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DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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Paul Zuvella posted:

Love 2 be pounded in the butt by teferi because I am extremely woke

Actually Idris Elba is very cool, and also my dad.

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DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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Why was Rampaging Ferocidon banned anyway?

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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Make lots of food tokens and bring them to life with Karn and whatever else turns things into artifact creatures! RAWR, I smash you with a giant walking pie!

EDIT: I love "Bake into a Pie". It's legit one of the silliest black cards I've ever seen.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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Drewjitsu posted:

Sillier than making a giant formless (non-indestructible) godbeing walk the plank to its death? (or a flying creature?)

I mean, you'd have to have a pretty good kitchen to get some of the more esoteric things out there, but it's not impossible. You don't know, they could be big Heston Blumenthal fans. :colbert:

Step 1: Have leyline of anticipation
Step 2: Cast Frogify on Gideon Blackblade on opponent's turn
Step 3: Cast Bake into a Pie on frogified Gideon

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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Lone Goat posted:

My friend let me tell you about Noggin Whack



Brb brewing up mono-B slapstick deck

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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MTG Arena Throne of Eldraine: Sometimes Everyone Needs Help From A Teferi Godmother

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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zoux posted:

Mouse Tribal baby

Mouse Guard
Creature - Mouse Soldier :black101:

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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I threw my Azorius Teferi deck against this event - the one that has no real win condition besides "People scoop against Teferi" and "Hitting face with a zombie token, I guess" - and encountered no Cavalcades, just strange jank.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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Simone Poodoin posted:

Several turtles in this set, how close are we to be able to play turtle tribal?

Pretty close, I'd say! With Icon of Ancestry being your tribal engine.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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I am happy that my thread title proposal got noticed. :unsmith:

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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I threw together this deck because I wanted to build a deck around "Puss-in-Boots", the idea of putting Crystal Slippers on a Cat.

4 Charmed Stray (WAR) 8
5 Mountain (ELD) 265
4 Crystal Slipper (ELD) 119
10 Plains (ELD) 253
2 Embercleave (ELD) 120
3 Sentinel's Mark (RNA) 20
4 Gods Willing (M20) 19
2 Feather, the Redeemed (WAR) 197
3 Ajani's Pridemate (WAR) 4
4 Boros Guildgate (GRN) 243
4 Infuriate (M20) 145
3 Burning Prophet (WAR) 117
2 Nahiri, Storm of Stone (WAR) 233
3 Sacred Foundry (GRN) 254
2 Temple of Triumph (M20) 257
3 Samut's Sprint (WAR) 142
2 Beloved Princess (ELD) 7

It turns out that having Charmed Stray or Beloved Princess with Embercleave is a wonderful thing, and is the perfect Ajani's Pridemate pump! People have been so trained to kill Ajani's Pridemate that they tend to forget the Double Strike on something with Embercleave.

I mean, it's basically just a Feather deck with some accoutrements, but I like it, and it worked pretty well for me.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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I have been climbing the ranks again and making steady progress with this, the most fun of decks. The key here is Rule of Law, the deck is built around it. Once you have that, you can totally control the flow of the match.

No Fun Allowed posted:

Deck
2 Starfield Mystic (M20) 39
9 Plains (ELD) 253
1 Ethereal Absolution (RNA) 170
8 Swamp (ANA) 58
2 Ill-Gotten Inheritance (RNA) 77
3 Pacifism (M20) 32
2 Trapped in the Tower (ELD) 33
3 Luminous Bonds (RIX) 12
3 Prison Realm (WAR) 26
2 Revenge of Ravens (ELD) 104
2 Oath of Kaya (WAR) 209
1 Karn, the Great Creator (WAR) 1
4 Orzhov Guildgate (RNA) 253
1 Temple of Silence (M20) 256
2 Godless Shrine (RNA) 248
4 Kaya's Wrath (RNA) 187
3 Doom Foretold (ELD) 187
1 Conclave Tribunal (GRN) 6
1 Leyline of Sanctity (M20) 26
3 Rule of Law (M20) 35
2 Brought Back (M20) 9
1 Hushbringer (ELD) 18

