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Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Ash Crimson posted:

Terfs are very ill, they're very sick

Glinner has gone so far off the deep end, he's moved to another pool entirely.

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Hub Cat
Aug 3, 2011

Trunk Lover

https://twitter.com/KirstenGrind/status/1460641844346298371?s=20
My shocked face

and here Nathalie Lawhead did a good roundup of poo poo from this weekend
https://twitter.com/alienmelon/status/1459579021960757252?s=20

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!

man Fritz's thread on this is just horrific, here are a few "highlights"

https://twitter.com/benfritz/status/1460641022162071552

https://twitter.com/benfritz/status/1460641034002579458

https://twitter.com/benfritz/status/1460641046514188288

I could be wrong but I think Kotick will be out as CEO pretty soon. hard to see how he survives a report like this

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
He's going to try to stick it out, but I can't imagine he will succeed at this point. Kotick was yelling today about how dare any one question his extreme personal commitment to being the most inclusive company ever and that's beyond laughable and just seems like desperate flailing.

Notably, too, this is the Oneal promotion (which itself was a massive CYA move, despite Oneal by all accounts being awesome) blowing up back in his face after it came out that even she was being paid less than her male co-president counterpart

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

He should be shot for being thick enough to threaten to kill someone on a recorded call. Too fuckin stupid to run a multinational quite apart from being an evil sex criminal.

Hub Cat
Aug 3, 2011

Trunk Lover

Kotick was probably done months ago imo. Most likely he would have gotten a dignified sendoff when things quieted down, this is fall on your sword level poo poo and jail time if there was any justice in the world.

Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Nov 16, 2021

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1460672531002707976

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

Hub Cat posted:

Kotick was probably done months ago imo. Most likely he would have gotten a dignified sendoff when things quieted down, this is fall on your sword level poo poo.

Yeah when he lowered his salary to minimum wage or w/e I think it was clear that the calculus had changed. How long that and this takes to turn into anything tangible though is anyone's guess. Hopefully they can gut the rest of the senior leadership in the process. If they don't toss out anyone who did even a whiff of drunken sexual harassment or covered for it then it'll just be another couple months before the cycle repeats itself.

I'm not optimistic that the thorough house cleaning will happen, but even kotick going down would be very significant.

Hub Cat
Aug 3, 2011

Trunk Lover

An archive link of the WSJ article, gonna take down the pdf:https://archive.md/qzzFf

Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Nov 16, 2021

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
https://www.polygon.com/22785466/call-of-duty-developer-treyarch-dan-bunting-quits

Zurtilik
Oct 23, 2015

The Biggest Brain in Guardia
I wish I could get two weeks vacation for loving up at my job. Or maybe they fire me with like 3 years salary as I leave, that'd be fine too.

What a world!

Truspeaker
Jan 28, 2009

Zurtilik posted:

I wish I could get two weeks vacation for loving up at my job. Or maybe they fire me with like 3 years salary as I leave, that'd be fine too.

What a world!

For reals, unfortunately it seems like you only get those sweet deals if you not only are bad at your job, but also are willing to hurt other people (and are a dude of course)

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

Lol a friend of mine got hired onto Overwatch yesterday

https://twitter.com/_mlktea/status/1460276261163393027?t=kLHUApxK8Y6vyZ4zZHktSA&s=19

https://twitter.com/_mlktea/status/1460664800040476675?t=JPuJ5vZrETjkK_Rf6X0Zww&s=19

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006

Strategic Tea posted:

He should be shot for being thick enough to threaten to kill someone on a recorded call. Too fuckin stupid to run a multinational quite apart from being an evil sex criminal.

This was also a feature of the flight attendant case, which there's some amount of residual searchable history on even though it was like 15 years ago. Kotick repeatedly saying poo poo he shouldn't in front of opposing counsel and then in the arbitration meetings going "who are you gonna believe, me or an officer of the court?"

