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flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Ottawa wasn't designed, it just happened around us.

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Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

Stickarts posted:

This didn't take long! Not looking to crunch numbers to donate less money, so here is my receipt for $500 for my local foodbank:



And here is mine. Reached out to CPEP and they asked that I donate here instead:

yippee cahier
Mar 28, 2005

tagesschau posted:

Meh. That Atwood-ajacent condo isn't that bad, but it is absolutely the truth that developers in Toronto have no answers other than building things twice as tall as necessary because they could only get half as much land as you'd really need. It's not possible to replace a streetscape of five-story buildings as far as the eye can see with one made up of mostly two-story buildings with an eighteen-story building thrown in every other block and maintain the same quality of life.

Sorry, do you mind explaining the quality of life thing? Are we talking about the stairs they’ll have to climb if the elevator is out?

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Chicken posted:

Somebody mentioned Steven Erikson (Malazan author) earlier and he hates the entire concept of CanLit. He literally wrote a book about how bad the culture is. The blurb on the back:


It has not sold as well as the Malazan books, unsurprisingly. I used to frequent the same coffee shop as him 10 years ago and from his perspective he felt like he was completely discarded from any CanLit discussion because he wrote genre fiction. He's likely the most successful graduate of UVic Creative Writing but you don't see anything about him in the building or from anybody in the department. He claimed that he offered to teach a class about writing genre fiction and they turned him down.

Someone should write a book about what a loving trash heap Malazan is, but a reasonable summary is that it's ten 1000+ page volumes of a loser neckbeard's lovely D&D campaign filled with characters and dialogue as compelling as the English dub of Dragonball Z. Fight me if you disagree.

Chicken posted:

I genuinely like Atwood's MaddAddam trilogy.

I liked Oryx and Crake, although I never read the sequels. It's a better read than the Handmaid's Tale but still hamfisted at times. Unfortunately, I think there's better social commentary to be had in mere genre fiction (The Dispossessed/Left Hand of Darkness, Kindred/the Xenogenesis trilogy). Even in the dare-I-say subgenre of post-apocalyptic fiction, Parable of the Sower is more relevant today, while Station Eleven is a somewhat more engaging read with a higher dosage of CanCon. The Testaments tried to shoehorn more just slightly ridiculous pro-Canadian pandering, but made a slight error of having 2/3 insipid point-of-view characters and a transparently predictable plot.

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe

eXXon posted:

Someone should write a book about what a loving trash heap Malazan is, but a reasonable summary is that it's ten 1000+ page volumes of a loser neckbeard's lovely D&D campaign filled with characters and dialogue as compelling as the English dub of Dragonball Z. Fight me if you disagree.


I liked Oryx and Crake, although I never read the sequels. It's a better read than the Handmaid's Tale but still hamfisted at times. Unfortunately, I think there's better social commentary to be had in mere genre fiction (The Dispossessed/Left Hand of Darkness, Kindred/the Xenogenesis trilogy). Even in the dare-I-say subgenre of post-apocalyptic fiction, Parable of the Sower is more relevant today, while Station Eleven is a somewhat more engaging read with a higher dosage of CanCon. The Testaments tried to shoehorn more just slightly ridiculous pro-Canadian pandering, but made a slight error of having 2/3 insipid point-of-view characters and a transparently predictable plot.

The thing about "respectable" fiction vs. genre is that if something gets big enough it just sort of magically stops being genre fiction. Kurt Vonnegut wrote sci-fi, but you don't typically hear people call him a "sci-fi author".

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

eXXon posted:

Someone should write a book about what a loving trash heap Malazan is, but a reasonable summary is that it's ten 1000+ page volumes of a loser neckbeard's lovely D&D campaign filled with characters and dialogue as compelling as the English dub of Dragonball Z. Fight me if you disagree.

I'm already fighting the drat books, no time to take up another battle.

35% of the way through book 8.

It just keeps going on.

I check the percentage counter from time to time.

