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Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Big Beef City posted:

Like seriously there is something mentally wrong with you to watch the Godfather and come away with it being "What motivates Al Pacino". gently caress me running is that a terrible thing. How do you wake UP every day?

He's just overthinking it.

OP Pacino has been the good boy whose kept his nose outta the business, then when stuff is getting tight and tense he gets emotionally involved, and before long has been seduced into the thing and turns out to actually be the most natural for that life even more than his brothers. So he goes from good boy to competent natural bad boy.
And it's a cool character arc to watch. And yes Kay is an airheaded naive WASP of some sort.

Grape fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Aug 15, 2019

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Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.

ChesterJT posted:

You need to get out more. He has three of the most iconic characters in movie history.
He was good until a point. He started phoning it in later in his career.

Yeah, the guy above me explained it well.

ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus

Leon Einstein posted:

He was good until a point. He started phoning it in later in his career.

Oh yeah can't argue with that but young Brando can't be touched.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie
Brando was totally slumming it in Superman but still loving killed it. That's how good he is.

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

They really don't have it backwards, there are multiple chapters after Sonny dies about his wife/widow dealing with her cavernous vagina.

Ah, I see. I never finished the book. Thanks for clarifying.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Jose Oquendo posted:

Brando was totally slumming it in Superman but still loving killed it. That's how good he is.

He's got that Harrison Ford energy of somehow still being magnetic even when giving zero fucks.

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

did they have the gabagool during this era?

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Wamdoodle posted:

did they have the gabagool during this era?

Yes, yes they did.

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
This is my favorite scene. In 5 minutes you witness a complete transformation of Michael Corleone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj0lCWqSo1Q

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

I'm really frustrated that the actor who played Clemenza went all prima donna after the success of the first film and demanded a bunch of poo poo when they went to make Part II, so they wrote out his character.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Professor Shark posted:

I'm really frustrated that the actor who played Clemenza went all prima donna after the success of the first film and demanded a bunch of poo poo when they went to make Part II, so they wrote out his character.

Kinda, they kept his character in every way but literally. The Frank Pentangeli character is what Clamenza would have been doing, but because they couldn't get the actor without the drama issue, they wrote Clamenza as dying, and just had the new character/actor do all the stuff Clamenza was supposed to do.

Which yeah is a shame, because all of that part would be way more emotionally involving if it had been Clamenza.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

b-minus1 posted:

This is my favorite scene. In 5 minutes you witness a complete transformation of Michael Corleone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj0lCWqSo1Q

That's the stuff. It's so good. Sonny wants to fuckin kill everyone. Tom wants to do all he can to keep the peace as it impacts their business. While they argue Michael formulates a plan that lets them have their cake and eat it too.

Those movies are long but so well edited, paced, and plotted, there's nothing you can remove because it's all important.

Master J Plus
Apr 20, 2010

by Hand Knit
Dey call my mama Burger King cuz she makes one great I-talian person

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

Chrs Gry posted:

I think it’s time we all stopped pretending that Marlon Brando was a good actor

:wrong:

chrmnbill
Feb 17, 2011

Professor Shark posted:

I'm really frustrated that the actor who played Clemenza went all prima donna after the success of the first film and demanded a bunch of poo poo when they went to make Part II, so they wrote out his character.

He's not written out, just transformed into Bruno Kirby.

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

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Professor Shark posted:

I'm really frustrated that the actor who played Clemenza went all prima donna after the success of the first film and demanded a bunch of poo poo when they went to make Part II, so they wrote out his character.

Hey now, a man has gotta eat

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Grape posted:

Kinda, they kept his character in every way but literally. The Frank Pentangeli character is what Clamenza would have been doing, but because they couldn't get the actor without the drama issue, they wrote Clamenza as dying, and just had the new character/actor do all the stuff Clamenza was supposed to do.

Which yeah is a shame, because all of that part would be way more emotionally involving if it had been Clamenza.

quote:

Castellano did not reprise his role as Clemenza in The Godfather Part II (1974). He was reportedly excluded because Castellano and his agent insisted on having control over the character's dialogue. Director Francis Ford Coppola said that this was untenable, and wrote Castellano out of the movie.[3] This account was disputed by Castellano's widow in a 1991 letter to People magazine.[6] Castellano said he did not have a part in the sequel because he did not believe that the character of Clemenza would become a traitor. He had other disagreements with Coppola, including confusion over how much weight he was expected to lose for the role.

I actually agree with him. I cannot imagine Clemenza betraying Michael the way that Frank Pentangeli did.

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

Jose Oquendo posted:

Brando was totally slumming it in Superman but still loving killed it. That's how good he is.

I will never get over finding out he read his lines off of the baby's diaper.

AstroWhale posted:

A shame that the Fredo fucks a lot in Vegas sideplot from the book is not in the movie.

They briefly mention it in the movie, as I recall, when Michael moves in on casino territory.

John Cazale's delivery of "I'm gonna be in the casino business!" will never not be great. The parallels between him and Buster Bluth are fantastic.

Grape posted:

He's just overthinking it.

