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Fried Watermelon posted:Detain people who break quarantine Are they allowed to do this? This is a serious question. I have no idea what the laws are in Ontario.
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Normy posted:My heart tells me the Liberals are going to vote down pharmacare today any reason to believe otherwise? Your instincts were unfortunately correct https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/canada-pharmacare-ndp-liberals-vote_ca_6036b086c5b60e3ed48b601f Seems the excuse is "this is so unconstitutional/steps on Provinces toes, all this trying to figure out how to not step on the Provinces' toes"
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i mean if the liberals gave a poo poo about what the bill accomplished i assume they'd just vote this down and have someone in their party write the bill because you cant give free credit to an enemy
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Speaking of the province's toes: Lorinc on why we need a GTA regional health authority
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Verviticus posted:i mean if the liberals gave a poo poo about what the bill accomplished i assume they'd just vote this down and have someone in their party write the bill because you cant give free credit to an enemy Ah politics, the art of screaming for bipartisanship, while simultaneously shooting yourself in the foot to spite an opposition party for trying to help citizens. This is literally why we can't have nice things
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Orthanc6 posted:Your instincts were unfortunately correct Meanwhile, in C-21, “lol let’s grant federal powers to municipalities which are incorporated under provincial laws.”
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Femtosecond posted:https://twitter.com/DonDavies/status/1364680149086605312?s=20 Shut up Don Davies the Trumpian hyperbole doesn't suit you. You're more like a Howie Mandel germaphobe with hair.
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Duck Rodgers posted:Canpol missed an opportunity with the recent green leadership race. Dimitri lascaris only lost by 2000 votes. We should have got together and voted 10 times each for the actual ecosocialist There's only four of us in here. I'm at least 20 of you
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'My butter seems harder': spread sparks furore over Canada's dairy industryThe Grauniad posted:“Butter is probably two or three times more expensive in Canada than in the United States. And as Canadians, we’ve implicitly agreed to this,” Charlebois. “But we also expect quality. So regardless of what is causing harder butter, people are really wondering what’s going on here. And they’re questioning the lack of transparency from the dairy industry.”
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Femtosecond posted:That butter story seems to be getting such wider coverage than the libs voting against pharmacare. Seems like the NDP comms blew it again. hell, libs angrily defending justin against the porta-potty dig is getting more attention on twitter than the vote against pharmacare
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Femtosecond posted:the NDP comms blew it again. Jagmeet's FB posts are so loving milquetoast right now.
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The pearl clutching going on around this O'Toole port-a-potty video is incredible. How the gently caress is this anything. Edit: I bet the portapotty vid gets highlighted on the national and pharmacare vote is second fiddle or doesn't appear at all. Femtosecond fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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Arivia posted:hell, libs angrily defending justin against the porta-potty dig is getting more attention on twitter than the vote against pharmacare "Pharmacare" and "The Liberals" are trending above "O'Toole" right now in Canada.
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Normy posted:"Pharmacare" and "The Liberals" are trending above "O'Toole" right now in Canada. It wasn't when I looked, but good at Canada for getting a mild amount of sense
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Femtosecond posted:The pearl clutching going on around this O'Toole port-a-potty video is incredible. How the gently caress is this anything. Otoole standing next to a blue box full of rancid poo poo *is* a pretty apt metaphor for the Conservatives. Honestly it should get more traction for making O'Toole look like a weird alien emulating human behaviour than for any transgressions against "decorum." He has the same problem as Scheer that he is a complete empty suit with no fire in his voice that makes all his hyperbolic rhetoric sound forced and awkward. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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Watching the National right now and it appears that the crisis of overly firm butter has pushed aside both stories.
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TO BE FAIR my wife noticed the lovely butter a few months ago when I tried to save a buck by buying Our Compliments butter. I was told to just by Gay Lea from then on.
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Admiral Art McDonald steps aside as Defence Chief amid investigation. https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/admiral-art-mcdonald-steps-aside-as-defence-chief-amid-investigation-1.5323576 Well poo poo. First the Vance controversy shakes things up and now McDonald is gone in record time.
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Jam Band Death Cult posted:Jagmeet's FB posts are so loving milquetoast right now. Lol oh no, the shame Why won't you tweet more Mr Singh, where are your priorities
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Blood Boils posted:Lol oh no, the shame The youth is the future of the NDP and failing to utilize every tool at their disposal to keep them engaged in this countries awful politics is why they are always playing catch up. Us crotchety old curmudgeons wont be happy with it, but social media is now a permanent fixture in politics and the NDP may as well try and use it for some good for a change.
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Jagmeet is active and popular on Tiktok and Twitch and has engaged in live events on both that were very well received. I'd say his youth engagement on social media is far ahead that of the other leaders. Conventional media likes to ignore the NDP for some strange reason... Imagine Trudeau having a chat with his followers live on any platform.
