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There used to be landhome, where if you didn't own a land matching the color of the card in question it'd get sacrificed. New mechanic: landallergy, if you control a land (or permanent that's <color>) then the thing in question is sacrificed. Could make gifting mechanics reaaally interesting methods of removal. That big guy's got red-allergy? Have a goblin! Kabooom!
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Bust Rodd posted:If they didn’t catch Oko I feel like you can’t really expect anything out of them TBQH Pretty much. There were a lot of people at the time saying it was a one off and a result of some weird development thing, and maybe that's true, but they only get so many excused fuckups before the whole process looks like poo poo.
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Weird match just now, Azorius deck opens with Leyline of Anticipation, then only plays instants, including a mainphase Sphinx's Revelation.
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Sep 22, 2020 23:17
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This month is awesome, everyone is playing bad decks in historic, trying to force new cards into their decks. I ran Plat and Diamond and hit Mythic all in one day, with the solitaire Thassa Oracle deck. 1 rare, 56 lands. Mythic is no challenge in new set months. Funso Banjo fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Sep 22, 2020 |
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Sep 22, 2020 23:18
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Funso Banjo posted:This month is awesome, everyone is playing bad decks in historic, trying to force new cards into their decks. I ran Plat and Diamond, in one day and hit Mythic with the solitaire Thassa Oracle deck. 1 rare, 56 lands. Still looking for a home for Nullpriest of Oblivion, maybe Vampires or a Cleric deck. Its kind of annoying that you can't play "traditional" non-ranked, I don't want to lose ranking on experiments.
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Sep 22, 2020 23:21
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Funso Banjo posted:This month is awesome, everyone is playing bad decks in historic, trying to force new cards into their decks. The best place to farm right now is Ikoria Quick Draft; I never drafted Ikoria while it was out, but God I've had some easy runs this week (while the good drafters are all playing the new set). The downside is my rating is inflated, so I get stomped when I do real drafts (Zendikar seems hard).
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Sep 22, 2020 23:54
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El Spamo posted:I don't know how feasible this kind of thing might be, probably moreso in an online format since you can have the software do enforcement. Since most of the degenerate things that happen are specific card combos (i.e. Uro/Omnath), could you ban certain card combinations instead of cards themselves? Such as, it's not legal to play Uro and Omnath in the same deck, but you could still play them separately from each other. Easy enough to do on MTGA since the deckbuilder could simply exclude the other when one is chosen. It worked fine in paper; theres no benefit to trying to run 2 restricted cards because if you play both you get caught, and if you dont play both youve got a dead card that if it ever gets discarded you get DQ/No Prize Youd just throw Uro, Omnath, Ugin and Brazen Borrower on the list and it solves everything since no deck can run any combination of the two
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Sep 23, 2020 00:13
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Only got your opponent to 1 life by turn 4 on the play? Sorry kiddo, it's Ugin Time
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:Yeah I'm well aware of all those things. Uro also can't easily jump you to 8+ mana on turn 4 or 5. Uro's also been in Standard for quite a while and none of the bullshit that deck does was possible before Omnath. Uro isn't that deck's Plan A, he's more like Plan B or C. He's a roleplayer It appears printing an eighth mana colorless planeswalker in standard was a mistake
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Shrecknet posted:this is how NetRunner handles its MWL; there was a list of cards that were all degenerate and broken, but you could only have 1 of them in your deck. So when you saw the Aesop's Pawnshop come down across from you, you knew you didn't have to worry about Tapw0rm. If they did this they’d use it as an excuse to not give you wildcards!
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Sep 23, 2020 03:29
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:Yeah and Omnath does it better. Uro is obnoxious in any honest format, but that isn't what current Standard is at present. There's a whole bunch of lists running around rn and nobody's truly sure of the optimal build but some of the well-placing ones aren't even playing a full set of Uro in favor of adding more copies of weird poo poo that either enable Omnath bullshit or convert Omnath bullshit into value better than Uro does Omnath is easy to deal with because you can just kill it with instants or counter it. Uro on the other hand just comes back unless you run cards to specifically hate it out. Cards that weaken your game against Omnath! Uro's been a problem since he was introduced and he is way more format warping than Omnath is.
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https://twitter.com/Syntheticuh/status/1308524066689740800
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oops! all omnath!
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Eej posted:Omnath is easy to deal with because you can just kill it with instants or counter it. Uro on the other hand just comes back unless you run cards to specifically hate it out. Cards that weaken your game against Omnath! Uro's been a problem since he was introduced and he is way more format warping than Omnath is. Guess we'll see if/when Uro gets the boot, then. I don't think it's going to do much of anything to contain the deck
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Sedisp posted:It appears printing an eighth mana colorless planeswalker in standard was a mistake *looks inside bag that says DEAD META* *finds a turn 4 ugin* WotC: ...I don't know what I was expecting.
