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marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i worked at a hollywood video in the day and DVD Decrypter + img burn created my dvd library

more generally to the OP i think eventually all information should be free. also, we shouldn't rely on capitalism anymore. as automation progresses it's not necessary for everyone to be working, so using a system where everyone needs some sort of standard currency obtained via labor is becoming obsolete. that's my answer for the dumb artists need to get paid counterargument

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Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G

Bonzo posted:

I bought the Sopranos on bluray because it's one of my favorite shows and I wanted a high quality company that wasn't going to be a 850GB torrent that I'd have to seed for a year.

But when I go to watch them, I have to sit though a 3 or 5 minute "ALSO ON HBO!" preview of shows that were canceled 10 years ago. Can't fast forward or skip it all.

Same but I Love Lucy and all the previews are Dragnet.

Dr. Video Games 0112
Jan 7, 2004

serious business
Back in my day we used to borow vhs from Blockbuster and tape a copy if the movie was good and pass them around :corsair:

Nyan Bread
Mar 17, 2006

Quote-Unquote posted:


You should be allowed to charge the distributor money because they are stealing your bandwidth.

Isn't that one of the principal points behind the defense of web/app ad-blockers from litigation claiming loss of revenue due to decreased user reach? I think so, because the opportunistic, auxiliary to the use of the product, draining of your bandwidth via nonconsentual advertising leaves stakeholders on shaky ground in launching a lawsuit against ad-blockers.

What's enabling these owners and/or distributors of ad-riddled products to waste the bandwidth you are paying for, which could be productively spent browsing xhamster? If they are to argue that forcefully impoverishing your bandwidth cap (and moreso your precious smut-perusing time) is reflected in the lower price of their product, why not ask for your consent or do your have to read every agreement on every website's legal section?

If there's an implicit agreement to watch these ads just by using their product, why the heck are you being asked nowadays in big bold letters to explicitly agree to the collection and use of your private data, when for me my monthly bandwidth is still more expensive and valuable than my smut breadcrumbs? :iiam:

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Dr. Video Games 0112 posted:

Back in my day we used to borow vhs from Blockbuster and tape a copy if the movie was good and pass them around :corsair:

I ran a video store for two years and had the whole VCR lab setup at home to copy movies. 5 of my friends and I all worked for the same local chain at one time and we had hundreds and hundreds of movies on low quality VHS tapes.

Most libraries now let you borrow DVDs and CDs now.

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy
For years I would take 10 minutes out of each month to sign up for a free trial of Netflix, HBO Go, and Spotify, and set it up to not renew at the end of the month. Then the next month I'd use the "one-time online purchase credit card number generator" thingy that my credit card offers as a feature, and use the new card number to do all the free trials over again.

Watched the whole last season of Game of Thrones that way. I gave up on Spotify because Soundcloud has way more obscure nerd music and they run less ads, and their free version lets you repeat songs.

Also I guess there's some legal loophole now where you can stream movies online from this site by using your library card to "check out" the movie?: https://www.kanopy.com

Also all my friends have Plex servers these days.

Also I don't need to pirate games because by some twist of fate all my favorite games are F2P (Path of Exile, MTG Arena, Warframe)

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



Any form of advertising that makes it more difficult for me to access the thing I want to see can gently caress off, frankly, and doubly so if I've paid already.

You have to pay ~£150 a year to watch broadcast TV in the UK and lol if I'm going to give money to the right-wing mouthpiece that is the BBC, and like 99% of the rest of TV is also poo poo that I have to pay for and then sit through adverts. And then you get cable and you pay like £500 a year for a thousand more channels which are all poo poo 99-100% of the time, with even more adverts. So I got rid of TV.

Streaming was a breath of fresh air for a moment and now that's fracturing into a dozen different services all wanting £100 a year each because they decided that the fortune that they were raking in wasn't enough.

Of course I can spend £15 to go to the cinema and watch a film and be forced to watch half an hour of adverts before I can watch the film I paid to see.

