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DontMindMe posted:Any tips for starting out in NGU? EXP priority and such? Things 1000% worth getting from sellout shop? You too the AP? I can't comment on early game anymore I'm too far away from it chronologically
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Eldercain posted:You too the AP? No I took the mystery prize, and can't get the AP now as a result.
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Aug 13, 2019 04:00
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The mystery prize is the real reward. You can get AP whenever, but that's only available there.
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Aug 13, 2019 09:40
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DontMindMe posted:No I took the mystery prize, and can't get the AP now as a result.  I've been using this https://ngu-idle.fandom.com/wiki/New_Player_Guide_(Truth) and it's working out pretty well.
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DontMindMe posted:Any tips for starting out in NGU? EXP priority and such? Things 1000% worth getting from sellout shop? The 100% most important thing in the sellout shop is the Improved loot filter imo, although you won't truly need it until you hit at least one Titan imo. From what I remember I just barely had enough AP for it by the time I needed it. The regular loot filter is still worth getting as a stopgap until you get there, although I forgot how much exp it costs and how high your energy stats should be before you get it. After the improved loot filter, however many inventory slots you feel you need followed by accessory slots, and then when you hit 1 energy on all basic training Instant Training Cap is very worthwhile. Don't worry about lowering your number between rebirths, if you find yourself able to play a bit more actively doing 15/30 minute rebirths for a while will net you a ton of exp. When you unlock magic, you won't need to buy any more of it with exp for a while, although increasing the speed a bit may still be worthwhile.
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Aug 13, 2019 13:36
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DontMindMe posted:No I took the mystery prize, and can't get the AP now as a result. Someday there will be a titan that you need all the daycare kitties to defeat and the foolish AP-takers will regret their words and deeds.
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Aug 13, 2019 15:11
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I got to the part in Paperclips where drifters wipe out my drones over and over and then I run out of paperclips and have to use memory to buy more. Now I'm at 70k max ops and my swarm has stopped responding, and I can only reboot my swarm by paying 100k ops, but I can only get 100k ops by rebooting my swarm. Is there a way out of this hell or did I softlock the game?
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Aug 13, 2019 19:22
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Tunahead posted:I got to the part in Paperclips where a swarm of drifters wipes out my drones over and over and then I run out of paperclips and have to use memory to buy more. Now I'm at 70k max ops and my swarm has stopped responding, and I can only reboot my swarm by paying 100k ops, but I can only get 100k ops by rebooting my swarm. Is there a way out of this hell or did I softlock the game? Iirc it is possible to get stuck, but it never happened to me. You can either cheat in some resources to get just past the hump, or maybe scale down your operation to get back into a loop you can sustain.
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Aug 13, 2019 19:26
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Cheating looks like a major hassle and scaling down my operation doesn't actually do anything to increase my max ops, which I have to do, but can't. Guess I'll just call it quits.
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Aug 13, 2019 19:37
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Tunahead posted:I got to the part in Paperclips where drifters wipe out my drones over and over and then I run out of paperclips and have to use memory to buy more. Now I'm at 70k max ops and my swarm has stopped responding, and I can only reboot my swarm by paying 100k ops, but I can only get 100k ops by rebooting my swarm. Is there a way out of this hell or did I softlock the game? I've had a point where all my drones died to drifters cause I wasn't paying attention but it _should_ be possible to build them up again even if there's, say, 300 billion drifters. Just don't put anything into defense and let your drones build up normally, the battles only take a certain percentage of your drones away so you'll still grow exponentially. Or do you mean you ran out of everything so completely that you cannot even buy your first drone to start the replication?
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Aug 13, 2019 20:12
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Little late but I also want to say I appreciate removing "gross" from the description of the bearded lady! Honestly if I weren't so committed to the game by that point it might have stopped me from playing. I've known lots of women w facial hair who are really tired of hearing this. 🖤
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Aug 13, 2019 21:54
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gently caress I think I'm gonna play Evolve again. I never made it through my first run and I think I'd like to see what lies ahead.
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100 degrees Calcium posted:gently caress I think I'm gonna play Evolve again. I never made it through my first run and I think I'd like to see what lies ahead. I'm still in my first run, I should be bringing titanium online when I get to checking in tonight e: lol i invented the internet but not casinos Captain Foo fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Aug 14, 2019 |
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Aug 14, 2019 00:03
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NGU Just beat UUG for the first time and unlocked beards. It took a 5 day rebirth to get me up to speed. I just want to make sure I do everything I need to do before falling back into rebirth cycle. Farm one of each of his rings and then hop back in the tube to rebirth?
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Aug 14, 2019 02:03
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Antimatter Dimensions normal challenge 8: do I still need to do Dimension Shift to get access to higher dimensions until I get to 8, then just sit on that building up sacrifices until the challenge is finished?
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Aug 14, 2019 02:10
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Safari Disco Lion posted:Antimatter Dimensions normal challenge 8: do I still need to do Dimension Shift to get access to higher dimensions until I get to 8, then just sit on that building up sacrifices until the challenge is finished? Yes, the shifts still unlock higher dimensionsb up to the 8th.
