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Doltos posted:Meh, almost as good as food golem run both, obvs lol if this expansion just makes rdw dominant despite rotation
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Lone Goat posted:that adventure knight that kills a planeswalker or creature for bb1 and 2 life and then is a 2/3 with lifelink, in case that 2 life was a problem
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Sep 15, 2019 07:40
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Sinteres posted:They changed the catch up event: allah akbar
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Sep 18, 2019 00:19
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Spiderdrake posted:I don't know, at least half of them look fun to try out. Other than cauldron and mirror, the artifact cycle does look a little winmore. Mirror just looks like hot poo poo. I still regularly see evolving wilds played so welp.
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Sep 19, 2019 00:09
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Adder Moray posted:So I've been playing this for Standard 2020 in addition to a Rakdos Aristocrats deck. It's been a good time, though if you want your games to be super snappy and quick it's not for you. Your opponents won't scoop once you stabilize and turn the game around because they won't realize what's happening at first. And it doesn't kill quickly. Pretty sure I ran into someone with this game plan unfortunately for them I got the dread presence engine rolling
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Sep 19, 2019 22:51
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Bust Rodd posted:I can't believe how quiet this thread is with the full spoilers up, any thoughts? Sultai Yarok and at least one RDW deck will still exist and that's as much as I confidently know about archetypes. edit also yeah baby teferi gets even better with adventures  double edit I am totally going to try to incorporate Oko into any feasible decks, he seems like a Good Threemana Planeswalker and that's always scary Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Sep 21, 2019 |
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Sep 21, 2019 01:51
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Insurrectionist posted:Calling it now, Merfolk Secretkeeper is going to be The Worst to face in drafts. Common, probably not high on bot lists, cheap as poo poo and if you can mass it it's both a good wincon and blockers out the rear end. also synergizes with seven card in graveyard synergies and bounce stuff and adventure synergies I guess bounces are inherently adventure synergy it's not the scariest thing in the format, but it's irritating and it'll happen sometimes
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Sep 22, 2019 09:06
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welp guess i have to figure out a deck that runs this
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Sep 24, 2019 20:34
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Dracula Factory posted:Simic Flash looks even stronger now with wildborn preserver, I'm very pumped because I like causing others misery. a worthy successor to the fallen Bicyclops
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Sep 24, 2019 23:14
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Bedurndurn posted:I didn't get mine until an hour or two after people started talking about it, so I guess it's staggered. oh poo poo, now i actually care
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Sep 26, 2019 07:10
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ex post facho posted:this deck is absurd so many wildcards 
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Sep 26, 2019 19:06
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okay yeah i'll consider building towards that rakdos nonsense, it's great in the Any Deck event
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Sep 26, 2019 20:28
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:So far it looks like this format is going to reward me for playing swamps so I'm very happy with it you better be running 4x dread presence
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Sep 26, 2019 22:04
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yeah i already really hate mono-green with yorvo
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Sep 27, 2019 08:15
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Still adjusting my RDW, but in addition to fervent knight and robber, I've been pretty pleased with rimrock knight (whose adventure AND creature both work quite well with fervent) and my currently-one-of the adventure giant. tempted to finish the playset of the adventure giant, it's also in that nonsense rakdos aggro deck with way too many rares
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Sep 27, 2019 20:18
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Current RDW build: 16 Mountain (XLN) 273 4 Robber of the Rich (ELD) 138 3 Rimrock Knight (ELD) 137 2 Runaway Steam-Kin (GRN) 115 2 Dwarven Mine (ELD) 243 4 Fervent Champion (ELD) 124 4 Risk Factor (GRN) 113 4 Shock (M19) 156 1 Experimental Frenzy (GRN) 99 4 Light Up the Stage (RNA) 107 3 Skewer the Critics (RNA) 115 2 Chandra, Fire Artisan (WAR) 119 2 Castle Embereth (ELD) 239 4 Bonecrusher Giant (ELD) 115 2 Chandra, Acolyte of Flame (M20) 126 3 Slaying Fire (ELD) 143 Bit wobbly on the skewers, if I'm really desperate to remove something on the board it's probably because it can block my dudes and otherwise slaying fire does 1 more face damage (edit: and is instant for fervent knight etc shenanigans). I could also see an argument for dumping some or all of the risk factors, since there's more mana-sinkiness and card-draw or psuedo-card-draw built in than in Old RDW. In general though, it feels pretty good to run, is slightly more complex than Old RDW thanks to the robbers and adventures, and seems to perform pretty well so far. i could also probably knock off another mountain, I'm still evaluating how it feels Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Sep 27, 2019 |
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Sep 27, 2019 21:52
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AngryBooch posted:I feel like crafting 4 Bonecrusher Giants is one of the safest bets you can make. It's the next Chainwhirler except it's splashable so it's going to be in every single Aggro and Midrange Deck featuring Red for the next two years. Hell, it's probably going to show up in Jeskai Walkers soon. I'm gonna try that out. Yeah, I bit the bullet and crafted 2 more over my pulled 1 and crafted 1 and so far it's pretty rare for me to go "man, I wish this 4/3 with upside with a shock stapled to it was a random other spell from my deck".
