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Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008



Anya's little pat of encouragement at the end there is simply too cute

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Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

The Entire Freakin' John Galt Speech


Super Jay Mann posted:

Anya's little pat of encouragement at the end there is simply too cute
Also Anya: *Blegh*

Carpator Diei
Feb 26, 2011


Brought To You By posted:

So the Stasi aren't as overbearing as the early chapters depicted the culture of state police, or maybe it's just this instance because Yuri understands this guy's plight.
I'm not sure about that; it's not a good sign when even the children threaten to rat people out to the secret police. And Yuri still trailed that guy's every move for multiple days.

Brought To You By
Oct 31, 2012


Carpator Diei posted:

I'm not sure about that; it's not a good sign when even the children threaten to rat people out to the secret police. And Yuri still trailed that guy's every move for multiple days.

I guess I'm grading on a curve since I consider not also arresting the father just because of his proximity to his son and Yuri and the state more than likely delivering on financial aid to be better than expected

A Sometimes Food
Dec 8, 2010

I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING



Honestly I'm mostly surprised at the confirmation that the state is supposedly socialist based on the journalist's threats. Like to the point I'm wondering about the original Japanese, cause Ostia hasn't even really displayed the pretence of communism before now.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

The Entire Freakin' John Galt Speech


Carpator Diei posted:

I'm not sure about that; it's not a good sign when even the children threaten to rat people out to the secret police. And Yuri still trailed that guy's every move for multiple days.
Personally I find that rather standard for police intel. Multi-day trailing is efficient; having gaps in surveillance as an intelligence agent would be sloppy. Children likely get rewarded for ratting (better grades, scholarships, etc).

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008


A Sometimes Food posted:

Honestly I'm mostly surprised at the confirmation that the state is supposedly socialist based on the journalist's threats. Like to the point I'm wondering about the original Japanese, cause Ostia hasn't even really displayed the pretence of communism before now.

I thought it'd have been obvious, what with Yuri's uniform/job, his nation being 'Ostania' and the whole setting being set in a not-Cold War, it was obvious it was Not!East Berlin.

A Sometimes Food
Dec 8, 2010

I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING



CommissarMega posted:

I thought it'd have been obvious, what with Yuri's uniform/job, his nation being 'Ostania' and the whole setting being set in a not-Cold War, it was obvious it was Not!East Berlin.

I mean those things sure. But then you had the big ritzy shopping mall, the expensive private school the obvious financial elite. The Eastern Bloc had rich elites too but they usually hid that poo poo behind at least a veneer of adhering to socialist principles even when it was a farce. And people's everyday lives seem to be run like under capitalism with standard commerce and poo poo. Yuri and the Secret Police are a thing but like, that's hardly a uniquely socialist idea. All the propaganda we've seen so far has been purely nationalist and that's what Desmond is identified as too. Ostania seems more Pinochet than Iron Curtain.

Syritta
Jun 28, 2012


A Sometimes Food posted:

Honestly I'm mostly surprised at the confirmation that the state is supposedly socialist based on the journalist's threats. Like to the point I'm wondering about the original Japanese, cause Ostia hasn't even really displayed the pretence of communism before now.

There's no way it's not supposed to be the GDR on some level. It's clearly working off Cold War spy fiction.

The journalist refers to the ideology, but it could just be an ideology not actually reflected in the economic organization. But that's probably overthinking a comedy.

Lt. Lizard
Apr 28, 2013


CommissarMega posted:

I thought it'd have been obvious, what with Yuri's uniform/job, his nation being 'Ostania' and the whole setting being set in a not-Cold War, it was obvious it was Not!East Berlin.

Reminder that Twilight's main target is wealthy businessman as well as leader of a Ostanians nationalistic party and a plot point in one of previous chapters was his company buying out the company of one of Damien's schoolmates. Which doesn't really track to communism, even Soviet-era style communism very well.

Carpator Diei
Feb 26, 2011


Lt. Lizard posted:

Reminder that Twilight's main target is wealthy businessman as well as leader of a Ostanians nationalistic party and a plot point in one of previous chapters was his company buying out the company of one of Damien's schoolmates. Which doesn't really track to communism, even Soviet-era style communism very well.
It would be kind of hilarious if Ostania is a capitalist dictatorship and Westalis is a socialist democracy.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012






Brought To You By posted:

It's a Yuri chapter this week no that that kind

What? Oh, oh oh, right, I forgot about him.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011



It's also weird because like in previous chapters you've had open speeches by opposition parties, which was VERY MUCH not an Eastern Bloc feature.

There WERE actually "elections" in the Soviet Union, though I'm not sure about the GDR specifically, they just only had one candidate on the ballot for positions.

Carpator Diei
Feb 26, 2011


Rody One Half posted:

There WERE actually "elections" in the Soviet Union, though I'm not sure about the GDR specifically, they just only had one candidate on the ballot for positions.
The GDR had a few other parties, but they were almost 100% controlled opposition; the elections only offered a "Yes" or "No" choice on a pre-arranged distribution of parliamentary seats between the parties (pre-arranged by the ruling Socialist Unity Party, of course). The elections were not really confidential because not filling out the ballot was counted as a Yes vote, so entering the voting booth instead of just folding up the unmarked ballot and throwing it into the urn was taken as an indication that you were voting No (or that you were striking off some persons on the pre-arranged list, which was theoretically an option), and that would most likely get you in trouble.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!


