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Sharik posted:It's not stealing, but a violation of copyright law in intellectual property. Stealing would be the taking of property resulting in a fewer number of units at the copyright holder's disposal. It should not be called piracy but like digital photocopying. Words lawyering is the worst, it’s theft.
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when i got a kobo for xmas i found this cool site called libgen or something and it had all these free books so many I thought this is amazing such savings! now you guys are saying I'm a criminal I think not sir
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Burt Sexual posted:Words lawyering is the worst, it’s theft. no, but perhaps it is also unethical and immoral.
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Mnoba posted:nothing has really come out since nevermind by nirvana that really would be worth risking breaking federal law https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fregObNcHC8
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It's how I make my living and I would wholeheartedly agree.
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Burt Sexual posted:Words lawyering is the worst, it’s theft.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Sounds more like actual lawyering, with laws loving lawyers
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Xaintrailles posted:Language evolves but crimes have specific, codified definitions. If "denying the company a sale" was stealing you'd have to lock people up for going on a diet. Look at how stupid this post is look at it.
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When you're young you have time but no money and when you're old you have money but no time. I used to pirate everything but at some point in my tlmid twenties the convenience of being able to have 90% of what I want available and curated for me for the cost $8/mo became more valuable to me than having 100% of what I want at the cost of having to find and curate it myself.
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I like piracy as a means to access content that is difficult to get Is your video only available as a 20 dollar DVD on eBay? Some of these movies I upload to YouTube for archiving purposes and the companies don't DMC it , so that's tacitly giving permission as far as I am concerned gently caress you I'll just take the obscure torrent
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Let's replace the entire criminal code as long as we don't care what words mean. Parking infraction? Sounds like meter theft to me! What is assault other than theft of personal safety? And don't get me started on Epstein, he and his clients stole so much sex from those poor children
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Nice HONEYPOT thread COP OP I hate anything illegal and stay away from it, very far!
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RandomFerret posted:Let's replace the entire criminal code as long as we don't care what words mean. Actually it’s ephebopheblillia
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internet piracy gives regular piracy a bad name
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It's not shitposting, it's time theft. And it WILL be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law up to and including 6 hours forced existence in the real world
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Cubone posted:piracy is less a question of money or morals than of convenience, and its best friend right now is platform exclusivity It's this. As a poor college student game piracy was a way around not having money AND CD checks. You know how amazing it was to have an .iso in a virtual drive back when playing a game legit was having the physical CD/DVD in the drive? That poo poo was bananas circa 2002. Piracy was more convenient. Then, Steam came along and I jumped on that poo poo hard. It was all the benefits of the virtual CD iso thing, but legit! Buy games and just download them hells yeah. My Steam account was made 16 days after Steams launch in 2003. Music piracy was the same deal, far more convenient to download a bunch of mp3s then try to deal with a bunch of CDs. I wasn't into TV or movies much so I didn't even bother. With Steam and music streaming piracy's convenience faded and it was easier to be legit. Timed with me becoming a real boy and a job and money too. Now though, at least with games, balkanization with Epic straight-up paying people to not be on Steam (lmao) and Ubisoft and everyone going 'wow we could make ALL the money' is driving me back to piracy out of convenience. I don't want more accounts, more vectors for my info and credit card info to be stolen, to be tracked and recommended content and all that poo poo, just leave me alone and let me play a game. We're moving backwards and piracy is going to get even stronger in the game space going forward but now with a righteous angle to it which is the funniest thing of all.
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:Look at how stupid this post is look at it. You're talking about infringement of intellectual property rights. Nothing is being stolen. That's why it is referred to as the unauthorized use or reproduction of someone else's work, aka piracy, and not stealing. It's an extremely complex topic. Partially because the laws and public perception are heavily skewed by corporations looking to milk something that should be a temporary protection of original, creative thought for endless profits until the end of time. It's even more messed up when you look at things like academic papers, textbooks, or anything that encompasses the body of human knowledge. I'm fairly convinced libraries would have been banned if they were created in the 1980s-now. Khorne fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Aug 12, 2019 |
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if piracy upsets a corporation, good. if piracy hurts a corporation, even better.
