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Yeesh y'all posting good stuff about Canada and you leave out the best thing ever produced in this land? The Canoe! modern science can't improve on it (except for materials), white people can't gently caress it up and it was designed with the perfect shape to fit on car roofs hundreds of years before they were invented!
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Cory Doctorow is also a Canadian, but his works don't tend to fall into the CanLit classification either, for some reason. Walkaway is probably my favorite book because it somehow manages to be a fairly optimistic dystopian book.
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Jun 4, 2020 18:10
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If canoes were perfect you'd be able to have sex in them without tipping over. 
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MA-Horus posted:The Canoe! I see you have never worked at a summer camp.
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The Butcher posted:I see you have never worked at a summer camp. .....uh, who were you having sex with in canoes in summer camp?
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bunnyofdoom posted:.....uh, who were you having sex with in canoes in summer camp? I meant the kids bashing the fiberglass ones into rocks! Having sex in a canoe is basically impossible anyway. Thwarts man. That's why you sneak out a sailboat.
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The Butcher posted:
"As long as we are only questioning, rather than denying, the humanity of jews, it's legitimate for discussion" Seriously the fascist arguments are always the loving same and it is painful that our education system has not better trained people to recognize them.
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Goddamn stop reading mazalan books of the farten you filthy nerds Read some Rudy loving Wiebe or have your citizenship revoked
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Police investigating whether police have been leaking information to control narrative surrounding the death of Regis Korchinski-Paquet, findings likely to be inconclusive.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Canlit Regis David Frum just wrote a book about trump. 
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PittTheElder posted:Oh boy this survey Jesus. I wonder who commissioned that one
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PittTheElder posted:Oh boy this survey This is pretty gross
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PittTheElder posted:Oh boy this survey If this is you forward that poo poo to Canadaland and even (gulp) Vice. If you saw it posted somewhere else please share the link.
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I am so fed up that government websites and documents have a french half that I don't need to read. This is not OK.
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 Isn't Alberta also pushing through legislation that would make it illegal to even encourage someone to disrupt a pipeline?
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night danger posted:
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Another Bill posted:If this is you forward that poo poo to Canadaland and even (gulp) Vice. If you saw it posted somewhere else please share the link. Yeah this was me, there were a whole lot of Strongly Disagrees, don't have screencaps of most of it though. I actually used the A-R generic feedback box to go off on how repugnant it was, and asking who commissioned it. Forwarding it to Canadaland is an interesting idea, would they be likely to do anything with these? DariusLikewise posted:They are trying to make it illegal to protest "infrastructure" I think it is technically illegal to express a political opinion while on a road now.
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PittTheElder posted:Forwarding it to Canadaland is an interesting idea, would they be likely to do anything with these? I mean, they might. Maybe the thetyee.ca I don't know, I feel like someone should amplify this poo poo. You don't happen to have the survey ID or token to go along? That would at least prove they're real.
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PittTheElder posted:I think it is technically illegal to express a political opinion while on a road now. rip to that woman who says "pipeline!"
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Another Bill posted:I mean, they might. Maybe the thetyee.ca I don't know, I feel like someone should amplify this poo poo. You don't happen to have the survey ID or token to go along? That would at least prove they're real. I mean Angus Reid will also release the results of these survey along with who commissioned it in about a month as well
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PittTheElder posted:Yeah this was me, there were a whole lot of Strongly Disagrees, don't have screencaps of most of it though. I actually used the A-R generic feedback box to go off on how repugnant it was, and asking who commissioned it. 5G towers are infrastructure and we are going to build one right through Jason Kenney's roof
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PittTheElder posted:I think it is technically illegal to express a political opinion while on a road now. That's superb, the biker with the confederate flag jacket and all the people with anti-NDP stickers will have to get in the jail now! ...right? 