Sideboard
1 Glass Casket (ELD) 15
1 Bolas's Citadel (WAR) 79
1 Grafdigger's Cage (M20) 227
2 Tome of the Guildpact (RNA) 242
1 Wand of Vertebrae (GRN) 242
3 Sorcerous Spyglass (ELD) 233
2 God-Pharaoh's Statue (WAR) 238
4 Meteor Golem (M19) 241

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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OK, so I am like the opposite of that guy a few pages ago who only likes to play creature aggro and hates and doesn't understand counterspell decks. I love counterspell decks, especially Azorius. My problem, though, is that I'm not sure what responses I have in U/W against small creature aggro. If I'm on the draw, they lay down 1 mountain, play a hasted creature, I kind of don't have any options until, like turn 5 when I can cast a board wipe. By then I'm likely almost dead.

What's the recommended course of action?

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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GrandpaPants posted:

Deputy of Detention, Prison Realm, wish fairy are all solid azorius cards that can slow early aggro.

gently caress I'd tooooooooooootally forgotten about Deputy because nobody plays it anymore in Silver. Thank you! It's the perfect thing for sweeping away these boards full of Tin Street Dodgers and Knights of the Ebon Legion.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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RPZip posted:

Teferi, Brazen Borrower, Wish Fairy (as a 1/4 blocker for 2) are what you're looking for. RDW is still going to be a tough matchup for you, but against Dinocleave and the like it can be brutally effective since the creatures don't have haste.

How's Unsummon looking? I got all excited about Deputy but realized I only have 2 copies of him and no rare wildcards. I have two Wish fairies, and like 1 Brazen Borrower.

I was thinking something like

4x Unsummon
2x Quench
2x Deputy
2x Fae of Wishes
4x Absorb
4x Teferi

I've been on a huge Rule of Law kick recently, and have been trying to fit at least 2 copies in every deck I've built lately. The game just slows to an agonizing crawl when I have Rule of Law down and a hand full of counterspells.

EDIT:

thespaceinvader posted:

Signed, that guy who's beeen complaining about playing aggro versus control for several days.

Oh hey, let's gently caress. :wink:

DrSunshine fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Dec 18, 2019

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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Well, because I'm control I can basically win with whatever I like as long as I survive long enough. So my endgame can be a bunch of different things, depending on what I want to tinker with that day. I'm just building sort of a basic survival shell that I'll fill in later.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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Argas posted:

Have you considered that I am the only moral MTGA player in the world.

I have, quite carefully, and come to the conclusion that you aren't.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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The thing I hate the most is when my opponent says "good game" after, like, turn 2. That is REALLY annoying!

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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Splash black for Cry of the Carnarium or add in Sorcerous Spyglass.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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A Moose posted:

So, the answers are: maindeck narrow answers that still probably won't work, don't play standard. Got it.

I guess by continuing to play catoven and getting trounced, wizards can still say "look its not a problem people are playing other decks". Guess im making cat oven.

I hope they weren't planning on arena sticking around. Or maybe this is how they're letting us know they're phasing out Standard? 3 banworthy metas in a row is really loving bad.

Well, I mean, Cry of the Carnarium is still good against more stuff than just the cat. The current meta loves going wide with small creatures, and stuff like cavalcade, Orzhov or Mono-B vampires, and knights is super vulnerable to that kind of board wipe.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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Karn is pretty good too. You can sideboard in a lot of useful artifacts, and his passive totally shuts down the oven.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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Lagomorphic posted:

The doom foretold could work with a dreadhorde invasion supplying an extra body each turn. You need to oven the token to turn it into a cat and doom the cat though. It's a lot of work to setup but I did dumpster a guy earlier after queuing into their doom foretold deck with my monoblack catoven deck.

Doom Foretold can't be used with tokens, though, so it's not going to work with dreadhorde invasion.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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Irony Be My Shield posted:

You can sac the token to oven and use that to revive the cat if you sequence it properly.