OP Pacino has been the good boy whose kept his nose outta the business, then when stuff is getting tight and tense he gets emotionally involved, and before long has been seduced into the thing and turns out to actually be the most natural for that life even more than his brothers. So he goes from good boy to competent natural bad boy.
And it's a cool character arc to watch. And yes Kay is an airheaded naive WASP of some sort.

I mean, it was pretty natural for Michael to turn like that, given he was a soldier during wartime. Except instead of doing things because his country asked, he did them because his family asked. Unfortunately, peace is harder to achieve in the mob world without being the one on top, so he had to keep going.

Kay's a textbook mangia-cake.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCFVfwJZJT8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkH_86HJCFY

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Supreme Allah posted:

op do you remember your first blowjob?

how long did it take the guy to cum?

HEY TONE you hear that, I ask the op if he remembers his first blow job, I ask him how long it take the guy to cum?!


Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

Youse fadda came pretty quick cus he was joikin' it while he was suckin'. He came before me in fact!

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
ohhhhhhhhhhhhh I'm Postin' ovah here!

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

Michael, why'dya shoot up da whole gashdahned restahrant!?

I told ya ta shoot da cawp and the mahbstah but ya killt everyone! Ya kilt a lady! Ya kilt an old man! Ya even went inta da back n shot da chef n shot da freakin dishwarsher!

Is it cawza dem interwebs sites you been visitin boy? Michael? Is you an incel? Is you an incel?

*In tears*

My boy! My boy is a freakin incel! Mama freakin mia!

Macnult
Jul 7, 2013

positioned under a lamp so my eyes are shadowed out, gesticulating as i mutter a list of pizza toppings and earthy seasonings

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

Damo posted:

cool thanks for some of the most useless movie thoughts ive ever read, friend. not funny, not insightful, nothing. pretty amazing when you think about how useless you made your thoughts. anyway, glad you watched it catch ya later

You're welcome! :)

Dr. Gojo Shioji
Apr 22, 2004

Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

Is it cawza dem interwebs sites you been visitin boy? Michael? Is you an incel? Is you an incel?

*In tears*

My boy! My boy is a freakin incel! Mama freakin mia!

Mafiosos goin' deyz own ways

Macnult
Jul 7, 2013

hello muddah, hello faddah as sung by don corleone

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

Big Beef City posted:

Like seriously there is something mentally wrong with you to watch the Godfather and come away with it being "What motivates Al Pacino". gently caress me running is that a terrible thing. How do you wake UP every day?

Pacino's performance is pretty stoic, there were a few possible interpretations, I like to keep an open mind, and I'm even getting different takes from this very thread, OK? So how 'bout you gimme a

GOD

DAMNED

BREAK

Capeesh, paison? Well do you understand?

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

b-minus1 posted:

I actually agree with him. I cannot imagine Clemenza betraying Michael the way that Frank Pentangeli did.

Given the circumstances in 2 of the whole "family oriented clan" turned into "icy soulless business" that fucks Pentangeli over, I definitely can see that.

Vakal
May 11, 2008

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

I think in the mob movie parody 'Mafia', with Lloyd Bridges, he puts almost an entire grapefruit in there.

My favourite joke from that was when Jay Mohr confronted his ex with their son, who she didn't know existed. Also, he named the kid Diane, after his mom.

I also liked when he shoots the fat guy in the face in the restaurant and the guy quickly finishes eating before he dies.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

mojo1701a posted:

Kay's a textbook mangia-cake.

Naw she's more specifically upper class or upper middle class New England WASP (the waspiest of all wasps short of actual English people), like they mention her being from New Hampshire I think.
Very stiff polite society stuff.

Zeluth
May 12, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NazGqgc8u20

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...
Oh hey I finished watching The Godfather Part II earlier today just FYI

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

Vakal posted:

I also liked when he shoots the fat guy in the face in the restaurant and the guy quickly finishes eating before he dies.

hell I'd do that too, tbh

"Can't...let the ....gabagool..... go ta waste..."


*dies with a clean dish in front*

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
everytime i watch these i always need to make spaghetti

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




Mama-Mia!
Papa-Pia!
Stick your head
In diarrhea!

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...
Hooooly cow is Godfather II like the epitome of 70s excess where cokehead studio execs went ahead and let auteur directors just go wild with their prestige pics hoping to nab some of that sweet, sweet prestige and credibility dollars. Like suddenly The Godfather is now a 220 minute (it has an intermission(!!)) history-spanning globe-trotting epic and it's like every other scene takes place during an extravagant celebration with hundreds of extras because they gave Francis Ford Coppola a truckload of money to burn. It's like if they edited in all the key scenes from Episodes I, II, III (with Robert Deniro playing Anakin Skywalker) throughout The Empire Strikes Back, that's how ridiculously huge Godfather Part Two is.

Now before you all get on my case about sacrilege or whatever I do think this is a masterfully crafted movie but drat you can see how this flick inspired self-indulgent messes like Heaven's Gate and Star Trek: The Motion Picture and eventually killed the whole 70s era of gritty dramas dead.

Kazak
Jan 10, 2012

Ey fuggedaboutit Jake, dats CosaNostratown for ya

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SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

Skeleton Ape posted:

Ey Tone. The bawls on this guy, ah?

Ey, dat's what he said too!

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