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Of course it's going to be Uro. Cobra is almost as broken, and Omnath is at least as broken if not more, but there's no way in hell they'll ban cards from a set that's on the shelf. EDIT: maybe they'll ban Ugin too, although I'm not holding my breath. Gynovore fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Sep 23, 2020 |
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So the set officially releases in paper on Friday, and bans are (maybe) happening on Monday. How did the timing of releases and bans work back in the Urza's days? Is this going to end up being even faster than the Jar ban?
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Sep 23, 2020 04:19
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Not gonna lie, swingin' with a 9/7 on turn 4 in draft is pretty satisfying. T3 Relic Golem, T4 Maddening Cacophany + Mind Carver.
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Jabor posted:So the set officially releases in paper on Friday, and bans are (maybe) happening on Monday. I think there was one card that they banned day 1. Clamp, maybe?
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Jabor posted:So the set officially releases in paper on Friday, and bans are (maybe) happening on Monday. Memory Jar came out on February 15, on March 1st they banned Dream Halls, Earthcraft, Fluctuator, Lotus Petal, Recurring Nightmare, and Time Spiral, and then in mid-March they announced an emergency ban of Jar.
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Sep 23, 2020 04:38
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Watching Nizzahon's banned and restricted series, it strikes me just how many cards have been banned in the short time I've been playing MTGA (which was about a year ago).
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Huxley posted:I think there was one card that they banned day 1. Clamp, maybe? No, clamp lasted close to 6 months.
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Absolutely abysmal showing in the two drafts I did today. I'll post them tomorrow maybe but right now I'm drat tired and frustrated.
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SalTheBard posted:Watching Nizzahon's banned and restricted series, it strikes me just how many cards have been banned in the short time I've been playing MTGA (which was about a year ago). It's staggering. FIRE and Play Design have completely failed to prevent broken cards from being printed.
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Broken cards are good as long as they get banned tbh
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It's definitely wild to see so many bans in such a short period, especially when my main competitive stints in the game were during the Affinity era and the Caw-Blade era which took a very long time before they pulled the triggerLone Goat posted:No, clamp lasted close to 6 months. I'm still amazed by the Clamp just because Darksteel came out when I was when I was a dumb babby who had only made the jump from kitchen table Magic to FNM and even I immediately clocked that you could just put it on X/1s and bury your opponent in card advantage. I know the whole Suicide Sweater story but it's wild people who balanced Magic cards for a living didn't catch it
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Sep 23, 2020 05:22
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My rule is: if my dumb rear end can recognize how powerful and exploitable a card is, it's getting banned. Nice knowing you, Zareth.
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Sep 23, 2020 06:12
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man pseudo omnath deck wrecks in brawl too
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Chamale posted:It's staggering. FIRE and Play Design have completely failed to prevent broken cards from being printed.
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Honestly i don't think Omnath will even eat or need a ban. Maybe in another set the ramp will have better payoffs but if you nix uro and Ugin you are no longer consistently getting triggers and nothing omnath can easily cheat out immediately ends the game.
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if they ban omnath and not lotus cobra they're just going to have to ban cobra next time a big mana card shows up
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thank you brawl baddies for using all your removal on omnath when i have a t1 ruin crab
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Funso Banjo posted:This month is awesome, everyone is playing bad decks in historic, trying to force new cards into their decks. I ran Plat and Diamond and hit Mythic all in one day, with the solitaire Thassa Oracle deck. 1 rare, 56 lands.
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Lancelot posted:How does this deck work? 1 Thassa's Oracle, 3 Treasure Hunt. Hope to draw two of the four non-lands in your deck. Cast Treasure Hunt on turn 2, Treasure Hunt on turn 3, and both Treasure Hunt and Thassa's Oracle (with a now-empty library) on turn 4. Lose to any discard or counterspell.
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So was that brawl matchmaking adjustment that made all the niv and kinnan decks fight each other an automatic thing based on win rates or do we have to wait for the devs to manually put all the Omnath players in their own little queue? Because I was miraculously actually enjoying brawl for once just before ZNR came out.
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Bland posted:So was that brawl matchmaking adjustment that made all the niv and kinnan decks fight each other an automatic thing based on win rates or do we have to wait for the devs to manually put all the Omnath players in their own little queue? Because I was miraculously actually enjoying brawl for once just before ZNR came out.
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Also if Kinnan was in the too good queue, he's certainly not anymore. I keep facing him constantly.
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This deck? Kinda owns. Who needs G https://twitter.com/coL_Petrify/status/1308353709731061760
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Huxley posted:I think there was one card that they banned day 1. Clamp, maybe? Mind's Desire in Vintage
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