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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:So, like, some PR guy from Cracker Barrel must be horrified this morning are you kidding they're going to sell so many loving shirts
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Sep 1, 2019 15:48
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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:So, like, some PR guy from Cracker Barrel must be horrified this morning Ironic advertising is in right now
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Sep 1, 2019 15:49
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AEW stinks at battle royales (DON, the womens one last night) but as the company gets established they wont have to do them as much. They should definitely work on making them better though. PS: forgot to mention Nylas new gear was way better last night than the gear she had the first few times.
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Sep 1, 2019 15:49
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Oh btw did they sign Big Swole? If they didnt they are dopes.
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Sep 1, 2019 15:52
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Bits of news from PWInsider: That's the last you'll see of the AAA tag titles in the company going forward. The plan is definitely to continue the partnership with AAA, including talent coming over and talent being sent over, but focus is on the AEW tag title tournament for the AEW tag titles as of now Hope to use Tenille more, nothing confirmed yet Plan is still wrestlers will be cycled on and off of TV so not everyone appears every week. Maintains health, gives people time to spend with families, and gives each week of TV something new and exclusive No TV on Xmas night obviously; TNT will have their annual Christmas Story marathon Bucks were banged up, will be checked on again tomorrow but appear uninjured Error in pyro timing during Cody's entrance resulted in the mortars going off, they spooked Pharoah. Khan and Brandi were pissed. Khan made sure no pyro for Jericho's entrance went off until Page's horse was completely backstage and safe People backstage for the show were Chavo, Chris Nowinski, Lenny Leonard, and NEW's Michael Lombardi
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Sep 1, 2019 15:55
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Im really hoping theyll be able to build Hangman long term and reminding myself of how average a promo PAC was in his NXT/early WWE days is giving me some solace. The build to the first title win/beginning of TV has been rocky and I dont think Page was the Plan A but Im not worried about his future.
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Sep 1, 2019 15:56
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I hope the dog is ok.
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Sep 1, 2019 16:02
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hey guys LAX
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Sep 1, 2019 16:03
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Chris James 2 posted:Bits of news from PWInsider: Fun fact: Mike Johnson hit on my friend at an Indy show once.
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Sep 1, 2019 16:04
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Lid posted:hey guys TNA still has the name so I'm curious to see what Ortiz and Santana will be called in AEW Goddamn that tag division is Stacked 
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Sep 1, 2019 16:06
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Call them LAXXX
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Sep 1, 2019 16:07
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I didn't watch any of LAX as LAX in Impact (mostly know them from Beyond when they wrestled as EYFBO), how serious did they play it in Impact? In Beyond they definitely played up a fair bit of comedy in their matches, even if it was just yelling at each other and stuff like that.
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Sep 1, 2019 16:07
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Chris James 2 posted:TNA still has the name so I'm curious to see what Ortiz and Santana will be called in AEW I was going to suggest Puerto Rico Airport code Theres a slight problem Its SJU
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Sep 1, 2019 16:08
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Perhaps it was from me watching live in the building instead of on my couch, but I thought the womans battle royal came off a lot better then the mens at DoN. It helped that the winner of the match was far more up in the air, rather than the mens pretty much being decided once Page showed up as 21. It also helped that there were a couple storylines already established that were running through the match; I dont know how much got caught on camera, but Bea and Britt were brawling around the arena and into the crowd, stiffing the poo poo out of each other, and that greatly enhanced my enjoyment of the match. In general, while there are still some depth issues to sort out, I cant agree with the idea that the womans division is a sinking ship. We have some clear directions for TV, and I am very on board with the idea of Nyla or Riho as first champ, although there are question marks for both (Nyla is still a bit green, so theyd have to handle her very carefully if they make her champ, while with Riho, I have to wonder how her Stardom schedule is going to affect everything).
