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Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

I hope Austin is pre-recorded because live TV and Skype don't get along great

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mactheknife
Jul 20, 2004

THE JOLLY CANDY-LIKE BUTTON

Gumball Gumption posted:

I hope Austin is pre-recorded because live TV and Skype don't get along great

i hope he isn't, for the exact same reason actually

The Croc
Dec 19, 2004

A-well-a everybody's heard about the bird!

OH YEAH!



Gumball Gumption posted:

I hope Austin is pre-recorded because live TV and Skype don't get along great

It'll be live and it will go aswell as the McMahon millions did.

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004


lol

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

Í̝̰ ͓̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉m̺̩͝ ͇̬A̡̮̞̠͚͉̱̫ K̶e͓ǵ.̻̱̪͖̹̟̕

Gumball Gumption posted:

I hope Austin is pre-recorded because live TV and Skype don't get along great

Looking forward to hearing "I can hear you, can you hear me?" from a terrible picture that looks even worse projected on the Titantron

Two Beans
Nov 27, 2003

dabbin' on em
Pillbug

The Croc posted:

It'll be live and it will go aswell as the McMahon millions did.

Michael Cole: We have Stone Cold Steve Austin live via Tout Skype! Stone Cold, are you there?

SCSA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

Í̝̰ ͓̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉m̺̩͝ ͇̬A̡̮̞̠͚͉̱̫ K̶e͓ǵ.̻̱̪͖̹̟̕
I haven't watched WWE for a few weeks, what the hell is The Fiend

Edit: Oh it's Bray being repackaged as a creepy guy or something

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Aug 12, 2019

Molestationary Store
May 21, 2007

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:

I haven't watched WWE for a few weeks, what the hell is The Fiend

Bray Wyatt reboot.

Tomahawk
Aug 13, 2003

HE KNOWS
Ill bet Jim Corbetts had a lot to say about a wrestler using breaking someones neck as a move. No??

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

beef haire

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:

Edit: Oh it's Bray being repackaged as a creepy guy or something
Bray Wyatt feuded with a super happy all smiles dude who transforms into a monster in his most important matches to squash mid-carders.

WWE creative transformed Bray Wyatt into a super happy all smiles dude who transforms into a monster to squash mid-carders. Except instead of cool make-up he has goofy pants and a mask they bought at the mall.

It's good poo poo.

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!
That Bray is the best thing on the roster is less an endorsement of his new gimmick and more a condemnation of the rest of the roster.

Midnightghoul
Oct 1, 2003

COME ON DON'T BE SCURRED
When Bray face turns they'll call him The Friend

Dacap
Jul 8, 2008

I've been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower.

You have more fun as a follower. But you make more money as a leader.



Midnightghoul posted:

When Bray face turns they'll call him The Friend

Honestly they should start calling red sweater Funhouse Bray this.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

reignofevil posted:

Now that I've sobered up a bit I want to draw focus to the storytelling aspects of the ziggler-goldberg fight last night.

Specifically; it didn't have any whatsoever. It was an entirely one sided affair where neither goldberg bettered himself nor did ziggler learn any form of lesson. From a character arc perspective Ziggler failed to achieve any kind of growth from this event and it seems to have entirely left him unchanged when you take a look at the characters underlying philosophy. Furthermore when analyzed from the perspective of 'what the gently caress is dolph thinking here' we really have no way of even guessing what precisely dolph was hoping to happen by repeatedly antagonizing goldberg. Maybe he was hoping there was an off chance that Goldberg would be too tired or find it too pitiful or perhaps even that he would see Ziggler as so beneath his time that he would fail to respond to the jeering for a second and third beating? Then the audience might be fooled into thinking Goldberg was somehow afraid to come back out and fight this guy he had already come out and fought mere minutes beforehand? I don't really know I mean heels can be delusional about what the audience is going to think and when they are going to think it but surely that stretches credibility.

From an audience perspective there was never any doubt that goldberg could beat up ziggler the first time and then the ensuing two beatings were also completely without note because once a man is beaten and unable to stand it would be a loving miracle if someone the size of goldberg, even in his later years, couldn't kick the poo poo out of a defenseless opponent. From the perspective of the old storytelling standby the rule of threes the expectation would be that (despite all logic to the contrary) that Dolph would spring some kind of trap and successfully get the better of goldberg with the understanding that he couldn't do it during the match because of disqualification rules and obviously Ziggler had to put his physical well being on the line even after being beaten to the point of not being able to rise to his feet so that he could bait goldberg because he left too early... or something. But obviously that didn't happen.

As an aside if we weren't talking about WWE I might suggest such a storyline where Ziggler in that moment of his third asswhuppin' finds a new determination he never had before and goes from a chickenshit heel to a dirtiest player in the game type heel but the problem is that WWE puts on that exact storyline with no payoff approximately every four months; last time I can recall I think Fandango got an approximately one match push before being shunted into the fashion police but hell if I can remember. Maybe Del Rio got that story spot too? I might be blurring some of this together.

In conclusion Dolph isn't a bad wrestler because he is terrible and unfunny (he is) and he isn't a bad wrestler because he is a third rate shawn micheals ripoff (he is) really he is a bad wrestler because his underlying motivations are completely incomprehensible to the audience and he hasn't developed a new thought to add to his repertoire in basically a loving decade. He's not just boring he gives off the presentation that you would be significantly better off if you ignored him when he was talking because you already know how he feels and how he feels already doesn't make any god damned sense to anyone; not even to himself when you give him the most maximum possible benefit of the doubt.

Having written all of these words I would now be most pleased if Dolph lost a buried alive match and then quit wrestling forever so I don't have to write them again in ten years.