It doesn't move. I am trapped in in the swamp of endless mediocre canlit.

mashed
Jul 27, 2004

eXXon posted:

Someone should write a book about what a loving trash heap Malazan is, but a reasonable summary is that it's ten 1000+ page volumes of a loser neckbeard's lovely D&D campaign filled with characters and dialogue as compelling as the English dub of Dragonball Z. Fight me if you disagree.

:agreed:

Its just an unending slog with very little payoff. I gave up around book 5.

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic




I knew my academic career was doomed when I realized I just didn't enjoy reading anymore, especially if it was dry academic writing.

These days, I read trashy webnovels. Plenty of them, some of them actually can be decent half the time, and they take up no shelf space.

tagesschau
Sep 1, 2006
Guten Abend, meine Damen und Herren.

yippee cahier posted:

Sorry, do you mind explaining the quality of life thing? Are we talking about the stairs they’ll have to climb if the elevator is out?

The issue is more the concentration of so many people artificially in one spot for no good reason. Munich and Barcelona are both significantly denser than the old city of Toronto, and they do it with almost no high-rises. Toronto's planners seem to believe that the solution to increase density is to plop down high-rises instead of uniformly increasing density in that neighborhood, and it just isn't. It's a lot easier to rubber-stamp developers' plans, though.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

I was out at Riverdale East last night for a gorgeous sunset, park was the busiest I've ever seen it, lots of groups over 5 people but every group was far distant from each other.

I had to explain to boomers at work why so many young people are going to the parks. It's almost as if they've forgotten that nobody living in a condo has a backyard, and developers tricked the city into the idea of "parkettes" so what the gently caress else are our options to go outside?

My condo has one of the best rooftop patios in the east end and it's been closed along with all the other amenities since COVID started.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

gently caress that was supposed to be in the Toronto thread my bad

Protest starting at Nathan Phillips square. Saunders knelt with protesters, that's a big wet fart.

Nairbo
Jan 2, 2005
Copaganda is in full effect with cops kneeling with protesters, loving gross

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


Nairbo posted:

Copaganda is in full effect with cops kneeling with protesters, loving gross

I saw a video (from Montreal, I think?) showing cops kneeling. The crowd loved it until it dawned that they were just masking up to start gassing the crowd.

There's also this gem from US

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

Nairbo posted:

Copaganda is in full effect with cops kneeling with protesters, loving gross

Torinto activists are trying to figure out if this was organized by the cops or a bunch of well meaning but clueless social media influencers.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Oooh and Douglas Ford is reverting to his larval state, says he doesn't support paid sick leave.

Get hosed Douglas.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

MA-Horus posted:

Oooh and Douglas Ford is reverting to his larval state, says he doesn't support paid sick leave.

Get hosed Douglas.

As a disabled person I am expecting that half of that federal benefit for disabled people (the one time benefit on top of the absolutely extravagant ~$1200 a disabled person in Ontario gets per month) is going to get clawed back by Ontario; Doug Ford has not really done anything to hide his spite for us.

e: lol even the federal cons are calling it not enough support for disabled people

Arivia fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Jun 5, 2020

Lien
Oct 17, 2006
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Arivia posted:

As a disabled person I am expecting that half of that federal benefit for disabled people (the one time benefit on top of the absolutely extravagant ~$1200 a disabled person in Ontario gets per month) is going to get clawed back by Ontario; Doug Ford has not really done anything to hide his spite for us.

e: lol even the federal cons are calling it not enough support for disabled people

It also totally leaves out people who aren't eligible for CPPD, which is a poo poo ton of disabled people. I have a buddy on AISH who I know could use any extra cash, but he's not eligible for CPPD and I guess the loving UCP would claw it back too, anyhow. I don't understand how we have so many cartoon villains in power.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Mask off motherfuckers

https://twitter.com/DFLamont/status/1268952657437343747?s=20

UnknownMercenary
Nov 1, 2011

I LIKE IT
WAY WAY TOO LOUD


Another Bill posted:

Torinto activists are trying to figure out if this was organized by the cops or a bunch of well meaning but clueless social media influencers.

Looks like cop poo poo to me. Nobody should go.