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DariusLikewise posted:I mean Angus Reid will also release the results of these survey along with who commissioned it in about a month as well
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Angus Reid does both public polling and private polling. It might never release the results if this is for an org with an agenda. I think people in the ROC aren't aware how bad things are in Québécor media right now - these are columnists at le Journal de Montréal, the biggest paper in the province. https://twitter.com/xaviercamus1/status/1268615064241664000
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I'd like to thank everyone who has commented in this thread or sent me a private message. I'll do my best to keep what you've said in mind. Obviously there's a range of opinions here and it isn't possible to make everyone happy but I can at least try to let my actions be informed by as wide a range of opinions as possible. One thing I have decided is that I've probably been a bit lax on personal callouts. I think that's because I've been guilty of the same behaviour in the past. I'd be lying if I said I didn't often enjoy it when the thread gets heated and people tear into each other a bit. But I think D&D in general has maybe had a bit too much of that recently and numerous different people have reached out to me and other mods about it. So going forward I think I am going to try and bring the standards of this thread regarding posting about posters more in line with the way that rule is now being enforced everywhere in D&D. Arivia posted:honestly I think the week you gave me for posting a cop dying in the NS shootings was way out of proportion (and looks really bad especially now). I guess that I need to take some responsibility here as both the former thread IK and as a D&D mod for not making that line clearer but I want to communicate this very directly: if your first reaction to a mass shooting is to start identifying victims who actually deserved to die then you're going to get a long probation. This is similar to a policy I've followed with people who post about people deserving to die from the corona virus or other similar posts: I see absolutely nothing good coming of a forum that constantly discusses how specific individuals deserved to suffer from horrible deaths. I don't think it adds to the discussion or improves people's posting experiences in any way. While this thread generally has a conversational tone it is still a place where you put your thoughts down in writing and leave them there for the world to see. I don't judge these posts the same way I would judge the comments of somebody I was chatting with in a private setting over drinks. There are some sentiments that are understandable and maybe even healthy to vent in a private conversation that I just do not think are appropriate for the kind of conversation that occurs on a forum. So while it's really not my place to tell oppressed individuals how they should feel about controversial news events, I do feel that it's my role as a moderator of this place to set certain limits on discussion. Fojar38 posted:I still can't get over that a Goon attempted suicide after posting here regularly. That event alone raised a big red flag for me insofar as to the tone of the forums rhetoric and information filters are concerned. This is an extremely inappropriate thing to bring up and if not for the fact that I was actively soliciting people's opinions I'd be inclined to give you a long posting holiday. Do not under any circumstances treat someone's mental health crisis like a talking point you can use against your forum enemies. In the event that someone has a genuine concern for another poster's mental health there are appropriate ways to privately contact the mods or admins. Under no loving circumstances should someone's mental health history be publicly used in this way.
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PT6A posted:Yeah, I feel like a bunch of it is some crotchety English teachers going "I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I read another loving book!" I'm not sure I read anything in high school I'd describe as a favourite, but I've never forgotten this from my junior APEng class: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Having_Our_Say:_The_Delany_Sisters%27_First_100_Years In re atwood and doctorow, I don't like either of them, to be honest, but what really grinds my gears is how pretentious Atwood can be. God forbid you suggest she's ever written sci-fi, no, it's 'speculative fiction,' and she will be absolutely certain to let you know that. In other news: Indigenous woman killed in NB (by the police) during a 'wellness check': https://twitter.com/rc_autochtones/status/1268611576543633408 https://ici.radio-canada.ca/espaces-autochtones/1709147/operation-policiere-edmundston-hill-canada It sounds like there was a knife involved, but I guess we'll see what happens during the investigation. In terms of this thread, I go long periods of time without reading it because it's all too-often too miserable or pricklish, whether by posters or mods. mediaphage fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jun 4, 2020 |
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Baronjutter posted:Unless the perpetrator of sexual harassment is a fellow writer she likes, then #metoo has gone too far and turned into a witch hunt and could hurt the careers. Or if women of a different social class want housing in her neighbourhood. I remember the former, but does the bolded latter reference something specific? I hadn't heard of it, if so.
