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I destroyed a random pile of boxes because, this is a video game, of course I'm gonna. And I get penalized for doing so. Your own brother/sister, Akira. How could you.
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Gamespot has a pretty good video up of some non-obvious combat mechanics. There are gonna be some nuts combo videos people make for this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwPJVmHHT88
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Aug 31, 2019 16:11
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I'm on File 3, so about a good hour or two into the game, and I still hate how it runs in 30 fps. It doesn't feel right at all, and I'm having trouble seeing what's going on and reacting accordingly. I wouldn't mind having it display in 540p docked or cutting back on the model complexity or both if it got me to 60 fps.
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Aug 31, 2019 16:35
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Zybourne Clock posted:I destroyed a random pile of boxes because, this is a video game, of course I'm gonna. And I get penalized for doing so. Your own brother/sister, Akira. How could you.
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Aug 31, 2019 16:46
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Inventory question: are salvage items junk for selling or is there an actual recycle mechanic somewhere in the game I haven’t found? I just unlocked upgrading at the start of file 3.
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Aug 31, 2019 16:47
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Inventory question: are salvage items junk for selling or is there an actual recycle mechanic somewhere in the game I haven’t found? Junk
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Aug 31, 2019 17:23
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You know the OP missed the opportunity for "Asstral Chain"
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Aug 31, 2019 17:26
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Definitely changing the controls. Attacking with zR feels rank as gently caress. I'm still in the first proper mission but the combat's not really gelling for me yet. I wasn't a huge fan of V's combat in DMCV either - my natural instinct when I play these games is to run in and mash buttons. Standing back and watching a cooler character mash his own buttons just isn't the same. Otherwise it's good and I'll definitely give it time to click with me. I wish it ran better docked though. It definitely dips below 30 in heavy combat.
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Aug 31, 2019 17:27
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I love this game so far. God bless big rope hero.
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Aug 31, 2019 17:28
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Mokinokaro posted:You know the OP missed the opportunity for "Asstral Chain"
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Aug 31, 2019 17:28
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Don't worry, you get to be a lot more active once the full mechanics open up.
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Aug 31, 2019 17:28
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Steve2911 posted:Definitely changing the controls. Attacking with zR feels rank as gently caress. The combat opens up when you start file 3.
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Aug 31, 2019 17:29
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OP needs to add in big bold letters: the game/combst starts in file 3, everything before is a slow tutorial. Then in even bigger bolder letters: Marie is the best.
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Aug 31, 2019 17:33
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Mokinokaro posted:You know the OP missed the opportunity for "Asstral Chain"  SelenicMartian posted:Asstral-Chan  I'm curious, my first death was because of damage I took during a boss cinematic near the end of file 2. Was there some way to avoid taking damage when the "phase transition" happened or should I have known to have more then half my health at that moment?
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Aug 31, 2019 18:47
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I minimize damage during that transition by running like hell, but it feels like not getting hit at all comes down to having a bit of luck.
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Aug 31, 2019 18:55
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Combat really picks up the further you get. One thing I don't think is clear is that if you Unchain one of your Legions you can summon another one at the same time which is just bonkers damag.e
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Aug 31, 2019 19:24
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chumbler posted:The combat opens up when you start file 3. Ok why the gently caress does the game wait almost two hours to tell you how fun the combat is.
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Aug 31, 2019 19:33
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The boss of File 3 made me realize how unintuitive the slicing controls are. gently caress.
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Aug 31, 2019 19:37
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Steve2911 posted:Ok why the gently caress does the game wait almost two hours to tell you how fun the combat is. The game has a metric shitload of mechanics and it tries to make sure you understand the basic ones before it just starts throwing poo poo at you. Considering I'm hearing a lot of people getting overwhelmed even with the wading pool introduction it seems like an attempt to avoid people just giving up because they got their poo poo pushed in five minutes in.
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Aug 31, 2019 19:41
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ImpAtom posted:Combat really picks up the further you get. One thing I don't think is clear is that if you Unchain one of your Legions you can summon another one at the same time which is just bonkers damag.e I don't follow, Imp. What does unchaining mean? Is it a mechanic you get later in the game? I just got the arm legion and you can do the muda muda muda punch which is pretty awesome.
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Aug 31, 2019 19:55
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JackDarko posted:I don't follow, Imp. What does unchaining mean? Is it a mechanic you get later in the game? There are skills you get which state they allow you to take your Legion off the chain, like the Sword legion's Rush attack. Once you do they become an independent attacker (your energy even starts to recharge) and you can cycle to a new Legion and start using it instantly
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Aug 31, 2019 19:57
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Beast Legion confirmed Good Boi
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Aug 31, 2019 19:59
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i can't dodge a single attack in this game
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Aug 31, 2019 20:01
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lets hang out posted:i can't dodge a single attack in this game Get good.
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Aug 31, 2019 20:08
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ImpAtom posted:There are skills you get which state they allow you to take your Legion off the chain, like the Sword legion's Rush attack. Once you do they become an independent attacker (your energy even starts to recharge) and you can cycle to a new Legion and start using it instantly Oh poo poo that's a game changer. I can see that making Arrow Legion really effective. It makes sense as well since Arrow and Arm aren't very effective as your primary legion. Thanks!