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Sep 1, 2019 16:09
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ShallNoiseUpon posted:I didn't watch any of LAX as LAX in Impact (mostly know them from Beyond when they wrestled as EYFBO), how serious did they play it in Impact? In Beyond they definitely played up a fair bit of comedy in their matches, even if it was just yelling at each other and stuff like that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw0ENX-kjAU
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Sep 1, 2019 16:10
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NuclearPotato posted:Perhaps it was from me watching live in the building instead of on my couch, but I thought the womans battle royal came off a lot better then the mens at DoN. It helped that the winner of the match was far more up in the air, rather than the mens pretty much being decided once Page showed up as 21. It also helped that there were a couple storylines already established that were running through the match; I dont know how much got caught on camera, but Bea and Britt were brawling around the arena and into the crowd, stiffing the poo poo out of each other, and that greatly enhanced my enjoyment of the match. Said it as it concluded but the women's BR was hands-down better than the men's if for no other reason than the fact that the winner actually came off as deserving of the title shot they were earning. It was also at least fun which is the best you can hope for in a BR.
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Sep 1, 2019 16:13
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Yoooooo I am very excited to watch this, thanks.
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Sep 1, 2019 16:13
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Excalibur called them The Boricuas when they unmasked.
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Sep 1, 2019 16:13
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Oh Snapple! posted:Said it as it concluded but the women's BR was hands-down better than the men's if for no other reason than the fact that the winner actually came off as deserving of the title shot they were earning. It was also at least fun which is the best you can hope for in a BR. I liked both battle royals but definitely agree the women's was better, more fun, and got you more hype for the winner who deserved it (10 eliminations!!!) Men's battle royal still gets way too much hate imo, there were cool spots, some (not as many though) genuine surprises, it introduced the audience to Orange Cassidy, and it got fans so invested in Luchasaurus he got signed because of it And he's now in one of the company's most-over teams just because they wanted to see him more often Chris James 2 fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Sep 1, 2019 |
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Sep 1, 2019 16:23
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The women's battle royal was better because we knew what the format was going in so while the format was still bad, it was at least less confusing.
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Sep 1, 2019 16:24
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Lumbermouth posted:Excalibur called them The Boricuas when they unmasked.
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Sep 1, 2019 16:31
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If theyre going to insist on keeping the Casino/Card theme for their Battle Royales, literally the only thing they need to do is change from having each suit come out together to having 10-Ace of each suit come out sequentially as individuals
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Sep 1, 2019 16:33
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Im sorry but I just rewatched the Wardlow vignette and my goodness what a silly thing to make.
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Sep 1, 2019 16:37
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fart blood posted:Im sorry but I just rewatched the Wardlow vignette and my goodness what a silly thing to make. Shoulda just remade the Sadie Gibbs hype video.
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Sep 1, 2019 16:39
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fart blood posted:I’m sorry but I just rewatched the Wardlow vignette and my goodness what a silly thing to make. It reminded me of the Lucha Underground Brian Cage vignette. Which is, to say, it ruled.
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Sep 1, 2019 16:40
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Lumbermouth posted:It reminded me of the Lucha Underground Brian Cage vignette. 
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Sep 1, 2019 16:41
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The Wardlow vignette was schlock but if it was done another way painted as serious nobody today would remember the name Wardlow at all
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Sep 1, 2019 16:53
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The show was good but not great. Camera work is still rough at times especially during entrances and more chaotic matches, like the ladder match. Still feels like there are timing issues. Best Friends/Dark Order and Shida/Riho both felt WAY too long. I love Page but nothing in his match made me think he was ready to be champion. Honestly thought they were going for a double turn when he busted Jericho open. Crowd was firmly behind Jericho and while it wouldn't make sense for him to be a face, it felt like that kind of moment. Please don't put your dog 6 feet away from loud pyro and then drag it onto a stage. Cody/Spears was definitely the weakest of Cody's matches so far. Kind of felt like too many shenanigans, but AA loving rules forever. Overall, a fine show. Most of the right people won, but certainly not their best effort.
