” in the traditional sense so I’m hopeful when I listen to the whole thing it all makes sense.
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