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Aug 31, 2019 20:08
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lets hang out posted:i can't dodge a single attack in this game At least as far as I am, you really need to consider what attacks you can dodge. Figuring out when you can swap to melee and go ham is a big part of not eating poo poo since even if you perfect dodge you still risk getting hit by a follow up. Legions have different sync attacks with different weapons and using the handgun is a good way to handle some enemies who will wreck your face when you get in close. Binding is also an amazing way to deal damage, especially if you unlock the sync-attack-after-binding skill which lets you pretty much instant transition into making enemies eat poo poo. I've kind of found it easier to bind by moving my character and not the legion (or just by using Auto-Bind) but YMMV. It also take some getting used to but Sword Legion's slash ability is REALLY effective as a defensive tool. You'll probably want to use Focus on it unless you've got better reflexes than I do but it's a really useful way to stop certain enemy attacks that dodging won't be much use against.
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Aug 31, 2019 20:09
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I’m just going to dump all my upgrade points on the starting legion then immediately switch to best boy dog legion when it becomes available then using nothing else. Also are the abilities you get random? Because I’ve found some fun stuff like a defense up ability code with a bonus that activates sync attacks automatically. Also after finishing file 3 I was surprised to see that I missed a couple of red and blue cases. I also noticed a few things where I obviously needed a certain legion to access (or a ton of backtracking). So does this game works on a NG+ system or a replay system. You unlock a new difficulty when you beat a file but I see no way of replaying something (yet). Either way I’m loving what I’ve seen so far and it looks like the completionist in me is going to be playing this game for a while. Happy Noodle Boy fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Aug 31, 2019 |
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Aug 31, 2019 20:10
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I suck at chain binds because my dumb brain makes me move both characters in the same direction which generally is not very effective at doing the thing. I also always feel like the chain range is longer than it actually is.
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Aug 31, 2019 20:13
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I know it's probably self-explanatory, but definitely check out training and/or help for more info. For example using your chain to stop an enemy rush attack (this becomes mandatory because a boss way later needs this as a "kill" afaik). Didn't know about the unchaining thing, that's really cool. I actually started unslotting it because 2 skill slots are really precious. (Don't use them for buffing, just buy items instead imo) Edit: ^^^ if you are bad at chain binding, look for autobind for skills (i know sword and beast legion have it)
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chumbler posted:I suck at chain binds because my dumb brain makes me move both characters in the same direction which generally is not very effective at doing the thing. I also always feel like the chain range is longer than it actually is. Yeah, I had a similar problem which is why I recommend just focusing on one character. As long as you're holding down the button it doesn't matter who is moving the chain as long as it loops around them. There is an unlockable skill most of the legions seem to get which lets you Auto Bind everyone in front of you on a cooldown which is nice for hectic fights.
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Aug 31, 2019 20:15
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Taking selfies with everyone is extremely cool.
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Aug 31, 2019 20:19
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I don't know how I feel about my redhead becoming milhouse whenever I whip out my legion. Do I look like some scrapper?
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:
Use your PC at HQ, it's what lets you access old files.
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Aug 31, 2019 20:22
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So I've been playing for a bit and I'm on the third chapter now and I think I hate this game. Maybe it's just me but I am having the worst time seeing exactly what is going on during combat. If there is one enemy then when my legion and I go up and attack it there are so many effects going off that I can't even see the enemy anymore so I just eat hits because I don't know when to dodge. And if there are multiple enemies locking on is a chore because I can be locked on to one thing and the camera will want to point at something else. And trying to use the legion to platform is a mess too because if it isn't positioned perfectly (what the game considers perfect I haven't figured out) you will fall off into the abyss and take damage. If there is something between you and the legion you will either hit it and fall into the abyss or graze the hit box of the object with usually sticks out farther than the object itself does and fall into the abyss. The second point is annoying, but not being able to parse any of whats going on during combat makes this unplayable.
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1. Try setting the fixed camera position option on. I find it did help. The dodge is actually quite poo poo, but you need it early on. After a while you'll be using the legion to zip around instead and once you unlock finishers they work like in Rising and refill your health, making dodging less necessary. 2. You need to have enough room BEHIND the legion to land. It's not too bad once you figure that part out though a bunch of platforms are basically at the extreme limit you can jump which is irritating.
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Aug 31, 2019 22:07
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For binding I bet you can cheese it by using your legion to get in position and then zip lining yourself over to the legion to complete the bind. I'm not near my switch right now to test. It seems plausible though.
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Aug 31, 2019 22:18
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I'm going to add more to the OP as soon we figure out how to actually play this game.
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Aug 31, 2019 22:19
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Auto-Bind seems pretty broken, especially when stacking cool down reduction. I’m on chapter 8 and Auto-Bind into the two guaranteed(?) Sync Attacks procs the execute QTE (which gives a full heal to you and the legion) against literally 90% of trash enemies. Part of it is that the game doesn’t seem to penalize you at all for putting all your upgrade points into the Sword Legion (and baton/legionatus). Flying and invisible enemies are supposed to be the punish for not upgrading other legions but not only are they both rarely seen, they’re also very squishy. Meanwhile the out of combat sections are very well balanced around each legion’s strengths but all the legion upgrades are based around combat afaik (minus stuff like run speed and chain length).
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Aug 31, 2019 22:20
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Is there any benefit to replaying the chapters in Pt Ultimate before moving on to the next one? Do you get to replay them with newer/unlocked abilities? Do you earn more materials for upgrading your Legions / gear?
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For jumping, I find that it helps to look at the chain to see if you will make it. If it's a straight line to your target you will most likely make the jump without getting caught along the way.
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