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?
lol

https://twitter.com/ChrisKurys/status/1268990752094408704

https://twitter.com/PnPCBC/status/1268989469803380742

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret

Trudeau doing a symbolic gesture but not addressing the underlying issues?!?

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

apatheticman posted:

Trudeau doing a symbolic gesture but not addressing the underlying issues?!?

I'm sure he's working on defunding the RCMP right n:roflolmao:

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
It’s a very Ottawa protest right now but there are a gently caress ton of people out here which is at least something.

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?
https://twitter.com/Gray_Mackenzie/status/1269017847671459843

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

I think I'm just impressed that Justin shut the gently caress up and didn't try to grandstand.

Staying silent in that situation was the best thing he could have done.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
It's kind of dispersed but the whole area from Elgin to the embassy is packed.

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

MA-Horus posted:

I think I'm just impressed that Justin shut the gently caress up and didn't try to grandstand.

Staying silent in that situation was the best thing he could have done.

I don't think any politicians said anything. I know the mayor and the police chief were in the crowd, but didn't deliver any addresses or anything that I saw.

Peter Sloly is still a cop, but he's, like, a good? cop? He's only been chief since October but what I've seen of him wanting to clean up the Ottawa Police has been decent. It will probably need more than just a new chief though.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



The amount of gnashing of teeth here over Trudeau isn’t any different than the right wing chuds all over the web.

One in the same. Indistinguishable.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Vintersorg posted:

The amount of gnashing of teeth here over Trudeau isn’t any different than the right wing chuds all over the web.

One in the same. Indistinguishable.

Source ur quotes

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

Arcsquad12 posted:

It's kind of dispersed but the whole area from Elgin to the embassy is packed.

Yeah it was jammed. The organizers didn’t do a great job but they got people out, which is a big deal.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?


Crowd had cleared a bit but the ones at the front were going strong

Doopliss
Nov 3, 2012


The downtown CIBC boarded up all their windows in terror of the violent Ottawan mob. We mocked them mercilessly.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Leofish posted:

I don't think any politicians said anything. I know the mayor and the police chief were in the crowd, but didn't deliver any addresses or anything that I saw.

Peter Sloly is still a cop, but he's, like, a good? cop? He's only been chief since October but what I've seen of him wanting to clean up the Ottawa Police has been decent. It will probably need more than just a new chief though.

Oh snap, you guys got Sloly?

I was wondering where he got to after TPS snubbed him for Saunders because he was just a little too earnest about implementing reform

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

Doopliss posted:



The downtown CIBC boarded up all their windows in terror of the violent Ottawan mob. We mocked them mercilessly.

:lol: I missed this

Like what the gently caress man

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

Jordan7hm posted:

:lol: I missed this

Like what the gently caress man

One of the CTV parliament reporters tweeted about this and a bunch of her replies were like "ANTIFA'S A-COMIN'!"

https://twitter.com/atRachelGilmore/status/1268910025113849858


infernal machines posted:

Oh snap, you guys got Sloly?

I was wondering where he got to after TPS snubbed him for Saunders because he was just a little too earnest about implementing reform

Yeah, he's the new top cop now that Charles Bordeleau retired. Like I said, he seems good on the surface about wanting reforms and rooting out poo poo like racism or the cops who were doing a kickback scheme with shady tow truck operators, but it hasn't even been a year yet. I'm hopeful, but it's not something that can be done overnight.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

When you have "Imperial" in your name and you hear the protesters are coming, it's probably just reflex.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Close your eyes and think is the empire when doing your duty. :britain:

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret

flakeloaf posted:

When you have "Imperial" in your name and you hear the protesters are coming, it's probably just reflex.

We got IMPERIAL and COMMERCE in our name... we gonna die!

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Jordan7hm posted:

:lol: I missed this

Like what the gently caress man

https://twitter.com/i/status/1268752335884423169

They've boarded up a big chunk of downtown surrounding where the video was shot. So far there ain't no one out there, but someone is convinced antifa's coming

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Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

https://twitter.com/sarahleavittcbc/status/1269019511937593344

neat

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