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
Also lmao @ "yeah uh everything's above board here, he's just gonna leave now for no reason"

Hub Cat
Aug 3, 2011

Trunk Lover

Sudden onset of Wants to spend more time with his family itis

Dieting Hippo
Jan 5, 2006

THIS IS NOT A PROPER DIET FOR A HIPPO

Hub Cat posted:

and here Nathalie Lawhead did a good roundup of poo poo from this weekend
https://twitter.com/alienmelon/status/1459579021960757252?s=20

furiously trying to clear My Good Name by posting private recordings between someone and their therapist

Zurtilik
Oct 23, 2015

The Biggest Brain in Guardia

Hub Cat posted:

Sudden onset of Wants to spend more time with his family itis

I have that issue to but my boss laughed when I asked for 1.5million in severance.

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1460695834677366794?t=5NEMhh46zdyVwjslCvrqHg&s=19

Of course

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

Hub Cat posted:

and here Nathalie Lawhead did a good roundup of poo poo from this weekend
https://twitter.com/alienmelon/status/1459579021960757252?s=20
wtf at jay tholen blocking her and wren

e: it looks like jay apologized later but geez that was a bad look

The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Nov 16, 2021

Sardonik
Jul 1, 2005

if you like my dumb posts, you'll love my dumb youtube channel

The 7th Guest posted:

wtf at jay tholen blocking her and wren

e: it looks like jay apologized later but geez that was a bad look

Yeah, c'mon Jay. Geez.

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!

this is an absolutely godawful response, obviously, but I don't think this is going to be a tenable position for very long. there's just been a constant drip-drip-drip of reports on Activision's toxic culture over the past couple months, and it seems unlikely that the new WSJ report is the last of it

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

https://twitter.com/benfritz/status/1460641027295903746
https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1460646958226362368

Practically parody. They literally brought her in to lead Blizzard after a sexual discrimination scandal, and then paid her less than the man doing the same job and harassed her until she quit. This is what counts as trying to change to Kotick and the rest of the Activision-Blizzard leadership.

Noob Saibot
Jan 29, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

golden bubble posted:

https://twitter.com/benfritz/status/1460641027295903746
https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1460646958226362368

Practically parody. They literally brought her in to lead Blizzard after a sexual discrimination scandal, and then paid her less than the man doing the same job and harassed her until she quit. This is what counts as trying to change to Kotick and the rest of the Activision-Blizzard leadership.

Devils advocate but couldn’t it be that the guy has more seniority and experience and she’s new to the role?

At my job I’m paid less than some other people in the same position because I’m new to the role.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

they both took the role at the same time. also never post here again.

Violen
Jul 25, 2009

ohoho~
the smash name zero came crawling back out of the swamp today too to boldly claim how everything is lies, lies, lies and he wont be stopped from producing content any longer (while not actually materially denying any of the receipts or direct claims because it'll probably get him into legal poo poo given the team he says he's hired lol)

the localized response has been bleak to say the least but hopefully its just isolated to his own fiefdom

packetmantis
Feb 26, 2013
This is the wrong thread to play devil's advocate in, shithead.

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc

Noob Saibot posted:

Devils advocate but couldn’t it be that the guy has more seniority and experience and she’s new to the role?

At my job I’m paid less than some other people in the same position because I’m new to the role.

Next time you decide to make poo poo up based on nothing to try to cover for an abusive company, how about you don't do that

Noob Saibot
Jan 29, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

Piell posted:

Next time you decide to make poo poo up based on nothing to try to cover for an abusive company, how about you don't do that

packetmantis posted:

This is the wrong thread to play devil's advocate in, shithead.

Why don’t you go advocate for real change instead of crying on an internet message board and attacking me. I was being civil and I’m on the side of the employees not that I give a poo poo what you think

I also like how I’m “making poo poo up” because thinking there could be a reason outside of the narrative inside your head is too scary to contemplate

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Noob Saibot fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Nov 16, 2021

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

Noob Saibot posted:

Devils advocate but couldn’t it be that the guy has more seniority and experience and she’s new to the role?

At my job I’m paid less than some other people in the same position because I’m new to the role.