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Aug 14, 2019 02:14
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Xtanstic posted:NGU When you get all the rings check to see if they’re enough to break into the next zone, they’re crazy good. I... think I did this but it’s been a while.
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Aug 14, 2019 04:04
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So...uhh...NGU question I see that Yellow Heart boosts AP by 20%. Does this apply to ALL AP gains, including from sellout shop? Because if it does I made a huge mistake. EDIT: Oh, well it is only 5% base so not that bad if it does. Also, something you owe me a few favors now. DontMindMe fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Aug 14, 2019 |
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Aug 14, 2019 07:34
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GrossMurpel posted:I've had a point where all my drones died to drifters cause I wasn't paying attention but it _should_ be possible to build them up again even if there's, say, 300 billion drifters. Just don't put anything into defense and let your drones build up normally, the battles only take a certain percentage of your drones away so you'll still grow exponentially. It's an entirely operations-based problem. I can't get weapons for my drones, or any upgrades, really, because I don't have enough max ops. There are only upgrades with 100k+ operation costs and nothing else, and I have 70k max ops. No upgrades, no progress. I can't get more max ops because my thinking swarm has stopped thinking and it requires ops to reboot them and my ops are 30k lower than the required amount of ops to start getting more max ops. I still have resources for drones, and I got the settings balanced enough that they can kind of self-sustain, but nothing will ever happen again, as no upgrades are available, and never will be. It doesn't matter much anyway though, as I didn't like Paperclips that much anyway, and so I started Bitburner, and it's all terminal commands and scripts and I love everything about it.
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Aug 14, 2019 17:39
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Tunahead posted:It's an entirely operations-based problem. I can't get weapons for my drones, or any upgrades, really, because I don't have enough max ops. There are only upgrades with 100k+ operation costs and nothing else, and I have 70k max ops. No upgrades, no progress. I can't get more max ops because my thinking swarm has stopped thinking and it requires ops to reboot them and my ops are 30k lower than the required amount of ops to start getting more max ops. I still have resources for drones, and I got the settings balanced enough that they can kind of self-sustain, but nothing will ever happen again, as no upgrades are available, and never will be. I forget, is there any way to export/import saves on paperclips? I want to try it if you can.
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Aug 14, 2019 18:37
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You are right at the end, paper clips is a game you can beat in a few hours.
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Aug 14, 2019 18:47
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DontMindMe posted:So...uhh...NGU question Yea, it affects ALL sources of AP gain. When you make a level 100 yellow heart that benefit is always on. And thanks for your purchases! When i get back from my vacay (monday) you can hit me up for the goon gift if you like. Hint: it's AP
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Aug 14, 2019 22:16
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Android: I'm playing Tap Tap Evil Mastermind and it revels in the sensory overload design of games. The pixel art is pretty good and the sound design is all rewarding beeps and boops, some of the tracks even being oddly reminiscing of GBC Pokemon games.
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Aug 15, 2019 06:33
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Huh. For NGU idle, does the daycare count as a accessory slot? I have my yellow heart in there and I think it’s giving me the AP gains.
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Aug 15, 2019 16:34
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It doesn't. Completing achievements gives a bonus to AP, though, so that may be what you're seeing.
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Aug 15, 2019 18:14
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NGU Is there any guidance on prioritizing NGUs/Wandoos I find myself with some extra energy after the first hour of a rebirth outside of activating fruits and am not sure where the best place to put it is
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The Fool posted:NGU If you have bosses to kill to unlock a zone/titan you want to be in in adventure, wandoos can sometimes get you there. In almost all cases NGU is a better use of energy though as the levels are permanant and carry through rebirths/work in (most) challenges
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Right now my bosses are far enough ahead of my adventure that I have access to 3 zones and a Titan that I can't touch.
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The Fool posted:Right now my bosses are far enough ahead of my adventure that I have access to 3 zones and a Titan that I can't touch. This is normal. Heck, I had 2 untouchable titans at one point. Pumping bosses is still good for getting the time machine multiplier up.
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Seems there was a mystery update to evolve? Going to poke around, see what that might have been. (Oh and a new challenge option that disables morale boosters. Ouch.)
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I reinstalled the app Idle Kingdom Clicker. It's a hex based civ building Android game. I quit playing last year because all there was to do was reset for bigger numbers. Well there's a tech tree now and you can actually unlock tech to get on new tiles you couldn't before and new buildings etc The cheapest tech is literal days before it unlocks. So I bounce over to the discord and ask about if I'm doing something wrong and I'm not. The mechanic is just based around having been continually resetting for the last year when there was no other content. The discord crew over there doesn't understand that's bad, dumb, and needs rebalanced. Coming in from only haveing 200k prestige points it's going to still be multiple real life days to get the cheapest upgrade. But it's fine. This is a good mechanic and doesn't need rebalanced at all.
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That's how a lot of idle games are, devs with h a vision and a small community with a few gently caress you got mine people being in control. I mean it's kind of games in general, but idle games are the most likely to have a dev that will just keep releasing new content for a year with players actually sticking around the entire time tracking up resources.
