Total Meatlove posted:

You saw Partick had retained counsel in the other thread, the SPFL held a vote, the teams all voted. The result was no.

Total Meatlove posted:

How’d they change the rules on votes without a board being convened? Don’t see the ‘if we don’t like the vote we’ll pretend it didn’t happen’ clause?

trem_two posted:

It's going over well, I see
https://twitter.com/RangersFC/status/1258358544870580225

Troy Queef posted:

i'm not the only one who saw this tweet and imagined Ian Paisley saying it, am i?

Douglas Park posted:

https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/interim-chairman-douglas-park-qa/

8: Several clubs have indicated they would consider voting for your proposal but are concerned about the cost of an Independent Investigation. Would you offer to cover the costs of any investigation?

Cost should never be a barrier to proper governance. If our resolution is passed on Tuesday we will be willing to fund the costs of an Independent Investigation covering the scope outlined in our resolution.

quote:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kelty-hearts-brora-rangers-accuse-21998785

Hearts and Brora Rangers have released a joint statement accusing the SPFL of pressuring the Lowland League into rule changes.

The tier five champions are both left fizzing that reconstruction talks have collapsed and it means they won’t be playing league football next campaign.

And they're demanding answers from the SPFL over the 4 way agreement in place about the pyramid playoff and say rule changes have benefited Brechin City, who have their chairman on the league board.

Ken Ferguson is one of the lower league’s representatives and the joint statement insists the Glebe Park club are the only team to benefit from the change.

Normally, the Highland and Lowland League champions would play a playoff to face the bottom club in League Two but that won't happen this season.

Total Meatlove posted:

Rangers chairman did a Q and A.


Can’t wait to see how the decade long defenders of sporting integrity and sanctity of admin law argue against the idea now.


That’s alongside Brora and Kelty asking questions of how Brechin ended up voting to avoid their own relegation.

Jose posted:

Put rangers and Ibroxmassive out of their misery

quote:

https://ictfc.com/club-update

We won’t revisit the entire farrago or look to address all of the the arrogant, aggressive, mismanagement of what has been a stain on the reputation of the SPFL but we will try to enlighten everyone with regards to the stance we took at the beginning of this grossly mismanaged process.

When the club was given notice of the Championship club zoom conference call which was due to take place on the 8th April, there was no indication of what was to be discussed at all. There is nothing unusual in that as previous club conference calls had all been general updates. Rumours began to circulate on the night of the 7th that we would be asked to vote on clubs being relegated in order for fee payments to be paid out. We spoke to a fellow Championship club that evening for confirmation of this and they told us that they too had also heard the rumour and they were so alarmed that they had actually asked our SPFL Board representative if it was true. He assured them it was mere speculation and so while we were wary, we did not believe it could be possible as we had all been talking about finding a solution which allowed for no individual club being put in a worse situation than we were all already in.

It was a huge shock on the morning of Wednesday the 8th when STV was leaked the story that we would in fact be voting to relegate Hearts, Partick Thistle and Stranraer but not Brechin City and we would have 2 and a half days to either do it, or come up with an alternative solution – something the SPFL Executive were insisting was simply impossible anyway. We were then promised that this critically important and lengthy resolution document would be with us prior to all of the divisional meetings starting at around noon. The Premiership clubs were dialling in at noon, the Championship at 1pm, the 1st Division at 2pm and Division 2 at 3pm.

We believe that the Premiership clubs were not furnished with the document until after their meeting ended at 1pm which is quite astonishing. Our meeting was delayed until several minutes after 1pm due to what seemed like a panicked and delayed information dump of the resolution to all clubs and the press and after the usual preambles and our SPFL CEO finished speaking, we were left with less than 30 minutes to ask questions on a crucial document which we were frantically trying to speed read, while at the same time listen to the complex “reasoning” that was being given by our SPFL CEO and our SPFL legal advisor. In short, they presented the resolution as the only option. Numerous times the phrases “a gun to our head” or “take it or leave it” were used by various clubs on the call, including by ICTFC.

Without going into the specifics at this time, please know that we will testify to the bullying and threats made against our club on Friday 10th by an SPFL Board member and the threats against others by the same SPFL Board member and how these threats were “reported back to the centre” and to the SPFL CEO directly on the day with evidence at any genuine independent investigation with the proper and appropriate scope, should there be one, or at any further subsequent action thereafter. These were threats and not robust conversations.

We believe that serious questions remain over the actions of the MD of one club during the now infamous vote on April 10th and what happened between the submission of their legally binding ‘No’ vote before the fake 5pm deadline and 5 days later when they became the only club out of 42 to have “negotiations” with the CEO and Chairman of the SPFL and with “big hitters” or persons unknown, before being allowed to vote for a second time. This time to carry the SPFL Board’s resolution with a Yes vote. A genuinely independent investigation is the only possible route to try and uncover what happened and it may or may not reveal the reasoning behind their apparently contradictory statements since then.

Total Meatlove posted:

Can’t wait to see how the decade long defenders of sporting integrity and sanctity of admin law argue against the idea now.

jre posted:

BisonDollah posted:

https://twitter.com/SimpsonsSPFL/status/1258344339375259648

Total Meatlove posted:

Like our post break form, I was expecting too much and now I’m disappointed

jre posted:

Just say that you want to get it up Celtic by stopping them getting nine in a row instead of pretending you actually give the slightest gently caress about some how highland league part time teams were treated. You didn't care about it when sevco were getting put into the league ahead of spartans despite not meeting the criteria for a place.

