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No Wave posted:before we go overboard keep in mind this deck was balanced last set. Aggro being especially weak is more the culprit than field is (though aggro being weak is absolutely something they knew was coming) I will lol if they ban Grazer though
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You fuckers, you told me literally 2 days ago to go ahead and blow all my wildcards on a Golos deck. "Don't worry, if they ban it you'll get the wild cards back"... yeah for one set... not the other 20 rares! I'm ruined! edit: OK so, for best of 1, what is the absolute fastest deck to either win, or prompt a Concede, or make it obvious to me I should concede. Something like last rotation's Mono-U or Mono-R where it is super obvious to the opponent when they are hosed. Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Oct 9, 2019 |
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Oct 9, 2019 22:19
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Zero VGS posted:or prompt a Concede Anything that involves 4x Duress and 4x Thought Erasure.
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Oct 9, 2019 22:24
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Zero VGS posted:You fuckers, you told me literally 2 days ago to go ahead and blow all my wildcards on a Golos deck. "Don't worry, if they ban it you'll get the wild cards back"... yeah for one set... not the other 20 rares! I'm ruined! You can still pull off plenty of victories with Golos! He's a 3/5 after all, you'll only have to hit with him 7 times. And think of all the lands you'll have while you do it! You don't even need to use his activated ability. Golos is that powerful. for your edit question, it's for the average rando it's usually thought erasure or the glorious T2 Oko
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Oct 9, 2019 22:24
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zoux posted:Ah. Well, you must have faith in Ali.
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Oct 9, 2019 22:25
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Chomp8645 posted:Anything that involves 4x Duress and 4x Thought Erasure.
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Oct 9, 2019 22:26
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zoux posted:Ah. Well, you must have faith in Ali. Golos Fires. Actually this decks sucks the more I think about it. There's a reason I'm no Ali.
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Oct 9, 2019 22:49
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Zero VGS posted:You fuckers, you told me literally 2 days ago to go ahead and blow all my wildcards on a Golos deck. "Don't worry, if they ban it you'll get the wild cards back"... yeah for one set... not the other 20 rares! I'm ruined! Hard to predict that the best deck in standard would get hammered down, turns out it was too good! Enjoy your wins for the next 3 weeks, and unfortunately, that's how the cookie crumbles. Also, the only rares that you're really going to be out are golos, so it's like 4 rares. Every other card you crafted (except king Kenrith,  ) has a home in another deck.
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Oct 9, 2019 22:53
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All the other rare cards in golos Fields except Golos and Field will almost certainly still see play. Edit: I still have hope for Kenrith even.
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No Wave posted:before we go overboard keep in mind this deck was balanced last set. Aggro being especially weak is more the culprit than field is (though aggro being weak is absolutely something they knew was coming) Cards that existed last standard that rotated out: Alpine Moon Field of Ruin Blood Sun Saying "The card was balanced last set" is meaningless when every good answer to it rotated Also LOL at "Aggro being weak" Cavalcade is insanely fast
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Oct 9, 2019 23:02
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I wouldn't mind seeing Field of the Dead as a restricted card if Wizards would ever do that in Standard.
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Oct 9, 2019 23:11
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Kin33 posted:I wouldn't mind seeing Field of the Dead as a restricted card if Wizards would ever do that in Standard. Field always should have been legendary. It's a field that zombies just pop out of, are there lots of those through the Multiverse?
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Oct 9, 2019 23:14
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Maybe it'll get the Nexus treatment, bo3 only
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Oct 9, 2019 23:34
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Field always should have been legendary. It's a field that zombies just pop out of, are there lots of those through the Multiverse? apparently all of amonkhet is like that
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Field always should have been legendary. It's a field that zombies just pop out of, are there lots of those through the Multiverse? A lot of people died in War of the Spark, ok
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Chadzok posted:Maybe it'll get the Nexus treatment, bo3 only The timing of the announcement is the day after the Mythic Championship 5 on Oct 18-20 (Standard Bo3 Arena) because decklists were just submitted for that event. Mythic Championship 6 is November 8-10 (Standard Bo3 and Eldraine Limited Bo3 Tabletop). My guess is WotC saw that 50%+ of the decks submitted for MC5 are a flavor of Golos Fields. The games are going to be boring. And if the meta didn't shift before MC6, the viewing experience would be even more miserable because it's tabletop. Every mirror would go to time. It'd be a nightmare. Nexus was banned in Bo1 prior to the Bo1 Mythic Invitational tourney because it's dreadful to watch and was also OP in Bo1.
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https://twitter.com/KanyeBestMTG/status/1182017967246254080 Icon of Ancestry in a Boros Knights deck but how do you argue with that rank Augh and my quest today is 750g play WR spells, here I go lads zoux fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Oct 10, 2019 |
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:
It’s also insanely bad
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Zero VGS posted:edit: OK so, for best of 1, what is the absolute fastest deck to either win, or prompt a Concede, or make it obvious to me I should concede. Something like last rotation's Mono-U or Mono-R where it is super obvious to the opponent when they are hosed. Cavalcade. It's not a good tourney deck but it's a good bo1 grinder. There's also Skies: 4 Empyrean Eagle (M20) 208 4 Rally of Wings (WAR) 27 9 Plains (XLN) 263 4 Faerie Miscreant (M20) 58 4 Healer's Hawk (GRN) 14 4 Hypnotic Sprite (ELD) 49 4 Loyal Pegasus (M20) 28 4 Faerie Guidemother (ELD) 11 2 Sephara, Sky's Blade (M20) 36 4 Spectral Sailor (M20) 76 4 Hallowed Fountain (RNA) 251 9 Island (MI) 0 4 Winged Words (M20) 80 Which will either kill them quick or fold to a board sweep. Either way it won't be a twenty minute game.