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Sep 1, 2019 16:59
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All caught up with All Out now. It's a shame that it happened the same night I went to see NJPW live because nothing could live up to that experience but on the whole it was still a good show with Escalera de la Muerte and Riho/Hikaru being my partuclar standouts. I also enjoyed Hangman/Jericho more than I expected although I'm sure everyone on SA hated it. e: Oh yeah and MERCEDES MARTINEZ. Please mean she is signed, AEW.
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Sep 1, 2019 17:14
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man what the gently caress i was piddling around doing that i completely missed page's horse
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Sep 1, 2019 17:16
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Lots of thoughts on the show from a live perspective but not enough time to share them all. One thing that stuck out is that Page was super over, getting some of the loudest pops of the night, before and during his match, but there would also be a lot of dead spots during that match when you wouldnt expect. I think the crowd was very tired after the ladder match and putting Page-Jericho on after just did not work. Crowd was quietest during the Dark Order and joshi matches. They didnt seem to get into this joshi match like they had the previous ones. Im bummed about the Dark Order, theyre very talented and I like certain parts of their act a lot but it just isnt working.
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Sep 1, 2019 17:21
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The show was really good. There weren't any stinker matches and most delivered at a high level in either in-ring action or storytelling (or both.) I don't think Jericho will have a long run, but if it isn't Mox derailing the run early we have got to spend some time building a new credible contender. Which is not a problem at all and actually is a good thing since we've got weekly TV starting soon. I have always assumed the reason for the Dark Order's push was that Bucks vs. SSB was the plan for the first title match. I'm interested to see if that will still be the direction they take or if they take a different approach thanks to Jurassic Express being hugely over. SCU, Private Party, and Best Friends also have a good amount of momentum behind them so there are a lot of possibilities in the tournament. I love the women's world title design and the men's title has grown on me.
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Sep 1, 2019 17:23
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Really good and fun show. A few WWE comparisons ahead so if those make you poo poo your diapers please just skip over this post like you do the rest of mine etcProkhor Zakharov posted:That show was loving great and my party was a huge hit, everybody had a great time and there will be another one come Nov. Posts like this are why I really like that AEW genuinely has something for everyone on most shows and they pace the shows near perfectly so that you can somewhat feel the tonal shifts as to what they are trying to deliver. On a WWE show you can watch five hours of a show and more or less get the same match with the same structure through the entire show. On this one you get your flippy poo poo, your matches with story and psychology and an old school feel, legitimate tag team wrestling, deathmatch craziness, and so on. Every match felt like it was planned out differently and doesn't follow a template and it makes the show exciting. Who expected Omega to pass out and lose by submission? We will look back on that poo poo as being a wild result if we aren't already. Even commentary was drastically different with the team outright mentioning chants that were happening and even using dreaded non-pg curse words instead of avoiding all of it. Also commentary works to put over the wrestlers currently wrestling the entire match instead of fighting with each other to amuse Vince and mentioning the upcoming main event with Roman Reigns the entire match and not calling what is going on. They're already completely separating themselves from WWE's product and offering a true alternative in most every way and it's obviously working bringing back old fans and making new ones and it's awesome to see stories like the above quoted post. MassRafTer posted:Yes, I did. The belt isn't a prop. It should be the main goal of everyone, especially the top guys. It's character motivation. I specifically pointed out why this is bad with a new title and company that is being established. This is one of the worst things WWE has done to wrestling over the years - making the belts meaningless and making people see them as if they don't matter to fans or to the wrestlers. It should definitely be important and the focus of anyone who isn't in a specific feud with someone for another specific reason. Why wouldn't you want to be the champion of the company you are competing in? It's never made any sense that like 3/4 of a roster would never be interested in chasing a championship belt.