Spotify Premium, on the other hand, has almost everything I want and the rest can be legitimately acquired cheaply. I can't remember the last time I pirated music, and I still spend loads on physical media for stuff I really love (I just spent £180 on the new Type O Negative 12-record box set) because it's awesome. It's weird how the music industry has gone from suing literally everybody to getting their poo poo together and embracing technology in a sensible, consumer-focussed manner in the last 20 years while Hollywood has decided that making GBS threads all over anyone that wants to purchase their products is cool and good.

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
yeah if companies do their job right, users actually want to pay for some things, but a lot of companies think they know better than consumers and you get piracy. basically if companies werent such dicks in general they wouldnt have these problems. like DRM exponentially advanced piracy

Mooey Cow
Jan 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Pillbug

Quote-Unquote posted:

And then you get cable and you pay like £500 a year for a thousand more channels which are all poo poo 99-100% of the time, with even more adverts.

This is the hosed up thing about cable. You pay millions of bux for it and then it still has ads??? And often even more ads than the free channels somehow. Like, getting rid of the goddamn ads is something I might consider worth paying for, but that's never an option.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
It’s kinda lol they even tried to crack down on dvr/TiVo. tbf I didn’t mind ads on tv back in the day when I still watched it (cut off tv service for good in 2007) because it was an excuse to get up and take a piss and make some food or something. I think it’s more egregious and stupid on poo poo like Hulu which not only did you have to pay for premium but that didn’t even get rid of ads and you have to pay an extra tier

Slayerjerman
Nov 27, 2005

by sebmojo
Piracy 101: Its not stealing if you have a Letter of Marque from someone in charge. Or at least that's what I've learned from historical studies. In the case with the internet, I'm just a privateer, not a thief :yarr:

Mooey Cow
Jan 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Pillbug

Slayerjerman posted:

Piracy 101: Its not stealing if you have a Letter of Marque from someone in charge. Or at least that's what I've learned from historical studies. In the case with the internet, I'm just a privateer, not a thief :yarr:

Just add the disclaimer "No property rights violation intended" while looting and the royal navy can't do nothing.

DeathCrabForCutie
Jul 14, 2019
oh fuc-
I'm pro-pirating anything made by big studios/labels. Pirating things you can buy direct from the creator just makes you a cheap dick.

Also fun fact for any Canadian goons: piracy's completely legal, as long as you save it to an external device. Because it's protected under the same laws as DVRs etc.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Part-Time Maenad posted:

I'm pro-pirating anything made by big studios/labels. Pirating things you can buy direct from the creator just makes you a cheap dick.

Also fun fact for any Canadian goons: piracy's completely legal, as long as you save it to an external device. Because it's protected under the same laws as DVRs etc.

That must be why I see so many Canadian TV logos on shows that get uploaded.

Which reminds me of how stupid things work up here. CBS All Access doesn't have (and won't have) the new Star Trek shows since they air on Space Channel which is owned by Bell. That makes the app totally useless unless you love CSI and Love Boat.

Games I gave up pirating. I had a Wii which was hacked and that was ok but I mainly game on my PS4. I find the $70 a month access to all the stuff on PSN Plus not bad. If I don't like the game I just delete it.

Original_Z
Jun 14, 2005
Z so good
You guys remember Aereo? Streaming OTA TV over the internet but got shut down fast, probably the cable networks realized what would happen if they offered a legal IPTV service for reasonable prices! I guess it's happening again now with Locast.

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Quote-Unquote posted:

Of course I can spend £15 to go to the cinema and watch a film and be forced to watch half an hour of adverts before I can watch the film I paid to see.

It's incredible that they can get away with this poo poo. Yes I want so see a 30 sec 3 frames slideshow for the local golf course, and the trailer that's all over YouTube tyvm

JK Fresco
Jul 5, 2019

Bonzo posted:

That must be why I see so many Canadian TV logos on shows that get uploaded.

Which reminds me of how stupid things work up here. CBS All Access doesn't have (and won't have) the new Star Trek shows since they air on Space Channel which is owned by Bell. That makes the app totally useless unless you love CSI and Love Boat.

Games I gave up pirating. I had a Wii which was hacked and that was ok but I mainly game on my PS4. I find the $70 a month access to all the stuff on PSN Plus not bad. If I don't like the game I just delete it.

Wait it's seriously $70 a month to play games online? Seriously?

