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You gotta be aware that people who play 24/7 are going to have excellent tracking and be able to hit those shots, especially on somebody gliding down on a straight path on a parachute. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmrHEVKSBic That's from several months ago on a free falling player and I'm not as good as the player in the other video. And the current guns have 0 recoil, so that makes it even easier. pacerhimself fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Jul 28, 2021 |
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Shockeh posted:What I endlessly worry is the percentage of actual cheats out there. there's a few people stream sniping streamers with hacks that are in the game to track and kill other known hackers then they let the streamer kill them if they're still alive at the end. streamers literally using hackers to protect them from hackers. also you get aim assist through certain walls lmao https://twitter.com/TylerTeeP/status/1420210611284324352?s=20
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pacerhimself posted:You gotta be aware that people who play 24/7 are going to have excellent tracking and be able to hit those shots, especially on somebody gliding down on a straight path on a parachute. my concern was aim assist tracking could look like aimbot b/c of the aim assist and therefore make people, especially from m&k backgrounds, think there are more cheaters than there actually are comedyblissoption fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Jul 28, 2021 |
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Jul 28, 2021 15:35
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There are a fuckload of cheaters, we honestly run into a fairly obvious cheater in half the games we play. The other half of the games we play, we probably run into really subtle cheaters or we just die before we have a chance to run into the cheaters. It's absolutely loving rampant.
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Jul 28, 2021 17:58
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Shockeh posted:What I endlessly worry is the percentage of actual cheats out there. Everyone who makes the cheats say they estimate 10-15% of players are using a "hack" of some kind. This number is echoed by people using the cheats who are relaying that it becomes very clear once you start cheating how many other people are cheating. It also aligns with other games that have had major issues: Apex, Overwatch, ect. I don't think there's any reason to doubt the number at this point.
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Jul 28, 2021 18:03
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yeah I run into multiple extremely obvious wallers (i.e. literally tracking you through a wall) and rage-aimbotting every single session which aren't as big a deal as people doing narrow fov aimbotting or not being obvious about it but I think stuff I thought was rage botting was just aim assist and weird aimbot-looking flicks are just killcam issues because the server/killcam tick rate is abysmally low and the non-gulag killcams might be all sped up by 1/3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jrwn-nB1H8
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Jul 28, 2021 18:19
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also apparently theres some "cronus/xim" thing I'm unfamiliar with that somehow boosts (???) aim assist and uses scripts to remove recoil and has sold hundreds of thousands of units so lol
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Jul 28, 2021 18:44
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Please don’t associate XIM (good) with Cronus (bad)
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Jul 28, 2021 18:45
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does cronus actually boost (rotational) aim assist with input shenanigans or is that more of a side effect of removing recoil control
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Jul 28, 2021 18:47
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If anyone kills me, they’re cheating.
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Jul 28, 2021 18:59
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Cronus is the thing that is programmed to adjust for recoil automatically, so all you have to do is track people and hold the fire button, the cronus will handle controlling recoil for you so you can laser people.
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Jul 28, 2021 19:50
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This is also how jitter modding on shotguns work but I don’t hear about that nowadays.
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Jul 28, 2021 19:53
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I don't get what's so difficult about pulling down on the stick. Just pull down, it's easy
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Jul 28, 2021 20:16
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it's not difficult particularly w/ cod recoil but you will absolutely hit more shots while tracking dodging or long range targets and headshot if the recoil is removed also some guns have significant lateral recoil
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Jul 28, 2021 20:22
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CoD has always had extremely egregious aim assist, it's just that before crossplay you only noticed that it's horseshit game design if you turned it off and tried to play without. (console shooters can be good without aim assist, and in fact cannot be good with it) it's a lot worse now though as they desperately ramp up the possibilities with aim assist to try and bridge the gap between M+KB to allow crossplay to function, but it's always been very stupid.
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Jul 28, 2021 22:46
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Don't forget that warzone runs at like 20hz tick max which means kill cams always look wonky and gives cheats tons of room to hide
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Jul 28, 2021 23:09
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I do not understand why you would cheat at online games. the only reason I can think of that makes any sense is to ruin other peoples day, which I suppose perfectly aligns with a gamers general MO but doesnt require them to have the skill to do it naturally.
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only some cheaters grief with obvious ragehacking There are cheaters that do narrow fov or more subtle stuff to try to pass themselves off as legitimate and they are by far the worst type of cheater. They aren't trying to grief. this guy did silent aim fov cheating uploading a bunch of fpvods and calling it "narrow" is generous and he still got away with it for a while lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onFAJn8j2Yk
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Laserface posted:I do not understand why you would cheat at online games. I don't think ruining other peoples day is remotely the most common reason for cheating. I think the most common reason for cheating is people who have learned or been taught that the win is the only thing that matters, so 'earning' it doesn't matter as long as they get the win, so cheating is absolutely on the table because why wouldn't you take the advantage if it exists? That plus people who are really astonishingly bad on their own, like you see with a fair chunk of cheaters when their cheats fail to secure an immediate kill with snipers or something like that, probably accounts for way more than anyone purposefully griefing. E: Oh and the probable third option; "If I'd stop getting all these poo poo teammates I'd go up in rank so I'll cheat until I do." Orv fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Jul 29, 2021 |
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I don't understand why people would willingly use FOTM loadouts when everyone is completely aware they're badly balanced. and I mean, you can read that and think 'that's not the same as cheating!' but I personally can't tell the difference - they're just different lines that separate people choose for themselves based on how badly winning matters to them. Once someone is in the mentality of taking any edge to get the W, cheating vs. not cheating isn't necessarily a huge leap.
