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Bust Rodd posted:This is exactly the opposite of my experience. Gary is my main Wincon and I am slamming people all over the place from unwinnable situations. Priest, Ayara, and Woe Strider mean that untapping with Citadel means I'm guaranteed to win, and all of my engines work with Nightmare Shepherd. I'm not interested in a fast game at all, everything scales really well into the late game. I don't think this is a good Cat+Oven deck, but I'm also just sick of cat and prefer this, and I'm beating cat all day. This is basically my experience as well. Deck just tends to hang out and prevent your opponent from really getting in for damage early, and has a lot of answers to most of the annoying things in the meta right now. I swapped in Eat for Extinction in place of Dragged to the Underworld and it seems solid. Priest seems solid, I might cut Erebos and use that instead.
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I figured out how to win at draft. Cheap Fliers + Hydra's Growth. Flydras.
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Hammer Bro. posted:I figured out how to win at draft. Cheap Fliers + Hydra's Growth. *Drops sorcerous spyglass on the table* My Yawg...
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Funkdreamer posted:I saw Saffron Olive playing against a UW control deck that endlessly grabbed planeswalkers out of the graveyard with Elspeth Conquers Death Been playing this, forgive the pile of x1 in the sideboard as I'm experimenting with cards like Cavalier of Dawn (removal / brings back your big Saga on death), Gideon (cheap beater / meme dream of your minion surviving Shatter) and Whirlwind Denial (for a fifth copy of "gently caress Krasis"). At any rate, it feels rare to need to swap more than 3-4 cards at a time when sideboarding for any given match up. Deck 4 Absorb (RNA) 151 4 Banishing Light (THB) 4 1 Castle Ardenvale (ELD) 238 2 Castle Vantress (ELD) 242 2 Dream Trawler (THB) 214 3 Elspeth Conquers Death (THB) 13 2 Archon of Sun's Grace (THB) 3 4 Hallowed Fountain (RNA) 251 5 Island (ELD) 257 4 Narset, Parter of Veils (WAR) 61 4 Omen of the Sea (THB) 58 5 Plains (ELD) 253 4 Shatter the Sky (THB) 37 4 Teferi, Time Raveler (WAR) 221 4 Temple of Enlightenment (THB) 246 4 The Birth of Meletis (THB) 5 2 Tranquil Cove (M20) 259 2 Field of Ruin (THB) 242 Sideboard 1 Aether Gust (M20) 42 2 Devout Decree (M20) 13 2 Giant Killer (ELD) 14 1 Heliod's Intervention (THB) 19 1 Kiora Bests the Sea God (THB) 52 2 Mystical Dispute (ELD) 58 2 Hushbringer (ELD) 18 1 Gideon Blackblade (WAR) 13 1 Elspeth Conquers Death (THB) 13 1 Whirlwind Denial (THB) 81 1 Cavalier of Dawn (M20) 10
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Went 5-0 with a mediocre bant pile with good auras. I guess people don't always pick the removal.
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Holy poo poo I won’t give up. This gently caress face has been abusing the hell out of the timer trying to bore me to death. 30 minute in to him beating the timer by a second or two. They really should shorten it each time it happens.
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Vannifar combo is hilarious It's helpful that the meta basically gave up on running removal
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Funkdreamer posted:Vannifar combo is hilarious I knew there was a reason I started winning games again in the poop-tier leagues with my bad Golgari deck. It's full of assassin's trophies, deathsprouts, plague crafters, harpooners and cavaliers of night. It's no Jund Sacrifice but I like the cards and the guild symbol is ants so 
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The mulligan timer should be a quarter of its current length and the timer for Bo3 should be 20 minutes at most. If a player ever gets down to 10 minutes on the current clock, even if it's at the very end of game three, a horrible injustice has occurred. Right now the clock might as well not exist at all.
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Darox posted:The mulligan timer should be a quarter of its current length and the timer for Bo3 should be 20 minutes at most. If a player ever gets down to 10 minutes on the current clock, even if it's at the very end of game three, a horrible injustice has occurred. Right now the clock might as well not exist at all. Huh? 25 minutes is standard time for timed magic best of three games. I've seen games drag close to time between two grindy/control-y decks. The rope being too long and resetting weirdly is way more of an issue to me than 25 minute timers on bo3.