The storytelling perspective is that Goldberg is a draw for audience. The audience perspective is that its not really about whether the outcome is in doubt, its being able to see Goldberg.

Le Saboteur
Dec 5, 2007

I hear you wish to ball, adventurer..

Dacap posted:

Honestly they should start calling red sweater Funhouse Bray this.

The Friend and The Fiend is probably too clever for WWE.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

My big analysis of Goldberg is that they should have someone ambush him while hes in the escort part of his nostalgia entrance

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Midnightghoul posted:

When Bray face turns they'll call him The Friend
If the writing was better it would be cool to play off the duality of the character, maybe strain his relationship with a face stable when he outheels the heels after going Fiend, but "stables" and "Writing better" are not WWE things. Or friendship, that's a problem too.

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

BGrifter posted:

Win streak as THE FIEND. Losing streak as Firefly Funhouse Bray.

Look into your hearts, you all know this to be true.

So you know what will happen is that the two personalities will argue over who should be in control of the body, leaving Bray to argue and fight with himself. Ultimately, it will end with a Superman 3 style fight where Bray fights The Fiend for ultimate control (and the Fiend will emerge as a completely new being, because they just have to put a mask on a dude that looks like Bray and cover up the tats). They'll film this and show at a PPV, maybe WrestleMania.

Loser gets thrown in a trash compactor.

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

lol at a Steve Austin skype interview

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:

Looking forward to hearing "I can hear you, can you hear me?" from a terrible picture that looks even worse projected on the Titantron

Surely it's just going to be SCSA barking What? at whoever is on the other end fir the whole interview

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Whilst The Fiend stuff is cool and good and all, and they used it a lot better at Summerslam than I expected them to, I have all expectations they will stuff it up, and do so badly. Because 1)It's Bray and they seem to love to ruin his career/pushes periodically, and 2)WWE doesn't know how to deal with anything that is the slightest bit different to "oiled up tall muscleman wins all the time"

Also, will we get to see happy smiley red sweater Funhouse Bray wrestle? I think that could be a cool thing. Have happy Bray wrestle, and have him constantly fighting with himself to try and stop The Fiend from coming out. If he fails, he could have the mask under the ring, and do a Killer Bees thing where the lights go out, he nips under the ring to put on the mask, comes out and then does his spoopy scary violent move.

Or if they wanted to be really different, they could do the opposite as a way of turning Bray face. Have the Fiend feud with someone, and get his arse kicked. So at the end, when the fiend is slowly sadly leaving the ring, he finally discards the halloween mask and ringmaster jacket etc. to find himself happy kiddie entertainer Bray underneath.

Slightly related: Where is Bray's brother Bo these days? I always thought WWE missed a trick by not having them team up. Coz Bo can be super creepy when he tries, and I always thought he was charismatic and entertaining.

Roman Reigns
Aug 23, 2007

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:

Looking forward to hearing "I can hear you, can you hear me?" from a terrible picture that looks even worse projected on the Titantron

Holy poo poo :laffo:

I can imagine this and his voice and its killing me

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!
Id be fine with Bo getting the Stardust treatment.

Of course I have zero faith in the WWE to do it right.

Psychepath
Apr 30, 2003
I'm just realizing that a bunch of the aesthetic, tone, and punchline of Bray's new character is basically Lumpy Touch's Movie Sonic series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mateioRh8

The Cameo
Jan 20, 2005


bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:

Looking forward to hearing "I can hear you, can you hear me?" from a terrible picture that looks even worse projected on the Titantron

Be excited for the awkward pauses because of Skype lag

Midnightghoul
Oct 1, 2003

COME ON DON'T BE SCURRED
Let me know when they call Road Dogg on Ventrilo

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!

The Cameo posted:

Be excited for the awkward pauses because of Skype lag

WHAT? *buffering* WHAT? *buffering* WHAT? *buffering*

Sad Im gonna miss it. Vaped a bunch of legal weed and went down to the beach instead. :canada:

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
goldberg smells


eat it, nerds

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




I bet he smells like baby powder.

Chinston Wurchill
Jun 27, 2010

It's not that kind of test.

Midnightghoul posted:

When Bray face turns they'll call him The Friend

As long as they pronounce it as if it rhymes with Fiend.

reignofevil
Nov 7, 2008

Namtab posted:

The storytelling perspective is that Goldberg is a draw for audience. The audience perspective is that its not really about whether the outcome is in doubt, its being able to see Goldberg.

Well I think I'd like it more if they had tried harder!

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Oh cool King of the Ring is back.

So who's winning and getting buried with a lovely king gimmick this time?

UnlimitedSpessmans
Jul 31, 2015

Vandar posted:

Oh cool King of the Ring is back.

So who's winning and getting buried with a lovely king gimmick this time?

ricochet

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




Cesaro since he has a funny accent and hes a foreigner from the kind of places they still have Kings.

Dacap
Jul 8, 2008

I've been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower.

You have more fun as a follower. But you make more money as a leader.




Yeah this is probably it. He's even had a King gimmick before

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Prince Puma is too cool for WWE. And no Konnan or Mil Muertes/Katrina.

Two Beans
Nov 27, 2003

dabbin' on em
Pillbug
King Truth the 24/7th

ShakeZula
Jun 17, 2003

Nobody move and nobody gets hurt.

Drew has to be the odds-on favorite for KotR, right? He's a heel in need of a credibility boost, plus he's from the place where kings are!

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projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


ShakeZula posted:

Drew has to be the odds-on favorite for KotR, right? He's a heel in need of a credibility boost, plus he's from the place where kings are!

baron corbin

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