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Rockstar Massacre posted:I don't understand why people would willingly use FOTM loadouts when everyone is completely aware they're badly balanced. A smooth enough brained take as to be genuinely frictionless. We could build a perpetual machine machine skating things over the cerebellum. You can and should take every advantage you can within the shared construct and rules of the game. This is the same philosophy that has people playing knowingly playing ‘bad’ fighting game characters. But the point is, that’s a shared context - You’re on the same playing field as anyone else, not bringing in an Outside Context Problem. Should you play your best team in the League final? Yes. Should you buy guns and tell your team to shoot the other team at the start of the match? No.
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like professional athletes are absolutely using every supplement or drug that is within the limits of the rules to get an edge on their competitors. cheating to the extent of installing an application that shows you where enemies are thru walls and auto-headshots etc is akin to a 100m sprint runner taking a tablet that teleports them from the start line to the finish line when the gun fires. I can see the point in cheat codes like GTA and stuff, they add fun to a world designed to be played in that way. i dont get actively cheating in a competitive game where the idea is to try and determine who was 'the best' e: im sure there is some self esteem/psychological aspect at play because if you arent winning for your own sake then why the gently caress are you even playing? e2: vvvvvv yeah see for me I find i dont even like using broken/OP weapons before they patch them out. im fine with sub optimal loadouts for fun reasons, and my actual load out for MW core modes is probably not top tier but it suits my play style really well and makes up for my own shortfalls and i play excellently as a result. Laserface fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Jul 29, 2021 |
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Additionally, before I watch someone make the (depressing) extrapolation - There’s also nothing wrong with picking sub-optimal if that makes you happy. I have a lifelong attachment to Jak-12 Frags. Are they good? Kinda, ish, if you squint. Are they best? No, I play much better with the FAL every round of MP, and with the Swiss in WZ. But it’s perfectly fine I do that, because I accept I’m making a sub-optimal choice I personally enjoy, and that is fine and good.
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Rockstar Massacre posted:I don't understand why people would willingly use FOTM loadouts when everyone is completely aware they're badly balanced. The hot-take gimmick has run its course dude, you can just let it go
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Jul 29, 2021 13:26
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Please post your KDR and lobby rank before your bad opinions. Thank you.
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Shockeh posted:Additionally, before I watch someone make the (depressing) extrapolation - There’s also nothing wrong with picking sub-optimal if that makes you happy. I have a lifelong attachment to Jak-12 Frags. Are they good? Kinda, ish, if you squint. Are they best? No, I play much better with the FAL every round of MP, and with the Swiss in WZ. This is a fine point because there are times where the 'meta' guns are so much better than everything else that it becomes punishing to try to play in any way that wavers from that, unless you're very very good. I would love to see their player retention data during the different periods. I would bet they see a lot more casuals spending money when they have easy metas because people love getting kills. VulgarandStupid posted:Please post your KDR and lobby rank before your bad opinions. Thank you. 1.57 overall, 1.21 this season, 1.03 last 50 games lmao I hate no recoil meta
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VulgarandStupid posted:If anyone kills me, they’re cheating. your custom title is mean and hurtful. how'd you get it?
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It’s almost like you could mathematically model how much one gun is better than another. Then compound that difference, over time, and see how much of a difference it actually makes.
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This is my kdr highlight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZVIzXOekqk
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The gun with the bomber wings and spinny propeller is cute 
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lite_sleepr posted:your custom title is mean and hurtful. I told bad PUBG goons that less 1.0 KDR was below average, it wasn’t my job to teach them how to play, made them a pink tag and locked them out of my personal Discord channel.
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Jul 29, 2021 16:48
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Also isn’t the Swiss one of the meta snipers right now anyway? And the FAL is still a top gun but people don’t like semi?
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lite_sleepr posted:The gun with the bomber wings and spinny propeller is cute ABR was way OP for about a month. When you get kills it animates more pacerhimself fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Jul 29, 2021 |
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pacerhimself posted:This is a fine point because there are times where the 'meta' guns are so much better than everything else that it becomes punishing to try to play in any way that wavers from that, unless you're very very good. It's funny because you can see the cycle reflected in the streamers who are always on the edge of the meta. They figure out what's best, abuse it and make their content, then everyone catches on and as the playing field evens out they struggle to perform and make content like they were at the beginning of a meta. So they begin to bitch and complain that the guns they were abusing now need to be nerfed.
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I played a ton of games with independent fov and I have re-concluded you should never use this on PC and should always use affected. Independent fov could give you better recoil control and more precise aiming because the targets are larger. The problem is, independent fov means you cannot see your target when you are shooting at them with iron sights. The weapon bob and muzzle flash are so gigantic it obscures your vision.
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Last night was a real one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaEf_8aTsdc Watch where I am on the kill cam.  ^ this is a strong maybe, could just be good on a new account     
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Jul 31, 2021 15:01
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ragehackers are the least problematic hackers imo
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It's real weird when you get 3 in a row.
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i wonder if ragehackers provide a public service showing you how infested the game really is what % of cheaters ragehack
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What's wild now is that you can often tell if there's someone cheating in the lobby based on the number of people alive around the second ring. Weird rings don't really apply but if the first ring covers a good portion of the map and you're down to <50 people by the 2nd ring, you've probably got some cheaters in the lobby.
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