You've already been rightfully poo poo on, but O'Neal is a twenty year veteran of the industry who has worked on multiple major releases, and the guy she was getting paid less than had the same title and role. There is no reason to pay her less than him other than sexism.

In fact, O'Neal has direct experience running a game studio, so she was arguably a better fit for the role than Ybarra. If anything, she should not only have been paid more, she should have been appointed sole head of Blizzard instead of being shackled to a higher paid dude who was obviously there to be the real boss.

Noob Saibot posted:

Why don’t you go advocate for real change instead of crying on an internet message board and attacking me. I was being civil and I’m on the side of the employees not that I give a poo poo what you think

I also like how I’m “making poo poo up” because thinking there could be a reason outside of the narrative inside your head is too scary to contemplate

Here, let me rephrase your original post: "hey guys just asking questions here, but maybe the CEO who was accused of threatening to kill a woman and had helped cover up hundreds of assault and harassment allegations had a good reason to pay this woman less money for doing the same job as a man? No horse in this race just asking questions don't get mad at me that makes you the real jerk also I don't care what you think so there"

Does that sound incredibly stupid? Because that's what you sound like.

Wicked Them Beats fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Nov 16, 2021

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

Noob Saibot posted:

Why don’t you go advocate for real change instead of crying on an internet message board and attacking me. I was being civil and I’m on the side of the employees not that I give a poo poo what you think

I also like how I’m “making poo poo up” because thinking there could be a reason outside of the narrative inside your head is too scary to contemplate

stfu go back to reddit.

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

Don't play Devil's Advocate, especially when one of the many reasons they were being taken to court by the state of California is because of a massive pay gap between men and women employees anyway.

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1460712229049884672?t=DeojE4Sv1FAVjf5jwbly9w&s=19

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc

Noob Saibot posted:

Why don’t you go advocate for real change instead of crying on an internet message board and attacking me. I was being civil and I’m on the side of the employees not that I give a poo poo what you think

I also like how I’m “making poo poo up” because thinking there could be a reason outside of the narrative inside your head is too scary to contemplate

You're making poo poo up because the claim you put forward is factually wrong, you made it up.

Noob Saibot
Jan 29, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

Piell posted:

You're making poo poo up because the claim you put forward is factually wrong, you made it up.

I didn’t make up anything and didn’t make any claim. I was asking a question and speculating

What the gently caress

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Noob Saibot posted:

I didn’t make up anything

Noob Saibot posted:

I was speculating

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



jesus christ that guy harrased someone, your own HR recommended he be fired, you dont do it and instead keep him on. then all it takes is for a journalist to even ask about the situation for the guy to fall on the sword.

Kotick isnt going to be CEO of activision for much longer.

packetmantis
Feb 26, 2013

Noob Saibot posted:

Why don’t you go advocate for real change instead of crying on an internet message board and attacking me. I was being civil and I’m on the side of the employees not that I give a poo poo what you think

I also like how I’m “making poo poo up” because thinking there could be a reason outside of the narrative inside your head is too scary to contemplate

:qq: I hope the next woman you meet pepper sprays your eyes right out of your incel loser skull.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
The answer to your question is "no, and you are stupid for asking it." I hope you're satisfied now.

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

Cao Ni Ma posted:

jesus christ that guy harrased someone, your own HR recommended he be fired, you dont do it and instead keep him on. then all it takes is for a journalist to even ask about the situation for the guy to fall on the sword.

Kotick isnt going to be CEO of activision for much longer.

The board announced that they actually love Bobby and want to give him hugs and kisses, so we'll see. If the stock keeps slipping maybe the board will have to cave to shareholder pressure, but as of right now they're sticking with the rear end in a top hat.

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30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006

Noob Saibot posted:

I didn’t make up anything and didn’t make any claim. I was asking a question and speculating

What the gently caress

Even if someone was going to give you the unwarranted generosity of believing that your heart is pure, you are clearly too dumb to have the conversation you are currently trying to have.

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