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Sep 1, 2019 17:35
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Procrastinator posted:I think I would have been disappointed if I'd paid 65 dollars for that show, but was very ok with 25. Pretty much this. The show peaked for me with Omega and Pac. I actually fell asleep during the ladder war, completely missed the heat. Woke up to everyone laying on the mat, beat to hell. I'm not happy with Jericho as the first champ, but he is deff a better choice then Page.
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Sep 1, 2019 17:46
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Good show, but I can't help but think they need a whole lot more variety among their wrestlers and matches. There's only so many big spot, flippy assault, high impact near falls that I can digest before I become desensitized to it. Maybe I'm just speaking as a filthy casual fan these days, but I hope their weekly show brings the variety. Hosses, squashes, less competitive non-squashes, etc. After seeing guys kicking out of maneuvers like brainbuster/enzugiri combos, tag assisted tombstone piledrivers, and a bunch of stuff I can't name, it's a bit deflating to see the Judas Effect end a match. All these moves raise the bar on what I expect should be match enders, which might be problematic for their weekly show? Djarum posted:Yes, you might get 3-6 good years out of them but then what? You theoretically have a Stone Cold situation where you got basically 5 good years out of the guy before he was done. Every fledgling promotion's nightmare scenario, building up a wrestler to be as famous and popular as Stone Cold Steve Austin for only 3-6 years.
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Sep 1, 2019 17:47
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My crowd of non-fans and casual-fans all really enjoyed the show as well. I feel bad, I got one friend really big into Kenny Omega to the point that he bought one of his t-shirts and every time he's been there to see and event as it's live (he and his wife actually came over at like 6 AM for morning drinks, breakfast and WrestleKingdom this year) Kenny ends up losing. But I loved the show, enjoyed the heck out of it. Also, when they were introducing the hardcore match, my wife heard "Cracker Barrel Clash" as the introduction for a wrestler called "The Cracker Harold Clash" and I've got to go make that wrestler in Fire Pro. I hope that TV will help The Dark Order. I feel like part of the problem is their characters are so indistinct right now. Are they a cult? Do they perform demonic rituals? Are they just a bunch of bondage fetishists? Is there supposed to be a supernatural element? Are they faking supernatural elements as a psychological edge? Fleshing out that kind of stuff I think would help people invest more heavily in them. Cause they're both loving awesome wrestlers, I'd love for them to succeed.
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Sep 1, 2019 17:55
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Im basically mad whenever the EVPs lose or win a match
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Sep 1, 2019 17:59
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I enjoyed the whole show, and appreciated the slower, more deliberate pacing for both Cody/Spears and Jericho/Page. The only disappointment for me was the Dark Order getting the bye - I like them and Uno in particular is doing great heel work, but crowds aren't buying it and other teams (namely A Boy and his Dinosaur) are so much more over that it makes the Order look even worse by comparison. But still, even with some production and timing flaws, watching non-WWE wrestling presented at this level is really refreshing.
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Sep 1, 2019 18:00
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iamsosmrt posted:Good show, but I can't help but think they need a whole lot more variety among their wrestlers and matches. There's only so many big spot, flippy assault, high impact near falls that I can digest before I become desensitized to it. My take on AEW is that they actually do this very well. Cody delivers the old school, southerny kind of blood fued match, Janela deliver's death matches, The Bucks deliver the flippy poo poo, Kenny delivers strong style. Offering something for everyone is one of their big strengths IMO.
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Sep 1, 2019 18:03
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Hellblazer187 posted:My take on AEW is that they actually do this very well. Cody delivers the old school, southerny kind of blood fued match, Janela deliver's death matches, The Bucks deliver the flippy poo poo, Kenny delivers strong style. Offering something for everyone is one of their big strengths IMO. Yeah this might be my casual fandom at this point. I see what you're saying, but seeing everyone compete one after another, the differences in styles felt less relevant as they all start becoming big spot after big spot in the last 10 minutes of the matches. After watching 3 shows, I feel like it takes about 5 finishing moves on average to pin a wrestler.
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