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ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

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ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Doctor Jeep posted:

"some boys"
"42 of them"
what the hell, did groups of 50-60 boys just roam the streets back in the day

40 to 50 feral boys

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Chamale posted:

I was reading about the trial and execution of Socrates and I got the impression that he deserved it, which is very different from what I was taught in school. He collaborated with a dictatorship that murdered a lot of Athenians, and in his defence he claimed that he didn't resist them but he didn't actively help them. There was an amnesty for anyone who committed crimes during the tyranny, so he was executed on a pretext of corrupting the youth, but really it was vengeance against the Spartan tyranny. Are there other historians who have this view on him, or am I way off base?

They knew about rocks that emit light when crushed because they have phosphorus in them. A chemist would have known about it, but probably not the average person. Thomas Browne wrote about it in Pseudodoxia Epidemica, which is a fun 17th-century book about applying the scientific method to a lot of contemporary beliefs.

there is as much historical evidence for the existence of socrates as for the existence of jesus

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

what about the etruscans though

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004





https://www.portraitofaplaything.com/work/8-hedgehog-on-wheels

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Slavvy posted:

Why would you wash your body that's just stripping away the natural protective coating of sweat and grime that makes you waterproof, like an otter or sloth

this is why strigillation is the only correct way, and the greeks are the most superior culture

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Antonymous posted:

god i wish i looked like willem in the 80s



ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

WoodrowSkillson posted:

yeah, thats the thing, by doing this you are skipping an actual African historical figure in favor of some weird ahistorical retelling.

for the record, for 90% of poo poo it absolutely does not matter what the ethnicity of an actor playing a role is, but when the thing is touting itself as telling history, yeah it kinda does. it covers for the Ptolemies and makes them look like native rulers, and also denies someone like Queen Amanirenas a time to shine. She actually fought the Romans at the same time as Cleopatra and won.

ah yes the accountant's take on movies, totally legit criticism

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Stinky Wizzleteats posted:

was Hammurabi the first one to post? The ur poster? Is this possible that all ill strives out from the act of making posts?

do you consider posting restricted to alphabetic written language? or do images and notational signs count? what about hieroglyphs?

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Weka posted:

Imo posting doesn't require written language, pictures can be posts, showing off your sweet hunting skills or just pictures of cute saber tooth tigers.

if so, Neanderthals may have been the first posters!!!

A 2018 study claimed an age of 64,000 years for the oldest examples of non-figurative cave art in the Iberian Peninsula. Represented by three red non-figurative symbols found in the caves of Maltravieso, Ardales and La Pasiega, Spain, these predate the appearance of modern humans in Europe by at least 20,000 years and thus must have been made by Neanderthals rather than modern humans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_painting?wprov=sfla1

https://phys.org/news/2023-01-neanderthals-oldest-art-world-wasnt.html

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

https://slate.com/technology/2015/09/earthquakes-and-tsunamis-in-the-pacific-northwest-native-american-myths-and-geoscience.html


quote:

Snavely told Heaton about the stories, and the two of them did something un-geoscientific: They decided to take the Makah story not as myth, but as history. That is, they assumed the Makah were describing a geologically recent tsunami, compared the Makah narrative with their understanding of Cape Flattery’s geology, found the similarity between story and geology “noteworthy,” and published their findings in the scientific literature. After that, other scientists also went looking in the stories for history. A team of anthropologists, geologists, and indigenous scholars led by geologist Ruth Ludwin of the University of Washington took 40 stories collected from native groups along the entire Cascadia subduction zone. They compared the narratives to what was known of the 1700 earthquake and tsunami and found in effect that the whole coast had been telling stories about it.

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXrdZ5kWRqs

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Mandoric posted:

There is the nuance that a recovered written record is guaranteed to be what at least some people believed at the time it was recorded (caveats about manuscript-copying and the time of recording being the time of the copy rather than the original composition, author's potential radical biases, surviving vs. lost sources, etc aside) while oral traditions are not. Believing that the written must be factual is a depressingly common fallacy, but even the example i.e. of Plutarch itself documents the weaknesses of oral tradition over only a four-century gap and the strength of written record over five times that as long as Plutarch's value is taken as a curated selection of what the oral and written traditions were in his time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Singer_of_Tales?wprov=sfla1

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ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Real hurthling! posted:

yes tomato is the reproductive seed of a vine

the tomato is the fruit! the seeds are in the tomato!

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