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RYYSZLA
May 11, 2013


Fart Car '97 posted:

Do you have anything to back this up ?

No direct stats no, just my own gameplay experience with it, but drift0r has either done (by now) or is doing a video on how the CR56AMAX DMR is the best DMR and even beats snipers in a straight up fight under certain conditions (it's literally got one job, harassing snipers, and it is VERY good at it)

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Statutory Ape
Sep 12, 2017



lol finally they added a range finder to longshot kills (30.92m!)

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?


Statutory Ape posted:

lol finally they added a range finder to longshot kills (30.92m!)

Did they add a readout for how many degrees of rotation before no-scoping? If not I donít want to live in this world.

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

o fuk traffic

RYYSZLA posted:

No direct stats no

OK because that's a pretty strong thing to claim with no stats to back it up. The HDR has the fastest bullet velocity of any sniper/marksman by a ~20% margin and the AMAX's base velocity is significantly lower than most other assault rifles.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are destiny.





dunno what to think of the new map yet, but that's probably because I've been matched with insanely incompetent teams so far. Five teammates who've all unlocked the rytec and decide the best way to play demolition is to hug the spawn, forever.

Burden
Jul 25, 2006

yospos


Black Griffon posted:

dunno what to think of the new map yet, but that's probably because I've been matched with insanely incompetent teams so far. Five teammates who've all unlocked the rytec and decide the best way to play demolition is to hug the spawn, forever.

Every multi-player game is now 90% of the players trying to quick scope and not doing the objective. Just played hard point and had 3 and a half minutes on the point.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE


I downloaded the patch last night at 20MB/s yes, Bytes not Bits, I was super surprised, too bad I needed to sleep

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are destiny.





Burden posted:

Every multi-player game is now 90% of the players trying to quick scope and not doing the objective. Just played hard point and had 3 and a half minutes on the point.

I get the instinct, and I'm gonna have to get to it done myself, but my god is it a sorry spectacle.

drunken officeparty
Aug 23, 2006



Is there a new guns? How do you unlock

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are destiny.





drunken officeparty posted:

Is there a new guns? How do you unlock

Three quick scopes with SR or DMR in fifteen matches I think.

Manxome Foe
Apr 6, 2005

Beware the Jabberwock, my son! The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!


200 person BR is a laggy shitshow. It sounds fun in theory, but in almost every match I played I stopped being able to crouch or jump. Plunder is still better.

drunken officeparty
Aug 23, 2006



Black Griffon posted:

Three quick scopes with SR or DMR in fifteen matches I think.

I just finished the ribbon for quickscopes and it was the worst

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Black Griffon posted:

Three quick scopes with SR or DMR in fifteen matches I think.

Can you get them with an iron sight kar?

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009


Black Griffon posted:

Three quick scopes with SR or DMR in fifteen matches I think.

Which is why 6 out of every 12 players in every game is using the Kar or SKS right now.

Statutory Ape
Sep 12, 2017





i think they added a handy lil icon to remind me which controll scheme im using?


or i was blind until today


E: lmao god fuckin drat. shipment when the other 9 people are leveling DMRs and you just do not give a poo poo is lmfaooooo

i team wiped a band of musketeers with a fennec and none of them idiots could hit poo poo lmao

Statutory Ape fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Jun 30, 2020

Statutory Ape
Sep 12, 2017



lol i killed both an enemy and a teammate with the same RPG in my last game and they both rage quit

Chikimiki
May 14, 2009


Played a bit of plunder, new supply run contracts are in and almost everywhere. Seems like they increased the number of bounty hunter contracts as well.
Also, I'm seeing a lot more killstreaks dropping, and lots of cash ballons. Could be just me though.

Statutory Ape posted:



i think they added a handy lil icon to remind me which controll scheme im using?


or i was blind until today


Nah that was always there.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are destiny.





a teammate bounced their grenade off my shield and I was credited with their suicide??