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RandomFerret posted:Let's replace the entire criminal code as long as we don't care what words mean. Congratulations, you've invented libertarianism Though a libertarian probably wouldn't say that last part
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I can't remember the last time I paid for entertainment outside of the actual movie theatre, drive in or a live concert and its pretty fuckin tits, OP. I guess my blood money to the playstation membership counts, but they at least toss you enough half decent free games it doesn't feel like a total ripoff.
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people: we want access to the content in an easy and good format media corps: heh get wrecked, pay 100~ dollars a month for cable and get slammed by more ads than on free to air. Enjoy, fuckos, free market bay-BAY *time passes* p: ayy netflix is pretty good. 11 bucks instead of 100? no ads? like 90% of the content I want? Sign me up, this is great! mc: actually, we was wrong, the free market is bad and not good, we need government intervention asap
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Khorne posted:Imagine handcrafting a copy of your dining room chair and giving it to someone. That's what you are calling stealing. Technically you may have committed the same crime as someone who does it digitally. I understand your point and I agree you're correct. My point though is that it's not going to be any comfort to the person whose work is being pirated. They're going to see it as money taken from their pocket, they're going to feel just as wronged, and they're justified in that. I think a lot of pirates brush it off as not stealing so they don't have to man up and admit that they're doing something that would make the creator of the intellectual property feel violated. You're getting something for nothing, and knowing that you're doing so would cause the other person distress. Call that stealing or don't, we don't have to agree on it. But it's not a nice thing to do either way.
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If you don't buy popcorn, you're taking money from the theater's pocket. Buy it or else.
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What are you supposed to call intellectual property theft? Idgi
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I can't give any less of a poo poo about giant media conglomerates and I won't ever feel bad about doing something they don't want me to do. Sorry guys 
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Has anyone else noticed that it is becoming increasingly difficult to pirate music? I used to be able to easily find music by searching the title of an album along with something like "blogspot," "rar," or "mediafire."
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KakerMix posted:I can't give any less of a poo poo about giant media conglomerates and I won't ever feel bad about doing something they don't want me to do. Ip is a bit broader than your video games or tunes.
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Bodhidharma posted:Has anyone else noticed that it is becoming increasingly difficult to pirate music? I used to be able to easily find music by searching the title of an album along with something like "blogspot," "rar," or "mediafire." Piracy has often been called a distribution problem As services like Spotify and Netflix etc continue there are just less easily seeded files floating about
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Burt Sexual posted:What are you supposed to call intellectual property theft? Idgi Well in this high profile ZeniMax v. Oculus case the jury trial awarded the plaintiff ~25% of the compensatory damages and found that the defendants "did not misappropriate or steal trade secrets". So if there's stuff like non-disclosure agreements, and other biz contracts involved - it becomes more complex as to the nature of the crime(s).
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Burt Sexual posted:Ip is a bit broader than your video games or tunes. Sure but the power structure is way out of the hands of consumers and, uh, "IP" producers and held by giant media companies ala Disney that it makes it hard to actually say "support the artists, go see Avengers in the theater" when the mechanism that's made that movie possible is disgusting as all hell and crushed so many creative people under it. Like anything it's a spectrum, and the companies that make stuff like that old 'you wouldn't steal a car' short commercial thing that every pirated movie cut out of are the ones that are abusing the system far worse than any consumer is. I honestly have a hard time trying to figure out why me not buying a music album and never listening to it vs. pirating it and listening to it is worse. The end result for the artist is the same, they don't have my money. It's just one one instance I don't listen to it, and the other I do. I am not trying to use this as justification for pirating it, I honestly would like to hear a reason why there is a difference in the end result.
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Because in one case you consumed it and listened to it and in the other case you didn't and you didn't I don't know. I'll agree that goons are on a spectrum though
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Yeah, I guess the op was really about media. But how are artists supposed to make money from their art? Idk maybe taytay goes indie? Doesn’t work for small timers?
