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Marshmallow Blue
Apr 25, 2010
Draft is set up for maximum party funtime.

Every year some folks GET CUTE and don't keep 15 in hopes that they get extra early picks but your lies and deception, once again, do not pay off. Just kidding of course.

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Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!
Promise I'll shut up about it till like week 8 but uhhh yeah I'd really like to kickstart this rebuild yall.

On the Block
WR: AJ Green, Alshon Jeffrey, Allen Robinson
RB: Duke Johnson, Derrick Henry

CompeAnansi
Feb 1, 2011

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Ches Neckbeard posted:

Promise I'll shut up about it till like week 8 but uhhh yeah I'd really like to kickstart this rebuild yall.

On the Block
WR: AJ Green, Alshon Jeffrey, Allen Robinson
RB: Duke Johnson, Derrick Henry

I am still interested in Henry, but I think the original proposal of a 1st + 2nd round pick was too much.

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!
What holds me up there is those are end of round picks. If you've got a counter proposal I'm open to it

Gobias Ind.
Apr 5, 2007

If your girlfriend says hey to me that's our girlfriend now idc
:siren: Draft is in an hour

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

Gobias Ind. posted:

:siren: Draft is in an hour

last chance to contribute this years draft picks to my rebuild fund!

KettleWL
Dec 28, 2010

Ches Neckbeard posted:

last chance to contribute this years draft picks to my rebuild fund!

What would it take for aj green?

he asks as a bengals fan already disappointed every sunday.

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!
I'll do AJ for your 7 OR your first next year.

KettleWL
Dec 28, 2010

Ches Neckbeard posted:

I'll do AJ for your 7 OR your first next year.

I'd do next year's

but i may have to trade you a pick this year to balance on my roster or something? If so, just my last pick of the year.

Please advise marshmellow

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!
Said I'd link Sleeper in the draft chat so here it is https://sleeper.app/

KettleWL posted:

I'd do next year's

but i may have to trade you a pick this year to balance on my roster or something? If so, just my last pick of the year.

Please advise marshmellow

accepted

Marshmallow Blue
Apr 25, 2010
poo poo

Let's see how bad autodraft did.

Marshmallow Blue
Apr 25, 2010

KettleWL posted:

I'd do next year's

but i may have to trade you a pick this year to balance on my roster or something? If so, just my last pick of the year.

Please advise marshmellow

Yes so to be clear, it would be

Kettles 1 in 2020
for
Ches Beard's AJ Green and 2020 7th round?

Marshmallow Blue
Apr 25, 2010
OMG all my running backs!

Felter Chesthard
Sep 11, 2001
I missed the draft too. Hope auto draft got me some receivers.

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

Felter Chesthard posted:

I missed the draft too. Hope auto draft got me some receivers.

You're going to be very displeased and should take a look at my available players.

Marshmallow Blue posted:

Yes so to be clear, it would be

Kettles 1 in 2020
for
Ches Beard's AJ Green and 2020 7th round?

this is fine

KettleWL
Dec 28, 2010

Marshmallow Blue posted:

Kettles 1 in 2020
for
Ches Beard's AJ Green and 2020 7th round?

Down for this.


That 7th rounder will turn into a superstar.

or if the draft is like this year's it'll be a solid 3rd round pick that is still available after all the kickers nad d/sts got autodrafted

Ben Nevis
Jan 20, 2011
I overestimated people's value on Singletary and Darwin. Was really thinking I was going WR there.

mega dy
Dec 6, 2003

I now have two defenses and two kickers, autodraft rules

Edit: three kickers...

mega dy fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Sep 2, 2019

CompeAnansi
Feb 1, 2011

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Someone offer me (Sunnyvale Shithawks) a fair trade for a decent QB under 30.

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!
Marshmallow how do we process the AJ Green for a pick trade?

CompeAnansi posted:

Someone offer me (Sunnyvale Shithawks) a fair trade for a decent QB under 30.

Jameis or Kissin TD's tickle your fancy?

You had to know my greasy car salesman rear end would have something.

KettleWL
Dec 28, 2010

CompeAnansi posted:

Someone offer me (Sunnyvale Shithawks) a fair trade for a decent QB under 30.
I'll take a look at your roster if you're interested in Lamar Jackson, or Dwayne Haskins.

I also have one Philip Rivers, who is not under 30 oh, but I didn't do very well at reading comprehension as a kid so I don't know what's up

Marshmallow Blue
Apr 25, 2010

Ches Neckbeard posted:

Marshmallow how do we process the AJ Green for a pick trade?