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

o fuk traffic

Some observations/predictions from testing recoils & attachment changes in custom games:

Grau
"All Grau All The Time" is probably over but it's still absolutely a top-tier AR, if not still the #1 all-around AR. Remains to be seen how much its ranges were nerfed. The meta should be a little more diverse now at least. Expect to see More M13s around and maybe even the Kilo will see its day in the meta?? Bruen is still the secret long-range full auto King.

No-stock
You can barely see the recoil increase
BUT the nerf to aim stability is huge, I think it's going to basically remove no-stock from the AR meta in Warzone, because it makes it impossible to get any kind of tight grouping at even mediocre ranges range because your crosshair is wobbling all over the place. The M4 will probably see more use but I don't think you'll see the return of the no-stock M4, even among the console sweats using strike-packs, because strike packs can't compensate for aim-stability.

Rytec
Not replacing the HDR or AX-50 any time soon. Only the Explosive rounds can 1-shot headshot and the explosive round velocity is awful

https://i.imgur.com/w6c5ddt.mp4

lol

Kar 89k
ADS speed buff owns owns owns. Can't wait to use it live because you can now run stability/range/velocity increasing attachments and its ADS is still super snappy now compared to the AX/HDR similarly kitted.

MP5 still the top-dog of warzone SMGs, especially w/ 45rd mag, though no-stock isn't a de-facto attachment anymore.

Fart Car '97 fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Jun 30, 2020

Inner Light
Jan 2, 2020





Couple questions I haven't been able to resolve with google:

"Personal Radar Ė Escort drone that reveals nearby enemies on the mini map and audibly pings them in the world"

What does the audibly pings part mean?

Also sometimes I see little white circles on the minimap that radiate and ping, with nothing in the center. What are those white circles, ghosted enemies...?

Inner Light fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Jun 30, 2020

Statutory Ape
Sep 12, 2017



Fart Car '97 posted:


Kar 89k
ADS speed buff owns owns owns. Can't wait to use it live because you can now run stability/range/velocity increasing attachments and its ADS is still super snappy now compared to the AX/HDR similarly kitted.

MP5 still the top-dog of warzone SMGs, especially w/ 45rd mag, though no-stock isn't a de-facto attachment anymore.

thanks for your work

also im kind of glad to hear about the nostock not being mandatory on mp5, just because itll be nice to feel like i can make a choice i guess?

im gonna go try the k98 again. i used it decently when the game came out but it was not an effective killing machine with slow ADS imho

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE


So the MP5 doesn't technically have a no-stock option, it has the collapsible stock, did that actually get nerfed as well?

Statutory Ape
Sep 12, 2017



wat are u some kind of gun lawyer

Snack Bitch
May 15, 2008

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


Curious about how much they decreased the AMAX damage ranges. Not surprised because it was really good.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are destiny.





Statutory Ape posted:

wat are u some kind of gun lawyer

glawyer

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

o fuk traffic

MF_James posted:

So the MP5 doesn't technically have a no-stock option, it has the collapsible stock, did that actually get nerfed as well?

It seemed very wobbly to me, and all of the "collapsible stocks" have always performed identically to "no-stocks", so I really doubt there's any difference. I could be wrong though.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005

We've never been into punk. It was too traditional.


Snack Bitch posted:

Curious about how much they decreased the AMAX damage ranges. Not surprised because it was really good.

I got one whole night in with it maxed out before they nerfed it (wasn't bothering with it in WZ until I unlocked the Mono suppressor which is one of the last unlocks)and I loved it. I really hope they didn't gently caress it up too bad.

If the damage nerf isn't too significant it should still be be really good at least. Hoping for some trip reports from people today.

Dramicus
Mar 26, 2010


Grimey Drawer

Oh poo poo son, I've got my wooden MP5, I'm stoked.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005

We've never been into punk. It was too traditional.


I am curious as to how shotgun slugs are now that they have gotten literally five! buffs today.

Nash
Jul 31, 2003

Sign my 'Bring Goldberg Back' Petition


I still want to run a shotgun in a kit because I hate myself.