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Sep 27, 2019 21:58
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A Moose posted:Ok, now that we've established that, what shits all over simic? I saw a spicy Fires of Invention Jeskai Walkers deck that looks like it can overwhelm most decks with sheer value if it gets an early Fires. Then there's the Field of the Dead decks which didn't really get any worse. I've blown up oko a couple times with my red aggro deck (or event expensive rakdos) and a Bolt The Bird policy - food tokens, in themselves, are annoying, but the oko decks I've seen so far can't really handle fast nasty aggro that well. If you can kill the first elk they have a problem.
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Sep 27, 2019 23:13
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zoux posted:What do you guys think of Adventure cards so far Very strong. I'm running that dumb 3/1 cantblock dwarf knight in my red aggro right now (and the giant but everyone knows it's good). Also make for more interesting playing decision - much like playing a 4 mana krasis, you shouldn't be scared to just slam the creature without playing the adventure first.
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Sep 27, 2019 23:15
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ptroll posted:I just finished an hour long simic food mirror where one of the tipping points was me stealing my opponent's goose with oko so I could slowly get ahead on food per turn for endlessly recurring my two feasting troll kings faster than they other guy could recur their two feasting troll kings. I take it back, I no longer support the concept of a simic food deck. ...but I'm going to build one eventually
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Sep 28, 2019 00:02
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seizure later posted:sorry to inform everyone but Simic Flash is for boring virginal smoothbrains and rakdos aggro is back baby awooo the rakdos aggro deck posted a couple pages ago is completely goddamn nuts and almost certainly vastly better than my rdw build
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Sep 28, 2019 00:03
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AnEdgelord posted:Yeah with these super clogged up boards I dont think the small ball cavalcade decks are gonna cut it. The rakdos decks meanwhile have got some serious beef in the deck and some of the beef even has some efficient removal spells attached to them. In RDW v Cavalcade I frequently have my Fervent knights just hang around untapped to keep them from hitting MY face until I could Stomp their dudes and play a giant / unload risk factors / bring Ch4ndra online
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Sep 28, 2019 01:01
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A Moose posted:Simic food sounds like fun, oko definitely rules. Esper Doom sounds like sadistic fun too, but I have 0 of the required rares. I'm trying to remember, what were some of the good week 1 decks for WAR and M20, and did any of them stick around? How bad of an idea is it to craft non-busted stuff right now if you're on a budget? Only craft safe things. The good RDW bits, most or all of the Rakdos aggro bits, and at least some of the Simic food bits are safe though. Gilded Goose and Oko ain't going anywhere, Fervent / Robber / Bonecrusher are going into an awful lot of fast decks, Murderous Rider is the premier black removal rear end in a top hat,
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Sep 28, 2019 01:04
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Fervent's probably the riskiest of those but it's a 1/1 first strike haste for 1 with knight and equipment synergy (and so self synergy) so it's hard to imagine it becoming unrunnable even if they reprint chainwhirler or something.
