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Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

vyelkin posted:

Graphs about climate and Albert

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it"

# ¿ Sep 26, 2019 07:03

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# ¿ May 6, 2024 03:59

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

HookShot posted:

Election signs feel like the biggest waste to me, I cannot believe anybody would possibly ever be influenced by random signs placed on the side of the road/in yards.

Name recognition is a thing. People who aren't that up on politics but still feel like they should vote might end up at the ballot and think "Anderson... She must be competent, sure saw her name around a lot".

# ¿ Oct 10, 2019 21:04

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

My dad hated Pierre Trudeau because he (apparently, I haven't looked into this) raised postal rates all at once after holding them steady for many years, instead of gradually during the period of inflation.

Was that just him? He ended up voting NDP in his last couple elections so it wasn't like Trudeau was too leftist or something.

# ¿ Oct 15, 2019 15:04

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

Furnaceface posted:

Hopefully all the fracking causes Alberta to just fall into a giant sinkhole.

Yes the whole province.

Hey I like the part with dinosaurs, can that stay?

# ¿ Oct 15, 2019 18:51

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

Elizabeth May believing in crystal energy is the least surprising thing I've ever heard.

# ¿ Oct 18, 2019 19:40

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

BGrifter posted:

Any chance EMay loses her seat?

No, not really. Her riding is quite safe.

# ¿ Oct 21, 2019 20:18

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

EvilJoven posted:

It was a handout to people who didn't need it, full stop.

Households making 15k and 45k and 65k should get a redistribution from the those making 200k+.

# ¿ Oct 23, 2019 04:48

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

EvilJoven posted:

This statement is completely out of touch with reality. 70k a year is double the median income in this country. Half the population of Canada is living on so much less than this that 70k a year is a fortune for most Canadians, not a baseline.

Both things can be true. 70k may be the baseline for the "middle class life" that people imagine but also above what people actually make. Plus household vs individual incomes get confused a lot since statscan and media reports tend to emphasize the former but lots of people think of the latter. Median household income is 60k or so I think?

Also, of course, this depends on where you are. 70k in Winnipeg gets you a lot farther than in Vancouver.

# ¿ Oct 23, 2019 15:52

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

vincentpricesboner posted:

You would think the left would have the majority of the population, which is non-rich, on their sides on voting day.

They're not non-rich, they're just not rich yet. Lots of people think "well, I/my kids are going to be moving on up anytime now".

# ¿ Oct 24, 2019 19:52

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

Regarding sentencing, also remember that there are different rationales for incarceration: retribution/punishment, incapacitation, deterrence and rehabilitation. A good judge considers all of these and probably gives less weight to the first three and more to the fourth.

Ask yourself, quite seriously, what the benefit to society would be if the sentence had been 15 years.

# ¿ Nov 1, 2019 15:35

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

hadji murad posted:

Can anyone recommend a good book on First Nations history?

Do you mean like, pre-colonialism, post, any particular part of Canada, focusing on any particular subject, etc.?

# ¿ Nov 17, 2019 11:38

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

xtal posted:

Engineers are like the Italian cooks of the professional world, who seem to enjoy the sancumoniousness more than the work itself

I'm not an engineer, but if I did my engineering-esque job incorrectly I'd be fired; and if I did my not-engineering-esque job incorrectly, I'd be liable in exactly the same way

You'd be personally liable?

For example, I'm a software/DevOps guy. I could conceivably gently caress up enough that a double digit percentage of Canadians couldn't bank online for...a day or two? If I did that, I could be fired, sure, but not sued. An engineer who negligently approves a bridge that falls down can be, I'm quite sure.

# ¿ Nov 28, 2019 07:58

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

Hexigrammus posted:

For some reason this reminds me of an old quote from the 80s: "If carpenters built buildings like programmers write software the first woodpecker to come by would have destroyed civilization."

Oh you ain't wrong.

# ¿ Nov 28, 2019 19:13

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

xtal posted:

I removed that bit of my post before you quoted it, but what I was saying was, my day job is exactly the same as yours, and doesn't have personal liability. My side hustle which pays approximately $18/hr does have personal liability and my province makes me have $2 million dollars of insurance. So, my engineering-related job pays more and has no personal liability, and my not-engineering job pays less and does. Clearly the pay isn't related to liability.

Ah, very fair. Wasn't trying to catch you out with the quote or anything, I started it before you edited and didn't notice, my bad.

# ¿ Nov 28, 2019 22:49

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

Yeah pharmacare is such an obvious thing (not to mention dental and vision), it just needs to be sorted out asap. It is unfortunately one of those things a lot of "middle class" people don't think about too hard because their work covers it.

# ¿ Dec 12, 2019 06:07

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

Furnaceface posted:

You have no idea how accurate you are. Ive been working retail pharmacy for almost 5 years now and the number of people who take their plans for granted (ironically mostly boomers who retire early and oops now you need to cover the 62-65 age gap before OHIP kicks in) is terrifying.