Every team who were disadvantaged by the early finish are going to make noise about it, but no-one is able to come with a perfectly fair alternative where no-one gets hosed so it's all just posturing to try and get concessions from the SPFL

Total Meatlove posted:

Can’t see anything going wrong from here on out.

quote:

But McArthur hit back when he released a statement of his own on Dunfermline’s official website, rejecting Gardiner’s claims and giving details of a counter proposal to null and void the league.

Record Sport has received confirmation from five other Championship clubs - Alloa, Arbroath, Ayr United, Morton and Queen of the South - that they ‘fully endorse and support’ McArthur’s version of events.

He said: “Since the SPFL director’s resolution was first issued, a number of clubs in the Championship would confirm it is the behaviour of Inverness that has continually been aggressive and confrontational.

“However, no one felt it necessary to win points in public, as robust conversations take place in the normal course of a competitive business like football.

One Championship club told us: “Scot’s proposal was to effectively null and void all four divisions. When you consider the catastrophic financial ramifications for all clubs it was hard for anyone to understand his motivation. Even now it’s still impossible to figure out what Inverness Caley Thistle thought they would gain from doing that.”

jre posted:

What did you make of every other team who were in that meeting with Inverness releasing statements saying that they were talking shite ?
And then to a man voting against the resolution ?

Bit weird that given they'd all been bullied by the SPFL.

Total Meatlove posted:

From the results I’ve seen, a third of all league clubs voted for the inquiry. Obviously misses the mark to have it go through, but that’s still a worrying number with a lack of faith in governance, and it’ll rumble for a while. If those clubs wanted to show that Inverness where talking bollocks they had an opportunity to do it and bottled it.

jre posted:

Are you seriously suggesting that people who know for a fact there is no issue should vote to spend £100,000s of money the SPFL doesn't have on QC fees to prove it because Douglas Park is a fuckwit ? There already has been one independent inquiry, why would the result of a second be any more palatable when it doesn't go your way ?

Chas McGill posted:

These resources would've been better spent constructing a league system without Celtic or Rangers.

Total Meatlove posted:

I mean BisonDollah is a tit, but he isn’t pretending that everything’s rosy at the SPFL off the back of the vote, just that the leagues a poo poo mountain and you’re currently kings of it. Why are you?

Chas McGill posted:

These resources would've been better spent constructing a league system without Celtic or Rangers.

Total Meatlove posted:

I mean BisonDollah is a tit, but he isn’t pretending that everything’s rosy at the SPFL off the back of the vote, just that the leagues a poo poo mountain and you’re currently kings of it. Why are you?


You’d probably get votes for punting the rest into the English pyramid and leaving us behind. More TV money too.

Total Meatlove posted:

“It’s sad that clubs are making decisions on sectarian grounds and it’s bad for the game”

“Those orange hun bastards are ruining everything”

quote:

Rangers say "the status quo cannot hold" despite clubs rejecting their call for an independent inquiry into the SPFL's vote to end the season.

Thirteen clubs backed Rangers, Hearts and Stranraer's call for an inquiry, with 27 against and two abstentions.

The Ibrox club said the vote "has erased the false narrative of this issue simply being a conflict between one club and the SPFL".

It added that many member clubs had lost faith in the SPFL leadership.

Following a vote at Tuesday's EGM on whether April's ballot to end the lower league season should be investigated, SPFL chairman Murdoch MacLennan said the game "cannot afford the distraction of further infighting or legal challenges".

However, Rangers said there are "serious issues and failings which remain to be addressed".

SPFL clubs vote against investigation
Background to SPFL EGM
Celtic welcome 'decisive' vote against inquiry
"All we sought was urgently required scrutiny, respect for all member clubs, fairness and transparency," the club said in a statement.

"Significantly, support for the Hearts, Stranraer and Rangers requisition spanned the four professional divisions. Member clubs, recognising the need for Scottish football to improve its governance and professionalism, have moved beyond sporting rivalries and it would be unwise to regard this result as any kind of endorsement of the SPFL executive.

"A management culture which not only fears accountability and scrutiny, but which actively campaigns against it, is unhealthy and breeds continued mistrust. This culture, so deeply embedded, must be addressed if Scottish football is to flourish.

"It is clear that many members have lost confidence in the SPFL leadership and the need for change will not diminish. The status quo cannot hold."

BisonDollah posted:

When did I say sectarianism was bad for the game? Arguably it's the reason Celtic are and Rangers were the most rich and powerful. More sectarianism from more clubs is needed. Dundee Utd Antifa vs. Dundee Fascists, Inverness KKK vs. Ross County Women's Lib. As loving daft as this post is it's contributing more than the latest hun statement.

jre posted:

You're the one who introduced the Inverness stuff to the thread. It appears on the balance of probability to be complete bollocks now based on what all the other championship clubs have said. Do you agree it was made up bollocks or do you still be believe Gardiner despite six accounts to contrary ?

Total Meatlove posted:

Apologies, I forgot I was talking to a Celtic fan and assumed lying stagnant was intended as a negative.

Total Meatlove posted:

Appears on balance that some clubs wanted one thing and voted and acted accordingly, and so did others. If only some kind of independent third party could take a look at what’s alleged and come to a conclusion on it all.

Total Meatlove posted:

Can’t wait to see how Rangers twitter responds.

9* in a row?
8 1/2 in a row?
Stolen title?

So many options.

jre posted:

https://twitter.com/RhebelRhebel/status/1262476348959928324/photo/1