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Blood Boils posted:Lol oh no, the shame Oh ha ha ha, you non-contributing shitbird. Not only is the internal structure and policy messaging of the party bullshit, it doesn't even do a decent job of having surface appeal. Failing to adequately formulate/spread/engage anti-Liberal sentiment after something like this is a millionth sign that the NDP have no fight or substance. Jam Band Death Cult fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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who gives a gently caress the fact that Ontarians actually keeping the "economy" running won't be vaccinated until loving November-january while loving boomers will get to go on vaccinated cruises is stupid beyond belief everything is so loving dumb open. er. up.
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Furnaceface posted:The youth is the future of the NDP and failing to utilize every tool at their disposal to keep them engaged in this countries awful politics is why they are always playing catch up. Us crotchety old curmudgeons wont be happy with it, but social media is now a permanent fixture in politics and the NDP may as well try and use it for some good for a change. Is facebook the way to reach the yoofs these days? Most of the people who use it regularly are 40+ now.
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jettisonedstuff posted:Is facebook the way to reach the yoofs these days? Most of the people who use it regularly are 40+ now. He's on twitch with AOC with hundred of thousands of viewers
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The spicy stuff gets posted on tiktok and instagram. I believe the plain messaging goes out on twitter and facebook. The NDP have made several posts regarding the liberals lying on pharmacare again. But without major media carrying water for them, they can only spread it as far as their current social media fans and the amount of money they can spend on adds. I checked the CBC and it was not covered online as far as I can tell. But the Sask NDP asking to cap delivery fees for Online delivery services are.
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They need to find new avenues to reach their constituents but more importantly they need to be good at it. AOC isn't automatically popular because she's active on Twitter. She spits fire when she talks and she's savvy enough with social media. Just putting Don Davies on Twitter tut tutting about a pharmacare vote doesn't do anything because he's a disingenuous empty suit with no personality besides "hypochondriac."
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MA-Horus posted:who gives a gently caress It’s Doug Ford. I’m surprised groups that didn’t vote for him will get the vaccine at all.
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Was occasionally frustrating to watch, but Layton did seem to pick up the most traction when he started focusing on really small ball "kitchen table" issues like bank fees, credit card fees, airline fees etc etc. Maybe something like that, tilted toward the particular struggles that come along with the pandemic, is something Singh and the NDP should be focusing on. Instead up to this point they've been doing hail mary pass private member bills that will never pass that are wholly designed to embarrass the liberals and give the party something to go to the base with to fundraise on.
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^^dont forget the constant wealth tax proposals!Jam Band Death Cult posted:Oh ha ha ha, you non-contributing shitbird. Not only is the internal structure and policy messaging of the party bullshit, it doesn't even do a decent job of having surface appeal. Failing to adequately formulate/spread/engage anti-Liberal sentiment after something like this is a millionth sign that the NDP have no fight or substance. I dunno, I found their strategy of making the libs look awful by forcing them to deny pharmacare pretty appealing But perhaps it isn't adequate if it doesn't trend on tumblr, who can say Blood Boils fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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Femtosecond posted:Was occasionally frustrating to watch, but Layton did seem to pick up the most traction when he started focusing on really small ball "kitchen table" issues like bank fees, credit card fees, airline fees etc etc. Maybe something like that, tilted toward the particular struggles that come along with the pandemic, is something Singh and the NDP should be focusing on. I mean it's sort of meeting Canadians where they're at. Broadly speaking, Canadians care way more about pocketbook issues than about big structural ones. It's why "my butter got worse" is a bigger story than "we aren't getting pharmacare" and why $16 orange juice is a bigger scandal than a $5B imaginary pipeline. I'd prefer it not to be that way, and I think maybe the NDP could do a better job of trying to link big issues back to small ones to try and contextualize them for Canadians (like, how much would the average Canadian save a year if we had pharmacare? How much is each household paying for that pipeline?), but as others have said the reach of their messaging is already limited by constraints like party finances and the media not bothering to report on NDP initiatives. The problem, I think, is when the NDP stops treating pocketbook issues as a messaging strategy and starts treating it like an end in itself. Pocketbook messaging can be an effective way to communicate the granular impact of larger structural problems, like for example ATM fees or credit card bills are things rich people don't have to worry about and so you could use them as entry points to discuss inequality. But I think the NDP often veers too far into making that an end instead of a means, like Andrea Horwath running an entire election on her signature policy of abolishing ATM fees instead of treating ATM fees as a symptom of an inherently unequal system that needs much larger reform.
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MA-Horus posted:oh look it's the consequences of my actions It says in the article that the feds can come after them as well (and probably will). Potential for jail time and massive fines
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