Ah right that's true! My mistake.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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I call this deck "A Jerk's Deck". Behold!

quote:

3 Rule of Law (M20) 35
4 Teferi, Time Raveler (WAR) 221
4 Time Wipe (WAR) 223
3 Midnight Clock (ELD) 54
4 Elite Guardmage (WAR) 195
4 Absorb (RNA) 151
4 Brazen Borrower (ELD) 39
3 Trapped in the Tower (ELD) 33
3 Pacifism (M20) 32
2 Brineborn Cutthroat (M20) 50
2 Realm-Cloaked Giant (ELD) 26
2 Hallowed Fountain (RNA) 251
4 Tranquil Cove (M20) 259
4 Azorius Guildgate (RNA) 243
6 Island (ELD) 257
6 Plains (ELD) 253
1 Castle Ardenvale (ELD) 238
1 Mystic Sanctuary (ELD) 247

DrSunshine fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Jan 9, 2020

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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It's me, I'm the guy with the 23-mana win condition.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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Zero VGS posted:

All they have to do is admit defeat. I'm teaching them an important lesson in humility.

Also, reprint Humility.

"In fact, by not recognizing and conceding their inevitable defeat, the opponent is the one being rude to me!"

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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This is a deck with a simple premise - get Nissa + Evolution sage + Some land elementals, then get Nissa's ulti off and buff up your lands to insane levels! It's a deck I have tinkered with before Eldraine, but I think it's been made a lot more fun with Brazen Borrower from Eldraine and Uro from Theros!

Nissa Go Foom posted:

4 Risen Reef (M20) 217
1 End-Raze Forerunners (RNA) 124
3 Nissa, Who Shakes the World (WAR) 169
3 Tamiyo, Collector of Tales (WAR) 220
3 Pause for Reflection (GRN) 140
4 Healer of the Glade (M20) 176
4 Root Snare (RNA) 137
2 Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath (THB) 229
2 Leafkin Druid (M20) 178
3 Growth Spiral (RNA) 178
3 Brazen Borrower (ELD) 39
4 Evolution Sage (WAR) 159

9 Island (THB) 281
10 Forest (THB) 287
1 Breeding Pool (RNA) 246
4 Simic Guildgate (RNA) 257

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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I made a lovely combination. It wins using Mnemonic Betrayal!! The basic recipe is something like this:

4x Root Snare
4x Merfolk Secretkeeper
4x Leyline of Anticipation
4x Wilderness Reclamation
4x Tamiyo
2x Fae of Wishes
2x Mnemonic Betrayal

Sideboard:
2x Mnemonic Betrayal

Add in whatever else you want to keep yourself alive. Have 2 Wilderness Reclamations, Leyline, and Mnemonic Betrayal, and about 4-5 lands. Make sure that you've milled your opponent a whole bunch, or killed a lot of the opponent's stuff by then. At your end step, float a lot of mana, cast Mnemonic Betrayal, and proceed to recast/summon every card in your opponent's graveyard at them.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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Imagine what Historic will look like after M21 drops. Teferi tribal here we come!

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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If you don't like your opponent to interact with you, then play Teferi and Leyline of Anticipation and just be a counterspell deck, and maindeck hate for everything. You get to feel like a 100000th level hyper genius by locking up everything the opponent does!

Also, what kind of insanely slow play are you that you get rolled by someone paying 5 or more mana at sorcery speed to stop whatever it is you've got going?

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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If you guys want to have a fun and stupid time in Historic with a fairly cheap deck - try having 2 of each Honden and 2 of each Sanctum. I plugged this into a guildgate archetype with guild summit, gates ablaze and archway angel, and it's marvelously dumb. Lots of fun!

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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sephiRoth IRA posted:

Ooh that’s an idea! I might have to check this out. What’s your full list?

Here you go!