I kinda see Ostania as basically a situation where Gorbachev reforms have "worked" and you've got a sort of mess of reformist elements and hardliners.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

The Entire Freakin' John Galt Speech


Fangz posted:

I kinda see Ostania as basically a situation where Gorbachev reforms have "worked" and you've got a sort of mess of reformist elements and hardliners.
(Implying Gorbachev's reforms worked here implies that the sudden influx of hyper-capitalism into a highly stagnant economy did not uproot the whole soviet project. Clearly this is a hybrid dictatorship with socialist characteristics, multiple parties, and capital roots.)

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!


quote:

Implying Gorbachev's reforms worked here implies that the sudden influx of hyper-capitalism into a highly stagnant economy did not uproot the whole soviet project

Uh? what?

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

MORT cancels dance: interrupted by MORT


I mean... China is right over there...

Sleng Teng
May 3, 2009



Grouchio posted:

(Implying Gorbachev's reforms worked here implies that the sudden influx of hyper-capitalism into a highly stagnant economy did not uproot the whole soviet project. Clearly this is a hybrid dictatorship with socialist characteristics, multiple parties, and capital roots.)

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Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS



New chapter

https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/spy-x-family-chapter-42/chapter/22085?action=read

https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1009017

I love this series, also foreshadowing at the end?

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013


The plot thickens and the final panel is gold. worf



I do love seeing the kids be kids together.

Mulderman
Mar 20, 2009

Did someone say axe magnet?

Last chapter didn't do much for me.
This was 100% comedy gold though.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

The Entire Freakin' John Galt Speech


RAAAAAAAWR!

Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008



Damian is completely wrapped around Anya's little finger and she has no idea.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008


Electric Phantasm posted:

I love this series, also foreshadowing at the end?

It certainly seems like it, though I think I might be a little too dumb to understand what exactly is being foreshadowed, unless there's some kind of hidden land where they all speak like Shakespeare, or if there's a research lab where they all speak classically for some reason.

Super Jay Mann posted:

Damian is completely wrapped around Anya's little finger and she has no idea.

I like how Damian never actually thinks 'man, I like this girl!', so the only way Anya will ever pick up on it is by gaining the life experience she doesn't have yet

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos



In case you forgot, Anya is probably a year younger than the rest of the group, or maybe even a little more.



She might be a dumb dumb naturally, but being a year younger is a big disadvantage in first grade.

InspectorCarbonara
Jul 2, 2010

Evening, patrolmaaan.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007





lloyd is a good dad

Zerilan
Jan 11, 2008

I have to believe I can do this.





golden bubble posted:

She might be a dumb dumb naturally, but being a year younger is a big disadvantage in first grade.

Powers aside she's pretty smart for her age really to even be keeping up then.

fucking love Fiona Apple
Jun 19, 2013

samus comfy so what



A four year old from an orphanage being able to keep up with a bunch of rich 6 year olds who've probably had tutoring is very impressive. I don't think she's dumb at all.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010




Yeah, honestly Anya is terrifyingly smart considering how young she is and the fact she has the thoughts of everyone around her constantly in her head. The fact she's managed to build out her own personality or understand enough to keep all of the myriad secrets she does keep is insanely impressive.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012





loving love Fiona Apple posted:

A four year old from an orphanage being able to keep up with a bunch of rich 6 year olds who've probably had tutoring is very impressive. I don't think she's dumb at all.

I think Hina from later on in Hinamatsuri is a decent comparison point in some ways.

Both Hina and Anya aren't stupid. They act stupid due to circumstances, sure, (Anya being four in a school for 6 year old children of wealth, Hina being lazy and sleeping through school every day of her life) but when the rubber hits the road, they're able to easily keep up with the average, and even have moments of brilliance.

The thing is, they're not geniuses either, so there's no big moments to counter the moments of being stupid, (and Anya has the whole psychic thing) leaving an impression of them being much stupider than they are.

Overlord K
Jun 14, 2009


I kind of got the impression she might be picking up the language stuff due to constantly reading Lloyd, though since it's a manga kind of hard to tell how Lloyd's thoughts are organized.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007


hina isn't stupid, she's just a terrible person.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012





gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

hina isn't stupid, she's just a terrible person.

Part 1 Hina is stupid.

Part 2 Hina is super scum.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006





Lt. Lizard
Apr 28, 2013


Agent Mama is less smart than a stuffed penguin Agent Penguinman

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007


harsh, but true.

Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008



Life Skills at 5 seems slightly generous.

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Catpetter1981
Apr 9, 2020


Super Jay Mann posted:

Life Skills at 5 seems slightly generous.

The ability to kick things really, really hard is a valuable life skill that compensates for deficiencies in a host of other areas.

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