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Jan 22, 2020 07:47
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The MTGA bo3 clock is 30 minutes instead of 25 for some inane reason
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Paper magic doesn't use chess clocks, 50 minutes + extra turns for an entire round doesn't really equate to "exactly 25 minutes per player and if you go over by a second you forfeit the entire match". The only way the whole match goes beyond 50 minutes in Arena is if you are also taking a significant amount of time.
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srulz posted:https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/standard-league-2020-01-20 I have Ashioks Erasure in the side board just for UG! No more Hydroids no more Nissas... EVER!
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Funkdreamer posted:Vannifar combo is hilarious
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lmao at all the people thinking heliod is viable in brawl. there is no where near enough removal in white
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I am a no-brain-man and can’t work out how to access Theros Traditional Draft from the menu. It’s been live for days, right?
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vegetables posted:I am a no-brain-man and can’t work out how to access Theros Traditional Draft from the menu. It’s been live for days, right?
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Click the toggle at the top right of the screen to show you all play modes. Then click the "play" button so the right-hand slidey thing appears. Then find it in the list.
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Spiderdrake posted:Are advanced modes enabled? Ahhhhhh
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Don't worry, that part of the UI is actively real bad. Theros Trad Draft itself is a clear 10/10 right up until this gravy train comes to a stop though. 
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Relin posted:lmao at all the people thinking heliod is viable in brawl. there is no where near enough removal in white There are plenty of white removal enchantments right now, what? Heliod owns.
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Kanfy posted:Don't worry, that part of the UI is actively real bad. Teach me.
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Sometimes you have a nice, comfy color combo established and then pack 3 happens Now to figure out how to build this E: Probably just toss green tbh got some decent white cards to sub Insurrectionist fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Jan 22, 2020 |
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Kjermzs posted:Teach me. Pray for good cards and bad opponents Those three runs are all the experience I have, but mostly my takeaway has been that you really want to have a theme and winning condition for your deck. Fliers, auras, sacrifice, escape, whatever, but you want to minimize cards that don't play into that plan and relying on just a bunch of ground dudes to get through probably won't do the job. That 3/3 green vanilla common that untaps a creature would've been a solid include in most formats, in this one it's a last resort. The graveyard's like half the game, ways to get rid of enemy creatures without sending them there (exile, pacifism) is often preferable and incidental self-milling (Mire Triton, Venomous Hierophant) is very powerful in decks that like Escaping. Overall if an effect causes cards to go to the opponent's graveyard, consider it a potentially major drawback. Enchantment removal is pretty much just removal in a lot of cases, Return to Nature isn't just playable but something you like to pick. A lot of Sagas, Enchantment Creatures and Auras can just ruin your day. White and especially White/Blue decks have a lot of ways to dodge removal at instant speed for cheap, so watch for that and don't get too greedy waiting for opportunities if you can get something when they're tapped out. The above goes both ways, there is a lot of instant speed removal and other trickery so don't overcommit too fast if your shields go down as a result and the opponent looks like they might have something. Auras are good for once, don't understimate even the cheap ones like Sentinel's Eyes and Setessan Training as they can do a lot of work. Commanding Presence has been a real ace for me so far. Don't cram too many Escape cards into one deck since they all compete with each other. Prioritize the real good ones like Pharika's Spawn and work backwards to weaker ones from there, the "Exile x cards" part of Escape is almost always more restrictive than the mana cost. Oh, and you should play 2 colors almost always from my experience. Most top-tier power cards in the format that aren't Ashiok or Polukranos are double symbol ones that are hard to splash, crippling your mana base for one card isn't worth it unless I guess that card is Kiora Bests the Sea God or you're playing heavy green with a lot of "free" fixing. Kanfy fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Jan 22, 2020 |
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One more thing which is true for all sets but so key for long-term success that it's worth mentioning: Learn the commonly played instant speed effects. If you can predict when and which instant/flash your opponent is going to play, you'll avoid an enormous amount of bad plays and improve your odds considerably. Don't play around every little thing, but like if a blue opponent leaves three mana open on an empty board on turn three in Theros, don't run a 1/2 or smaller in for that sweet 1 damage without a backup plan because while it could be a counterspell or Omen of the Sea, odds are much higher that it's a 2/2 Vexing Gull that'll eat it and leave you in a very unfavorable situation. Kanfy fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Jan 22, 2020 |
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Zero VGS posted:F2P Master, baby: how do you f2p without drafting? is there another way to get gems? or do you just.. not?