Shrinechaser posted:

Deck
2 Sanctum of Tranquil Light (M21) 33
2 Honden of Cleansing Fire (CHK) 14
2 Sanctum of Calm Waters (M21) 68
2 Golgari Guildgate (GRN) 248
1 Honden of Seeing Winds (CHK) 69
2 Sanctum of Stone Fangs (M21) 120
1 Raugrin Triome (IKO) 251
2 Sanctum of Fruitful Harvest (M21) 203
2 Simic Guildgate (RNA) 258
2 Honden of Life's Web (CHK) 213
2 Sanctum of Shattered Heights (M21) 157
2 Izzet Guildgate (GRN) 252
1 Honden of Infinite Rage (CHK) 172
2 Honden of Night's Reach (CHK) 116
2 Sanctum of All (M21) 225
2 Shinechaser (ELD) 201
2 Archway Angel (RNA) 3
4 Gates Ablaze (RNA) 102
2 Dance of the Manse (ELD) 186
3 Narset, Parter of Veils (WAR) 61
2 Azorius Guildgate (RNA) 243
2 Orzhov Guildgate (RNA) 253
2 Dimir Guildgate (GRN) 246
2 Boros Guildgate (GRN) 243
2 Rakdos Guildgate (RNA) 255
2 Gruul Guildgate (RNA) 249
2 Selesnya Guildgate (GRN) 256
1 Savai Triome (IKO) 253
1 Indatha Triome (IKO) 248
1 Zagoth Triome (IKO) 259
1 Clear the Mind (RNA) 34
2 Guild Summit (GRN) 41

EDIT: So I didn't have quite enough uncommon wildcards to get me to 2 of each shrine, but it works well enough as it is. You could sub out the Shinechasers for that if you have enough.

DrSunshine fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Jun 26, 2020

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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thespaceinvader posted:

It's a solid card with a little bit of upside (2/2 for 2 that can't be killed by blocking is not terrible, it can provide a bit of buff) but it's definitely not something to build around. Take it, if you get some dogs, great, if not, it'll fill curve, but don't expect and invulnerable dog army every game.


I was wondering if honden/sanctum deck would be a thing...

Winota + Dog Lord + Many Dogs + Many Humans

Man's best friend!!

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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I am so happy right now. Ever since I saw Teferi, Master of Time, I've been waiting to get to have Leyline of Anticipation so I can flash him in at the end of the opponent's turn and then activate his ability instantly!

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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Let's go all-in on Teferi.

Teferi Tribal posted:

Deck
1 Teferi, Hero of Dominaria (DAR) GR6
5 Island (IKO) 265
4 Plains (IKO) 262
1 Teferi, Timebender (DAR) 270
4 Teferi, Time Raveler (WAR) 221
1 Oath of Teferi (DAR) 200
1 Teferi, Hero of Dominaria (DAR) 207
2 Time Wipe (WAR) 223
3 Absorb (RNA) 151
1 Midnight Clock (ELD) 54
2 Teferi, Master of Time (M21) 75
2 Flux Channeler (WAR) 52
1 Teferi's Ageless Insight (M21) 76
3 Shatter the Sky (THB) 37
1 Cleansing Nova (M19) 9
4 Temple of Enlightenment (THB) 246
2 Glacial Fortress (XLN) 255
2 Hallowed Fountain (RNA) 251
1 Raugrin Triome (IKO) 251
2 Tranquil Cove (M20) 259
4 Interplanar Beacon (WAR) 247
2 Teferi's Tutelage (M21) 78
4 Leyline of Anticipation (M20) 64
1 Platinum Angel (M10) 218
3 Dovin's Veto (WAR) 193
4 Teferi's Time Twist (WAR) 72

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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Any word on a Discontinuity + Chance for Glory combo?

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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Paul Zuvella posted:

it sucks rear end

e: Discontinuity exiles itself when it resolves, so there is no combo to be had

Ahh, drat. :smith: I thought there might've been some interesting jank to be had there.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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A 1/1 UU with flash that has "When this enters the field, you may counter target spell or activated ability that targets you or a permanent you control."

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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PerniciousKnid posted:

I've been playing unranked since I reached gold and it's actually fun. Makes me wish there was an unranked historic queue, now that I bought a half price pack of Domino's.

There is! Just click play and select your Historic deck. It'll have the ! but ignore it and it'll let you play anyway.

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DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

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PerniciousKnid posted:

Thanks, I guess I'm dumb I didn't even think to try that. Does it work with any other deck types e.g. brawl?

Nah, you can hardly be faulted. It's really unintuitive. If they intended for people to be able to play unranked historic, why would they put a huge fat exclamation mark indicating it's not allowed??

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