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Falstaff posted:I remember the former, but does the bolded latter reference something specific? I hadn't heard of it, if so. Guessing it's this: https://torontolife.com/city/society/margaret-atwood-really-mad-condos-built-near-house/ https://twitter.com/stephenjudkins/status/902335976596398080 https://twitter.com/stephenjudkins/status/902342160418091008 https://twitter.com/phillmv/status/902346681919959040 https://twitter.com/ahabeetle/status/902352647218372608 https://twitter.com/MargaretAtwood/status/902347521569280000 https://twitter.com/MargaretAtwood/status/902375576744407040 https://twitter.com/MargaretAtwood/status/902378268686524416 https://twitter.com/MargaretAtwood/status/902389502739664897
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Meh. That Atwood-ajacent condo isn't that bad, but it is absolutely the truth that developers in Toronto have no answers other than building things twice as tall as necessary because they could only get half as much land as you'd really need. It's not possible to replace a streetscape of five-story buildings as far as the eye can see with one made up of mostly two-story buildings with an eighteen-story building thrown in every other block and maintain the same quality of life.
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pokeyman posted:State of the thread: appreciate the effort posts and the regional insight posts. Uninteresting derails are easy to skip, though someone usually manages to mix in an interesting effort post nonetheless. I don't mind the cynical/pessimistic tone, I can go a couple hundred other places for lukewarm boosterism. Jordan7hm posted:Stickarts - you good taking this one and the remaining 300? vyelkin posted:I made this donation before I saw these posts, but if I hope you'll accept it anyway. This didn't take long! Not looking to crunch numbers to donate less money, so here is my receipt for $500 for my local foodbank: 
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mediaphage posted:Indigenous woman killed in NB (by the police) during a 'wellness check': Wow I'm so proud of our great country, it's a good thing we're not like those stupid Americans. We definitely don't do the exact same poo poo but with a populace that's too complacent and smug to care
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This isn't really politics related, besides being in Ottawa. With the pandemic keeping me occupied and most other things falling on the wayside, I've had more time to explore the city during my days off like today. I've lived in Ottawa for almost five years now, moving from one house to another as rent increases, but I wouldn't say I know the city so much as I know certain neighbourhoods. So on my days off I've been going for walks to check out other parts of town. Today, I went along Sussex, into Rockliffe, down into New Edinburgh and then back through Lowertown to get to Rideau. Sussex was hard for me to describe. The best way I could put it was that it felt like a World Fair's City of Tomorrow exhibition. Lots of green space, impressive looking buildings and Rideau Falls had a very refreshing spray of water on a hot day. At the same time it felt like a rich person's idea of what a city should be like, since all the buildings were embassies or government operated, and only the parks were really for people living in the city to enjoy as they move from one spot to the next, but not actually living there. Rockliffe I've been to once before when I acted as a chaperone for a high school trip and got invited to have dinner at the Indonesian Ambassador's house. I don't like Rockliffe. You need to be filthy rich to live in that bizarre pseudo-European quaint village pastiche where everyone has a mansion that looks "rustic" but you still put out rocks along the length of your property to keep cars from pulling over onto your carefully manicured grass. Rockliffe wears the trappings of a rustic village but it has the paranoia and xenophobia of the rich all over it. If I was a black kid lost there asking for help I'd pretty much guarantee the cops would be called on me, just like they were for the actual black kid who got lost there last year. Moving south, I came into New Edinburgh. I can't really get a bead on this place since it's sandwiched between the elitists and ambassador families up in Rockliffe to the north and the old and rundown Vanier to the south. It feels kind of like Hintonburg, where it has the vibe of Westboro but doesn't have the space to really grow. Small neighbourhood, a bit more upscale. When I crossed back over the Rideau I was in Lower Town, but not the super sketchy part along King Edward. In the back end of Lower Town, Macdonald Gardens Park was really quite beautiful for such a small spot, and most of the houses seemed nice and well maintained. I'm guessing that it's like the rest of the city where proximity to the waterfront results in a nicer looking, more affluent part of the neighbourhood. Ottawa remains strange to me. When I lived in Guelph, neighbourhoods tended to have a different mood to them since they are all kind of separate from one another and only accessible by bus. In Ottawa, it feels a lot more mishmash. You could be in Sandy Hill and on a quiet, peaceful street, then you move one block over and it looks completely different. You have parliament and the rideau center, and then you go 100 meters eastbound on Rideau and its covered in homeless and drug addicts. I've seen neighbourhoods change from place to place, but never from street to street. This city is weird.
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