Oh, I believe it. I fall into this too, I have a good job with 100% coverage for me and my wife's prescriptions (nothing too fancy), it's super easy to tune it out. The fact that people have to scrounge together money for loving insulin and antidepressants is appalling. Dental too - my four year old asked the other day "does everybody go to the dentist like I do?" and I had to stop myself and say "well not everyone can afford it...".

# ¿ Dec 12, 2019 10:22

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

PT6A posted:

Yes, I know. Corbyn was the socialist, Singh was the urbane, �sensible centrist� sort, and voters decided they don�t terribly loving like either one of those options. What�s the third option for progressives?

Wait 10 years for demographics to shift, try again with a socialist like Corbyn?

# ¿ Dec 13, 2019 19:10

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

vincentpricesboner posted:

Hell, it might have worked this time if they had a more trusted leader than Corbyn. The view of the moldable middle aged voter was along the lines of "boris is a baffoon, but corbyn is an anti-semite". For a lot of people this looked like an all-lose election with no good choices.

My understanding of the UK media at the moment is that they would have done literally the same thing with any other labour leader (who wasn't a tory with a labour hat on, anyway) - the whole "Corbyn is an anti-semite" thing has always been a pretty bullshit attack, no?

# ¿ Dec 13, 2019 22:44

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

tinytort posted:

Yeah. Plus, I'd rather believe my friend, who actually lives in the UK and says "he handled it badly, he's a crap leader", as opposed to rando online who insists that he was perfectly fine and just sabotaged by the media.

If you think he wasn't sabotaged by the media I don't know what to tell you, read a half-dozen articles about him from any of the large UK sites/papers. Even if you believe them as factually accurate they're so clearly biased in tone and phrasing - not to mention that his views have been consistently misinterpreted - that it's blindingly obvious.

He may be a good leader or a bad leader, he may have handled brexit or anti-semitism or whatever else poorly, he was absolutely treated like garbage in the UK media compared to Johnson.

# ¿ Dec 14, 2019 10:34

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

Incarceration has four rationales: incapacitation, rehabilitation, deterrence, and retribution. Longer sentences go along with 2 of them - it's a balancing act.

# ¿ Dec 20, 2019 09:42

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

infernal machines posted:

I'd quibble over the rehabilitation part, I don't think you non-consensually penetrate someone with a broom handle and then go back to being an upstanding member of society, regardless of whether you spend time in jail. Because, again, it's doubtful this just sprang fully formed into their minds one morning, it's very likely a consequence of long term exposure to a very toxic environment that encouraged an escalating cycle of bullying.

Certainly there's a ton of work still to be done on reducing recidivism, but surprisingly (to me, anyway) people who commit sexual assault seem to have a lower recidivism rate than people who commit property crimes. Maybe that's partly that they get better at hiding it, this isn't a trivial thing to measure, but yah found that interesting. I hope these kids become productive citizens but I'm not holding my breath.

# ¿ Dec 20, 2019 21:00

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

EvilJoven posted:

I expect more people would be ok with criminal sentencing that focused on rehabilitation over revenge if our society bothered making attempts to rehabilitate.

The way it is poor criminals face lovely conditions and neglect while incarcerated and come out with a high likelihood to reoffend and wealthy criminals are obviously shielded from the consequences of their actions because wealth protects their own.

And faced with that the public starts demanding blood.

Catch-22 - we demand harsh punishment so criminals don't get rehabilitated, criminals don't get rehabilitated so we demand harsh punishment.

# ¿ Dec 21, 2019 00:28

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

I've yet to see one of those financial advice columns where it's not extremely easy to solve with some basic changes. I'd like them to just once do "I'm 60, have no savings, negligible net worth, and make $34k, how can I retire" just to change it up a bit.

# ¿ Dec 28, 2019 20:41

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

DariusLikewise posted:

According to a popular Manitoba rumour, the Taxi cab companies bribed Manitoba Public Insurance with a large amount of money to make the rule that rideshare drivers needed to purchase extra insurance to ensure Uber would not come to Manitoba

I really love how people jump to conspiracy theories about insurance companies. Could it be some actuaries did some math and determined higher premiums would be prudent? No, must be shady dealings by the cab mafia!

# ¿ Dec 30, 2019 20:54

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

PT6A posted:

My understanding of "no-fault" is that there's no determination of who caused the accident, so everyone gets "was in an accident" on their record, and everyone is responsible for their own deductible.

What's the minimum liability coverage like? If there's no ability to recover additional damages beyond what insurance will pay, minimum liability should be at least $1mil I would think.

No, that's generally not how no-fault insurance works. It's not a great name.

See https://www.ahainsurance.ca/car-insurance/understanding-no-fault-insurance-ontario/ for a description (there are similar ones if you google around too) - basically all it means is that after an accident, you deal with your own insurance company only and they pay you right away(ish) based on your damage. Payment doesn't depend on who is determined to be at fault. Fault is still determined and will affect your future insurance rates, and may impact who pays your deductible.