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Bodhidharma posted:Has anyone else noticed that it is becoming increasingly difficult to pirate music? I used to be able to easily find music by searching the title of an album along with something like "blogspot," "rar," or "mediafire." I'm convinced pretty much every piece of music ever made is on youtube in one way or another.
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Gotta keep, One jump ahead of the bread line one swing ahead of the sword I steal only what I can't afford and that's everything One jump ahead of the lawmen That's all, and that's no joke These guys don't appreciate I'm broke
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In the future people gonna be pirating personality updates for their sex robots and the first thing they hear when they reboot their sex dolls gonna be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XwIRiJWixw e: another good one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq7uQg0cczU e2: oh god I've fallen down a hole... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KmVaaRvKI4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaPPBRyV5aU Wifi Toilet fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Aug 12, 2019 |
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Wifi Toilet posted:In the future people gonna be pirating personality updates for their sex robots and the first thing they hear when they reboot their sex dolls gonna be Tesla.CyberDiner.Companion.9.Shinigami.Geisha.DLC-JP-PATCHED-UNLOCKED-RAZOR2111 MarsMotherFer69 at 2139-05-12 20:04 CET: easy fix for anyone experiencing the "kills house pet" error reconnect your dinner companion via lightning cable go to bin/crack/RAZOR2111 then find "roomba-mil-routine-b4.lol" and delete it works 100%
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Young man, put the debit card down I said young man, there's a new way I've found I said young man, shows and keygens abound There's no need to pay for these things Young man, there's a site you can go I said young man, when you're short on your dough You can go there, and I'm sure you will find Ways to play without spending a dime It's fun to violate DMCA It's fun to violate DMCA They have everything free for you to enjoy You can download all the new shows It's fun to violate DMCA It's fun to violate DMCA You can get yourself porn, all the games you can steal You can do whatever you feel Young man, are you listening to me? I said young man, want that new DLC? I said young man, you can steal Adobe But you got to know this one thing No man keeps it all for himself I said young man, seeding helps torrent health And just upload, behind your VPN Because they well help keep you safe It's fun to violate DMCA It's fun to violate DMCA They have everything free for you to enjoy You can download all the new shows It's fun to violate DMCA It's fun to violate DMCA You can get yourself porn, all the games you can steal You can do whatever you feel Young man, I was once in your shoes I said I was, paying out my caboose But I could not, keep up with price I missed all the latest content That's when someone private messaged me And said young man, there's a way you can cheat There's a tracker, here have an invite link They can get you all that for free It's fun to violate DMCA It's fun to violate DMCA They have everything free for you to enjoy You can download all the new shows DMCA It's fun to violate DMCA Young man, put the debit card down I said young man, there's a new way I've found DMCA It's fun to violate DMCA No man keeps it all for himself I said young man, seeding helps torrent health Young man, are you listening to me? I said young man, want that new DLC? DMCA It's fun to violate DMCA No man keeps it all for himself I said young man, seeding helps torrent health DMCA Just go violate DMCA Young man, I was once in your shoes I said I was, paying out my caboose DMCA It's fun to violate DMCA Resting Lich Face fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Aug 12, 2019 |
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sweet thursday posted:Gotta keep, Now imagine, if you will, if Aladdin had the ability (perhaps granted by a Genie?) at no cost, to perfectly duplicate the bread rather than actually removing it from the merchant's stand. And he could have duplicated it again to give some to feed those poor orphans. I feel the movie could have been very different that way - a movie about the abundance of bread and the plight of artisan breadmakers, who feel they might go out of the business of trying to create new, fresh bread flavours because, before they know it, their new breads are everywhere without them receiving anything short of charity from the people who appreciate their hard work. But as the artisan breadmakers learn to drop their grossly inflated profit margins, cut out the middlemen, and provide better bread delivery models, the uptake of their bread increases again. Or something like that. I think I prefer the original movie to be quite honest. Also: Resting Lich Face posted:DMCA song Amazing. Soul Reaver fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Aug 12, 2019 |
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