Jameis or Kissin TD's tickle your fancy?

You had to know my greasy car salesman rear end would have something.

Pick trades should be available as options in the default trade interface, i'll dig around

CompeAnansi
Feb 1, 2011

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I'm willing to trade Antonio Brown at a discount to his trade value on the calculators for a decent RB or QB if anyone is in win-now mode.

CompeAnansi
Feb 1, 2011

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CompeAnansi posted:

Someone offer me (Sunnyvale Shithawks) a fair trade for a decent QB under 30.

Well, I ended up trading for a 35-year-old Aaron Rodgers which isn't exactly what I was looking for, but definitely works for now.

Marshmallow Blue
Apr 25, 2010
:ducksiren: League note: I checked the scoring settings ot ensure they are still corect after NFL made the switch to PPR being standard. They said custom rules wouldn't be changed, but you can never really trust NFL.com can you? Well everything was kosher, no changes needed, and we're good to roll.

Good Luck tonight everyone. I mean. Luck won't be good because he's retired, so we're all hosed.

KettleWL
Dec 28, 2010
Someone trade me a decent wr for a non Watson qb yall

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!
So who wants this Nkeal Harry I traded for

CompeAnansi
Feb 1, 2011

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What is the league's view on intentionally tanking? Do we require people start something close to their best possible lineups? Or do we allow people to start random garbage in hopes of getting good picks?

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!
Edit: nm I'm dumb wrong thread

Marshmallow Blue
Apr 25, 2010
There's no tank rule. But as commissioner,

I'm setting the following precedent.

Rule 1. You have to start a lineup, no empty slots.
Rule 2. You can't tank 2 years in a row.

Objections speak now for forever hold your peace

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!
Ah man I'm mid year 2 tank now.

If it's the will though I'll follow

Marshmallow Blue
Apr 25, 2010
Going forward, so last year's tank will be grandfathered in.

CompeAnansi
Feb 1, 2011

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I'm anti any intentional tanking ever. The non-snake draft policy is supposed to help those with teams that, even at their best, are still the worst. But the rankings won't reflect where teams are 'even at their best' if we allow tanking. If we allow tanking, then we should have a snake draft.

True tanking, in a dynasty context (which should be allowed) involves trading off your best players for picks so when you do start your best players, you still won't score many points. That's what teams do in real life when they want to tank. They don't bench their best running back and say "sorry, you get the year off because we want the #1 pick". They trade him or hope they are bad enough they get the #1 pick even with him playing.

CompeAnansi
Feb 1, 2011

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After reading up on how other leagues handle tanking, it seems that the majority of them use 'potential points' to determine draft order. That is, everyone each week is assigned the max points from their whole roster, and then the teams with the lowest total get the first pick and so on. I doubt nfl.com has an option built-in for this, but other league sites do (like MFL). But notice that the idea behind potential points is the same as what I argued above. You should be using the player's whole roster to determine pick order, not the bad players they chose to start.

As someone else put it: "Using potential points means teams can't just bench their best players for a better draft position - they have to tank their whole team. And that should be allowed so long as they don't make stupid trades like Elliot for a 4th or something. Plenty of teams flip good players for future picks to tank and that's fine."

Gobias Ind.
Apr 5, 2007

If your girlfriend says hey to me that's our girlfriend now idc
I agree with CompeAnansi. Whether or not we actually count potential points I think every team needs to start their best lineup every week. That doesn't mean that you can't trade off a bunch of dudes for future assets though. Just don't bench better players in the name of losing.

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!
Saying just trade off your best players is one thing actually pulling it off is uhhhhhhhh

I was trying to sell nearly an entire team starting before last year's draft and didn't get anything done till this year. It's just not that easy.

Edit: I'm pro a one year tank and will count mine from last year. Just wanted to add some perspective there

Ches Neckbeard fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Sep 14, 2019

KettleWL
Dec 28, 2010
If anyone wants to out-tank Che, or just thinking about moving around some pieces - trade me one of your decent/back up RBs, because Melvin Gordon is going to gently caress me all year like Bell did last year

thanks

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!
Give him nothing! Make that 1 go all the way up! :yeshaha:

CompeAnansi
Feb 1, 2011

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Welp. Can't beat 43 points from Mike Evans.

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Gobias Ind.
Apr 5, 2007

If your girlfriend says hey to me that's our girlfriend now idc

CompeAnansi posted:

Welp. Can't beat 43 points from Mike Evans.

:woop: Your team is so stacked; didn't think I stood much of a chance.

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