The trade-off with no-fault is typically that you get easy payout/coverage from your insurance company, but you don't have the same civil redress of suing for more payment because of your injuries or whatever.

# ¿ Dec 30, 2019 23:45

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

PT6A posted:

Ah, then Wikipedia's article is none too good either, of course I suppose it may vary between jurisdictions.

Yah, there are tons of variations, and looks like Manitoba has one of the strictest where you can *never* sue the other driver, basically, if you think your injuries go beyond their coverage, whereas in Ontario you might have more options. Also looks like Manitoba requires only a minimum $200k third-party liability which uhhhh isn't a ton.

# ¿ Dec 30, 2019 23:51

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

DariusLikewise posted:

That's because the third-party liability doesn't really apply when driving in province, any injuries are covered under MPIs personal injury protection plan.

Yah but now I'm just worried about some Manitoban coming over to BC and hitting me and only getting a paltry $200k.

# ¿ Dec 30, 2019 23:55

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

Right, if we're in BC I can go after them under BC law and sue them as normal.

# ¿ Dec 31, 2019 00:03

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

Oh, I guess question to anyone in Manitoba, is MPI well-regarded? Like if you get in an accident is it like "oh great, time for me to beg for them to pay for my crutches and my 2 days off work" or does it work pretty well, generally? For comparison in BC, everyone I've ever talked to loathes ICBC with the core of their being.

# ¿ Dec 31, 2019 00:11

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

Just lol at

quote:

�Farmers would tell us that there�s no real place for a union on a farm,� said Dreeshen.

Yes, and mine owners tell us there's no real place for a union in a mine, shocking.

# ¿ Dec 31, 2019 01:59

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

Pretty optimistic to assume we'll live long enough to hold trials tbh.

# ¿ Jan 1, 2020 01:33

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

quote:

According to the company�s website, companionship with the dolls starts at $149 an hour, a $180 �special� for three hours, or $249 for the night.

Each reservation requires a $100 fully-refundable security deposit and, for an additional $25, you can �keep her panties sprayed with love juice.�

Yikes.

# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 06:28

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

Hamelekim posted:

BC will be in huge trouble if Chinese money dries up.

Depends what you mean by trouble, of course. Lots of us are hoping for some serious price crashes. Boo hoo if that hurts the net worth of some boomers.

# ¿ Jan 7, 2020 17:57

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

flakeloaf posted:

A meaningful consultation with the hereditary chiefs on their terms, which includes acknowledging their jurisdiction over unceded territory sounds like a good start.

How would you handle the disagreement between the hereditary and elected chiefs?

Not that the RCMP blockade is a good way to deal with it, of course.

# ¿ Jan 14, 2020 18:40

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

The Butcher posted:

Yeah it's not really a cut and dry situation.

What's deffo not helpful is letting the cowboys get suited up in their tacticool knock off military gear and ramping things up.

Yah, that definitely does not seem necessary or helpful. Hopefully nobody ends up seriously hurt or killed.

# ¿ Jan 14, 2020 19:34

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

No, see, *our* fossil fuels aren't the problem...

edit: also Coxswain your link in there is trimmed for some reason: https://www.ictinc.ca/blog/indian-act-and-elected-chief-and-band-council-system

Trapick fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Jan 14, 2020

# ¿ Jan 14, 2020 19:43

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

Pinterest Mom posted:

https://twitter.com/richardzussman/status/1219271450529423360

When you're an objective journalist.

What's biased about this take? The protestors blocked/prevented people from getting to ferries to inconvenience them (to draw attention to BC Ferries, the RCMP, etc.). Like yeah "this is who to thank" is kind of eye-rolling language but it's pretty accurate. And the entire press release is right there.

I will admit to not knowing anything about Zussman, so maybe he's just generally lovely.

# ¿ Jan 21, 2020 00:44

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

But the entire stated goal of the protestors (from their own press release) is to disrupt the morning sailings and blockade the highway, presumably to inconvenience people, get people talking, draw attention to the situation, etc.

Like dude's tweet is literally accomplishing the goal of the protestors. If he's against their activism I don't think he's very good at it.

# ¿ Jan 21, 2020 07:54

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

ARACHTION posted:

This is the last stop for the gravy train! No more cryin� on the tax payer�s dime!

I lived in Nanaimo ~10 years ago, and there was a municipal election. One guy running had my favourite ever political slogan on his big ugly lawn signs.

"The gravy train stops here!"

Did he mean there would be no more gravy trains? Or that Nanaimo and its citizens would be entitled to a trainload of metaphorical gravy? I'll never know.

# ¿ Jan 22, 2020 13:19

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# ¿ May 6, 2024 03:59

Trapick: Apr 17, 2006

Only lefties cry.

# ¿ Jan 22, 2020 17:59

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