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Truga posted:how do you f2p without drafting? is there another way to get gems? or do you just.. not? Instead of paying 5k gold for a draft you pay for packs
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Just Newbie Things: I'm playing the Boros precon against this guy who plays Simic Ascendancy, so he'll win at the start of turn if he can play twenty +1/+1s. I'm smacking him a little while he ramps and then he plays a hydra with eight +1s. I can't deal with that so next turn he plays a galloping lozrog that makes sixteen +1s. He "good games" me  I shrug and attack with my dudes, knowing he just blocks em and I lose...until he uses the lozrog to block my Truefire Captain, which (maybe incorrect name aside) deals damage to a player equal to the damage it takes. The responsive "good game" while I aimed nineteen damage to his face was pure honey. Anyway...is there a weekly prize handout in this like Hearthstone's brawls? Or anything nice at the end of the daily and weekly win payouts?
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drat, Priest of Forgotten Gods in MonoB is legit, I'm convinced. Just got to drop an early Citadel with Priest and quickly combo off. This deck is so fun
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:Instead of paying 5k gold for a draft you pay for packs Yeah, I'd like to do that to get wildcards faster, but OTOH I get a few just from leveling up mastery. It takes longer, but I can use draft gem winnings to unlock the 2nd mastery thing. Kashuno posted:drat, Priest of Forgotten Gods in MonoB is legit, I'm convinced. Just got to drop an early Citadel with Priest and quickly combo off. This deck is so fun Priest has helped me cast liliana on a ton of occasions in my eld monob decks it owns
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Truga posted:how do you f2p without drafting? is there another way to get gems? or do you just.. not? I only pay for the Mastery Pass and I draft fewer than five times a set. Just get your 4 wins a day and buy packs, it’s extremely generous for a F2P game.
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SuperKlaus posted:Just Newbie Things: I'm playing the Boros precon against this guy who plays Simic Ascendancy, so he'll win at the start of turn if he can play twenty +1/+1s. I'm smacking him a little while he ramps and then he plays a hydra with eight +1s. I can't deal with that so next turn he plays a galloping lozrog that makes sixteen +1s. He "good games" me There are the daily quests for gold/xp, the daily wins for gold/cards/xp, and the weekly wins for xp, and the end-of-season bonuses for rank on the constructed/limited ladders. That's it except in event-based play. thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Jan 22, 2020 |
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i've been f2p since they introduced the mastery pass, so far i've only had to draft right when the new one comes out since the pass itself comes with ~2200 gems, or something like that. just make sure you've saved up a bunch of gold at the end of the season and do your best in ranked drafts. before eldraine i immediately went 7-0 and could afford it, for theros i had to do 2 drafts to be able to afford the mastery pass. it probably helps that i never draft otherwise so i'm always in bronze. now i'm back to dumping 100% of my gold into packs cause wildcard progress is the most important thing.
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Bust Rodd posted:I only pay for the Mastery Pass and I draft fewer than five times a set. Just get your 4 wins a day and buy packs, it’s extremely generous for a F2P game. Paying for the mastery pass is paying money. There's other ways to convert gold to gems that don't affect your limited rank, like omniscience drafts, but why would you do that to the exclusion of ranked drafts?
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Paying money for mastery pass amounts to paying ~$3/month. I'm not going to add another grind on top of my 4 wins + quest/day to save $3 a month.
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Is there a way to pick the order of the stack when resolving simultaneous things? I keep having Ayara plus at least one other creature wiped with a Shepherd in play, and obviously I'd like to make Ayara's token first because... well, why wouldn't I... but it doesn't offer me a choice even with full control. Is there a way?
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thespaceinvader posted:Is there a way to pick the order of the stack when resolving simultaneous things? I keep having Ayara plus at least one other creature wiped with a Shepherd in play, and obviously I'd like to make Ayara's token first because... well, why wouldn't I... but it doesn't offer me a choice even with full control. Is there a way? its in your settings under gameplay
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drainpipe posted:Paying money for mastery pass amounts to paying ~$3/month. I'm not going to add another grind on top of my 4 wins + quest/day to save $3 a month. We're not talking about what is the best course of action to derive the most enjoyment out of the game, we're talking about how you would get those stats as a free to play player.
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Nah the stats make sense, I could get to mythic easier if I just opened packs instead of drafting because I'd get more wildcards. I just wouldn't have the mastery pass thingies then. I think now that I'm already starting at a bunch of gems instead of just whatever new accounts get, it'll be much easier tho. Also not starting the season a month late.
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