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
My bad. That's 70 a year

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Bonzo posted:

That must be why I see so many Canadian TV logos on shows that get uploaded.


No that's because some shows are shown there earlier than anywhere else in the world (In Eastern Canada I think).

cardedagain
Aug 28, 2006

Labes for days posted:

I miss getting all my music from LimeWire

including: the Pro version of Limewire.

remember Scour or Morpheus? anyone?
what the hell is an edonkey?

was PeerGuardian a placebo?

cardedagain fucked around with this message at 09:43 on Aug 17, 2019

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:
I was on WinMx because the low-fi aesthetic was strong

I'm trying to list these things from memory:

Kazza
WinMx
Limewire
MediaMonkey
Morpheus

KakerMix fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Aug 17, 2019

Cynic Jester
Apr 11, 2009

Let's put a simile on that face
A dazzling simile
Twinkling like the night sky
DC++, hunting for people with BBB to download from. Ah, memories.

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

cardedagain posted:

including: the Pro version of Limewire.

remember Scour or Morpheus? anyone?
what the hell is an edonkey?

was PeerGuardian a placebo?

peerguardian did actually do stuff but it wasn't what you really needed to do to be anonymous file sharing. you need a vpn

JK Fresco
Jul 5, 2019
SoulSeek

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

Taste my Ball of Hope, foul dragon!


cardedagain posted:

including: the Pro version of Limewire.

remember Scour or Morpheus? anyone?
what the hell is an edonkey?

was PeerGuardian a placebo?

Oh man. I’m trying to remember the order now for me.

eDonkey
Kazaa
Limewire
DC++ (once I made it to college)

I definitely downloaded malware off limewire once. It was a video of some half naked woman standing in a library just waving at the camera, like some Independence Day style homage minus the cigar. I spent a day or two searching the internet on how to remove it via messing with my registry. Good times.

I got that nordVPN for the rare times I do get something. I rarely get music, and never games. It’s basically the occasional movie I didn’t see in the theater or tv shows.

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i might be old and over paranoid but i never get anything that executes code like a game or app anymore. you are asking to mine bitcoins for someone in russia or china. media doesnt execute code and the streaming service shuffles makes it hard to ever have a 'library' of standard things so i spent $120 for a lifetime to emby and host my own streaming thing for the stuff i always want to have around. its easier to get stuff through torrents even when i've already paid through it via other platforms so until they figure that out gently caress em

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

marijuanamancer posted:

i might be old and over paranoid but i never get anything that executes code like a game or app anymore. you are asking to mine bitcoins for someone in russia or china. media doesnt execute code and the streaming service shuffles makes it hard to ever have a 'library' of standard things so i spent $120 for a lifetime to emby and host my own streaming thing for the stuff i always want to have around. its easier to get stuff through torrents even when i've already paid through it via other platforms so until they figure that out gently caress em
It'd be good for the world if game companies would publish like, sha3 hashes of their complete game that you could verify against. It's a weird thought - I can understand why a content creator wouldn't want to help pirates protect themselves from viruses, but botnets are bad for the world, and game companies are the only ones who can do their part.

It still doesn't work for cracked executables, but one of those is a lot easier to understand than an entire game.

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

It'd be good for the world if game companies would publish like, sha3 hashes of their complete game that you could verify against. It's a weird thought - I can understand why a content creator wouldn't want to help pirates protect themselves from viruses, but botnets are bad for the world, and game companies are the only ones who can do their part.

It still doesn't work for cracked executables, but one of those is a lot easier to understand than an entire game.

yeah it sucks how the money industry took over gaming, originally it was very egalitarian with things like shareware, i'm sure it would have developed further from there if given the chance, but was unfortunately tapped as a vein to mine

Dr. Video Games 0112
Jan 7, 2004

serious business

marijuanamancer posted:

i might be old and over paranoid but i never get anything that executes code like a game or app anymore. you are asking to mine bitcoins for someone in russia or china. media doesnt execute code and the streaming service shuffles makes it hard to ever have a 'library' of standard things so i spent $120 for a lifetime to emby and host my own streaming thing for the stuff i always want to have around. its easier to get stuff through torrents even when i've already paid through it via other platforms so until they figure that out gently caress em

Well, this is why there is this trend of every company creating some kind of account registration and store service like and including Steam, where you know there is integrity on everything listed and consumers can feel safe in the digital age, with brands they can identify.