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Aug 16, 2019 12:09
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I've gotten to the point in Antimatter Dimensions where I broke infinity and got all of my challenges down to below 1.5 seconds, I have all the auto buyers upgraded, and as far as I can tell the only way now to increase my IP/sec is tweaking the rebirth cycles? I'm sure I'm doing something wrong or don't fully understand some of the mechanics but right now I'm not playing the game at all for 1-2 day stretches while I build up enough IP to get one upgrade and then wait another couple of days to build it up again. I was really into the game at the start, trying to get all the auto buyers and finding out how fast I could do an IP run but now that it's just optimizing the autobuyer settings I'm pretty much done with it. Things really built to a crescendo after breaking infinity and then dropped off a cliff entirely.
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There are some lull moments in the game, yea. Did you mean the Normal Challenges? Infinity Dimensions and Infinity Challenges blow up your IP/min pretty hard but I have no idea what upgrades you're buying.
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Samuringa posted:There are some lull moments in the game, yea. Normal challenges, I haven't unlocked the infinity challenges yet so maybe that's what I'm doing wrong? Edit: Yeah, I think I see what I'm doing now. I've been doing quick rebirths to build up IP without realizing I need to save antimatter to unlock more stuff. 
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Also, check if a quick Crunch is really the most profitable you can do. Let a run go for around ~5min and see what the peak IP/min you reach is, then set your autobuyer to cut it at that point. At this point, you have a Statistics option that shows your last 10 infinities - as well as other info - that helps with the balancing.
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explosivo posted:I've gotten to the point in Antimatter Dimensions where I broke infinity and got all of my challenges down to below 1.5 seconds, I have all the auto buyers upgraded, and as far as I can tell the only way now to increase my IP/sec is tweaking the rebirth cycles? I'm sure I'm doing something wrong or don't fully understand some of the mechanics but right now I'm not playing the game at all for 1-2 day stretches while I build up enough IP to get one upgrade and then wait another couple of days to build it up again. I was really into the game at the start, trying to get all the auto buyers and finding out how fast I could do an IP run but now that it's just optimizing the autobuyer settings I'm pretty much done with it. Things really built to a crescendo after breaking infinity and then dropped off a cliff entirely. Yeah, I am playing that on mobile (though it apparently has slightly higher production on mobile) and I was there a few days ago, but I did not have to take several days. You should have a Galaxy auto-buyer - my recommendation is to do what Samuringa suggested; let the Galaxy auto-buyer buy as many as it can, let dimension boost go hog wild, and see what your "peak" IP/min in the current Infinity is. Figure out how many total IP you are at when that peak number appears and set your Big Crunch there. Your runs should probably be a lot shorter - I found that after a while, my Big Crunch numbers settled to be around how much IP I got right after my last Galaxy and all of the quickly-bought Boosts. Infinity Challenges are a reasonable way off - you'll really take off on IP generation once you get some of the infinity upgrades. If you want some more specific help, you could always take a look at this guide on the Wiki, which is pretty helpful (but obviously a little spoilery if you want to figure it out yourself) Also, definitely this: Samuringa posted:Also, check if a quick Crunch is really the most profitable you can do. Let a run go for around ~5min and see what the peak IP/min you reach is, then set your autobuyer to cut it at that point. At this point, you have a Statistics option that shows your last 10 infinities - as well as other info - that helps with the balancing.
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I'm running NGU in chrome and it seems like it's running significantly worse since the last update. Anyone else experience this or should I be poking around on my computer to solve the problem?
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Thanks for the help, I do have some infinity upgrades already purchased, I was able to save up 2e7 IP with enough time so I have the first 3 of the two columns purchased already. I think I have to separate myself from thinking that faster runs = better gains. I guess I'm not even really positive what it is I'm doing that makes the IP go up and why longer runs would make that happen. "Short runs: Automatic Dimboosts set to 0/10, Automatic Galaxies set to 1, Automatic Big Crunch set to how much you make in 0.5-1.5 seconds. " I see stuff like this on the guide you posted which kind of helps but I don't quite understand the "Dimboosts 0/10" part. Is that "Max 8ths - 0 / galaxies required 10"? I feel like I am setting them up according to those recommendations and nothing happens.
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explosivo posted:Thanks for the help, I do have some infinity upgrades already purchased, I was able to save up 2e7 IP with enough time so I have the first 3 of the two columns purchased already. I think I have to separate myself from thinking that faster runs = better gains. I guess I'm not even really positive what it is I'm doing that makes the IP go up and why longer runs would make that happen. You've got it right. "Max 8ths" is the maximum number of 8th dimensions to spend on Boosting automatically and "Galaxies Required" is the number of galaxies at which the Max setting gets ignored. Right now setting it to 0/10 but on means it will do all of the Shifts to unlock new dimensions automatically but it won't buy any Boosts until you have 10 antimatter galaxies (right now, that's effectively never). The idea is that Boosts currently don't increase your IP/min, so you're better off not buying any. Eventually your multipliers will increase and you'll unlock the ability to buy Boosts in bulk, at which point this will change pretty significantly.
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