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Oct 10, 2019 01:18
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Time posted:It’s also insanely bad Lol okay
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Cavalcade of calamitous win rate!!!
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Lol okay It literally wins 42% of its games in mythic. That’s bad
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Oct 10, 2019 01:25
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An aggro deck whose weakness is "having blockers" and "playing some removal" is a bad aggro deck
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Yeah there's a difference between decks you bring to the ladder/tournament plays and decks you use to grind wins in quickplay. Cavalcade sucks poo poo for former but is pretty good for the latter. Especially with all the fuckers running Golos in quickplay.
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Chomp8645 posted:Here, I refined it a tad too. I cut a few of the extraneous x1 cards and kept the mana simple. This is easier to use as a base. This also brings it down to just two rares and two mythic rares. I think it's really effective relative to the crazy low amount of (relevant) wildcards you have to use on it. I'd say the Senate Griffins, Time Wipes, and Azorius Skyguard are swappable within their mana costs if you want to try other big flyers or sorceries. I also might swap the Winged Words back to Wardens, hard to say. But I'd say this is a great start point. Thanks so much!
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Ok so the problem I’m having with Gruul in Bo1 is basically that I will absolutely lose if I ever draw 3 or more lands in a row. If you’re ripping threats reliably then you can’t really lose but any flood whatsoever and it’s game over
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Time posted:It literally wins 42% of its games in mythic. That’s bad In the highest level of competition you say
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:In the highest level of competition you say He's right though. Cavalcade blows against a ton of top tier decks and there's so many try hards in Mythic spamming the top tier decks all day.
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Oct 10, 2019 03:31
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lol every deck in platinum is either golos or a deck clearly meant to prey on golos but is still not actually favored against them
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Oct 10, 2019 03:51
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Bust Rodd posted:Ok so the problem I’m having with Gruul in Bo1 is basically that I will absolutely lose if I ever draw 3 or more lands in a row. have you considered playing a deck where flooding out still generates 6/6 worth of stats every turn?
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I'm watching the ELEAGUE SHOWDOWN on twitch right now. Field of the Dead is not long for this world. Also I'm super glad I didn't buy the mastery pass for this set because I can easily see myself taking a couple weeks off this game until the ban hits.
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Field is such an absolutely messed up card in retrospect. Having a card that generates a board presence with less than zero mana cost and an incredibly low opportunity cost is insane. This feels like a Skullclamp level fuckup.
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Oct 10, 2019 04:19
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AnEdgelord posted:Field is such an absolutely messed up card in retrospect. You forgot no good way to counter it.
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Interestingly I think it would have been fine if they hadn't rotated out literally every good piece of non-basic hate.
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Trying to get some of my friends to play MTGA, but why is it that now even the most straightforward monocolor has an absolute fuckload of rares/mythics in it? Cheapest barely functional deck right now would be budget gates and it's not exactly the kind of deck you want a newbie to play. On a side note I'm getting asked about bi/tricolor decks with such a level of enthusiasm that I'm deliberately withholding information on shock lands for fear of scaring them the gently caress away forever.
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Interestingly I think it would have been fine if they hadn't rotated out literally every good piece of non-basic hate. True, which is even more odd with the cycle of powerful utility common and rare lands in Eldraine. You'd think non-basic land hate would be plentiful.
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Hell just have the field of the dead zombies come in tapped would have given the aggro decks an extra turn for lethal.
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It’s hosed up that Golos can mull to 5, go Grazer growth Spiral Circuitous route And untap on T4 with a basically unbeatable board state and for absolutely no cost, no investment, and with no real method of interaction. LOL if you ever wondered how dumb some magic players are Twitter is alive with people speculating that this new B&R announcement will be about banning Astrolabe in Pauper or loving Oko in Brawl like Jesus Christ lol Bust Rodd fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Oct 10, 2019 |
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Zero VGS posted:You fuckers, you told me literally 2 days ago to go ahead and blow all my wildcards on a Golos deck. "Don't worry, if they ban it you'll get the wild cards back"... yeah for one set... not the other 20 rares! I'm ruined! i'd feel bad for you but you willingly chose to play golos fields so you deserve everything you get and more
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Bust Rodd posted:LOL if you ever wondered how dumb some magic players are Twitter is alive with people speculating that this new B&R announcement will be about banning Astrolabe in Pauper or loving Oko in Brawl like Jesus Christ lol both of those are actually completely reasonable speculations and when it got pointed out to me that the announcement specifically mentioned digital formats and got pushed up to right when the first brawl events are happening on mtga it definitely makes a lot more sense that it'd be brawl bans
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