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

o fuk traffic

veni veni veni posted:

I got one whole night in with it maxed out before they nerfed it (wasn't bothering with it in WZ until I unlocked the Mono suppressor which is one of the last unlocks)and I loved it. I really hope they didn't gently caress it up too bad.

If the damage nerf isn't too significant it should still be be really good at least. Hoping for some trip reports from people today.

TBQH I don't think it's going to make much of a difference. The AMAX has some built in limitations to its range in the form of horizontal recoil you can't tame that much, very strong visual recoil, low bullet velocity, a 45 round big-mag, and a strange first-3-shot recoil. It really shines as a short-medium range AR. It wasn't really competing with the Grau in the space of long-range ARs to begin with. Inside 40m is still absolutely shreds with its insanely fast TTK.

I get the impression that they brought its ranges down (along with the Grau's) as an attempt to reduce the AR class effectiveness at long range across the board. I wonder if we'll see the Kilo enter the meta now? or will people who would otherwise use the Grau just stick with the Grau?

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006


Dramicus posted:

Oh poo poo son, I've got my wooden MP5, I'm stoked.

What does this look like?!

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Keep on keeping on.


quote:

Stopping Power is now applied to headshots. Only certain weapons can go from a 2-shot to a 1-shot head shot, like the FAL and Oden. This fixes a few cases where headshots could sometimes do less damage than body shots when using Stopping Power

Stopping Power wasn't applied to headshots before the lastest patch??

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005

We've never been into punk. It was too traditional.


Fart Car '97 posted:

TBQH I don't think it's going to make much of a difference. The AMAX has some built in limitations to its range in the form of horizontal recoil you can't tame that much, very strong visual recoil, low bullet velocity, a 45 round big-mag, and a strange first-3-shot recoil. It really shines as a short-medium range AR. It wasn't really competing with the Grau in the space of long-range ARs to begin with. Inside 40m is still absolutely shreds with its insanely fast TTK.

I get the impression that they brought its ranges down (along with the Grau's) as an attempt to reduce the AR class effectiveness at long range across the board. I wonder if we'll see the Kilo enter the meta now? or will people who would otherwise use the Grau just stick with the Grau?

Yeah, I'd take it with a grain of salt but from what I've read elsewhere, people are saying it's a 10m range nerf, which shouldn't be a big deal. It really only felt useable at >100m anyways and yeah at around 40m is where it really feels like it out shoots other guns.

Even if the Grau nerfs don't ruin it, I'm personally just ready to move on because I'm bored of using the Grau all of the time. The AK got an ADS buff and personally I think it's underrated in WZ so I think I'm going to play around with that and the AMAX for a while.

Also absolutely loving the fennec as a secondary atm. It's just so satisfying in close quarters I don't even care about the 40 round mag maximum. I'm happy they didn't mess with it in this update.

Utgardaloki
Mar 2, 2009


lol i use the ammo mag that turns the AMAX into a DMR like a chump anyway

I primarily use knife/sticks but it's good to have a long range option, but I also like having a tac grenade barrel so I can breach better, and the SKS can't offer that

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009


CJacobs posted:

Stopping Power wasn't applied to headshots before the lastest patch??

Nope, so a FAL would literally take more SP headshots to kill than body shots up close.

Chikimiki
May 14, 2009


Although I hated playing it, I've gotta admit that Rumble was quite good at keeping the quickscopers out of WZ and Plunder. Its absence is definitely noticable

Dramicus
Mar 26, 2010


Grimey Drawer

Bape Culture posted:

What does this look like?!

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are destiny.





Horrible. I love it.

veni veni veni posted:

I am curious as to how shotgun slugs are now that they have gotten literally five! buffs today.

Eh. I tried my slug throwers to see if longshots were easier and switched back to buckshot pretty quickly.

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Statutory Ape
Sep 12, 2017




lol looks like a low rent cs skin from beta 6.5

how do you get it

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