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G

Bonzo posted:

That must be why I see so many Canadian TV logos on shows that get uploaded.

Which reminds me of how stupid things work up here. CBS All Access doesn't have (and won't have) the new Star Trek shows since they air on Space Channel which is owned by Bell. That makes the app totally useless unless you love CSI and Love Boat.

Games I gave up pirating. I had a Wii which was hacked and that was ok but I mainly game on my PS4. I find the $70 a month access to all the stuff on PSN Plus not bad. If I don't like the game I just delete it.

I watched "The littlest hobo" on YouTube thanks to minimal invasive copyright investigation. If any of you fuckers prevents a future generation of children this opportunity....

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Oscar Wild posted:

I watched "The littlest hobo" on YouTube thanks to minimal invasive copyright investigation. If any of you fuckers prevents a future generation of children this opportunity....

Red Green put all his shows up on YouTube for free. I mention this because all children should know the Man's Prayer.

Stranger Things is on DVD. Let's see if the movie industry has learned anything.

NOPE!

https://old.reddit.com/r/assholedesign/comments/crqx8r/the_stranger_things_s1_blu_ray_has_an_unskippable/

I also LOVE that you pay MORE for the physical media that has commercials, but less than the streaming that is way less in price.

RepeatingMeme
Dec 27, 2012


this place is not a place of honor

no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here

nothing valued is here

what is here was dangerous and repulsive to us

this place is best shunned and left uninhabited


I just torrented photoshop 2014 to participate in photoshop threads

Lord have mercy on my soul

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

You know how some people like vinyl? Well I've been using usenet. It's all like automated and stuff now a days which is nice.

RepeatingMeme
Dec 27, 2012


this place is not a place of honor

no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here

nothing valued is here

what is here was dangerous and repulsive to us

this place is best shunned and left uninhabited


Duck and Cover posted:

You know how some people like vinyl? Well I've been using usenet. It's all like automated and stuff now a days which is nice.

My dad used (uses?) usenet to get stuff, that's how I played heroes of might and magic 2 for years growing up.

I could never get into it, it's always been torrents or warez for me. Probably cause it's less complicated to me and I'm a big idiot

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Duck and Cover posted:

You know how some people like vinyl? Well I've been using usenet. It's all like automated and stuff now a days which is nice.

The automation only works on indexed content. I'll still fire up an old school newsreader from time to time to grab a ton of headers just to see what people are posting.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

I got on usenet very briefly and the massive amount of child pornography there freaked me out pretty bad, I don't think I actually downloaded anything from it

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

purple death ray posted:

I got on usenet very briefly and the massive amount of child pornography there freaked me out pretty bad, I don't think I actually downloaded anything from it

Yeah I remember going to some russian site a few years ago after google sent me that way looking for cracks for rarer niche professional software and suddenly links to child porn. Noped the gently caress out of there and felt I needed to clean my computer afterwards. There's only so far down the warez hole I'll go now. Once I get even a whiff of that sort of sketchiness I bail.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

Paying money to anyone richer than you is immoral

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Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

RepeatingMeme posted:

My dad used (uses?) usenet to get stuff, that's how I played heroes of might and magic 2 for years growing up.

I could never get into it, it's always been torrents or warez for me. Probably cause it's less complicated to me and I'm a big idiot

Oh I used kazaa/emule etc. over usenet originally because it use to be too much of a hassle to use usenet. Now a days there are tools that do the work for you. No dealing with part 1 of 20, missing files (it happens but automation is faster than take downs for new stuff). Like I'm not wading through newsgroup board to find what I'm looking for, there are indexers for that. Really it's a different experience then I remember it being.

Bonzo posted:

The automation only works on indexed content. I'll still fire up an old school newsreader from time to time to grab a ton of headers just to see what people are posting.

Sure but for most movies/tv that people are downloading it's fine. (as long as they're using enough/good indexers).

Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Aug 19, 2019

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