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Sep 28, 2019 01:07
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Magic Underwear posted:Alright I tested it myself. Looks like the +3/+3 is not an ability, so doesn't get wiped. that actually makes some sort of sense, interesting thank you for your contribution to science
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Sep 28, 2019 02:08
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my elemental cat's been asleep since the patch, but so have most? all? of the foxen i've seen
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Sep 28, 2019 05:25
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Someone mentioned it earlier but they made it so if you have emotes muted your pet goes to sleep well okay guess that's an acceptable sacrifice
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The Sean posted:Nice. The weekly wins just reset on Thursday but the client says they're resetting again tomorrow like usual. that's what I figure, fortunately I already cleared it because I'm enjoying the first few days of Eldraine before oko and other degenerate nonsense that is not the degenerate nonsense I'm playing ruins the format forever The Sean posted:Probably a bunch of whales but also consider how much gold people saved up and also consider the collation error they had this week with packs. I got so many repeat rares for a black/red knights deck that it was a no-brainer. yeah i got like 55 packs for gold plus the random extras plus a sealed run, and immediately burned all my wildcards on RDW / rakdos aggro i am now out of rare wildcards but have a bunch of good rares that I think were all pretty safe spends
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Sep 28, 2019 17:39
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Yeah this is the deck that I just played and barely won against, I really underestimated Ayara and that sac ability. Cats with only one 1x food engine in the whole deck though?
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Sep 29, 2019 00:07
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xK1 posted:I'm running a Rakdos version of the Cat-Oven combo, Mayhem Devil makes saccing the cat (and its food) extra fun! catdos rakdos aristocats
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Sep 29, 2019 03:36
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xK1 posted:Dang that is a better name brb editing deck I actually didn't notice that you named it catdos kater posted:Yeah vraska having exile was far more annoying than murderboy. He’s more like a more expensive but also faster at the same time chupacabra. yeah, especially in an expansion that has a good bit of raise dead Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Sep 29, 2019 |
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Sep 29, 2019 04:32
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Wacky Delly posted:This is the first new set I've been around for, but the fluff is pretty fun so far. the fluff is better than I've ever experienced and I'm a HUGE mirage fan
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Squinky v2.0 posted:oko is my least favorite card in the set by a mile so far i have yet to lose a game to oko, but that's basically just luck on my part did win one by robber-of-the-riching him off an opposing deck, though turn two, robber, attack, exile oko; the opponent mouses over the robber, mouses over his exileyard, and presumably gives a long sigh, before deciding to play it out Bedurndurn posted:That feed cats into the oven deck is so loving fun. Abusing blockers getting sacked to avoid lifelinkers gaining anything is the most wonderful galaxy brain poo poo. Oven Cat is my next deck after finishing rakdos aggro, I think. Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Sep 30, 2019 |
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Sep 30, 2019 06:12
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Doltos posted:Dreadhorde plus Oko turns the tokens into 4/4s and allows another zombie army to be made in addition to the normal sacrifice options baking bolas' zombie army into pies
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Sep 30, 2019 21:58
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Boy of Joy posted:I’ve been jamming a Golos field deck in BO1 and everyone is playing simic flash and owning me. Not convinced it’s gonna be the best deck in the free event. Yeah I'm completely undecided on what to run - my Rakdos aggro is tons of fun and I'm getting better at piloting it but what if the meta is anti-aggro and I lose 
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Oct 5, 2019 23:03
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I don't know the actual numbers but Gruul aggro can finish off Field often enough it doesn't make me want to throw my mouse out the window.
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Oct 8, 2019 01:35
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Kawabata posted:Can't believe no one is complaining about Knight of the Ebon Legion, card's broken as absolute gently caress. it's extremely good, but it's not game-breaking probably the best one-drop in standard, but it's a substantial mana sink and you're not going to actually get many counters on it (my other choice for best one-drop is probably pelt collector, because it's gonna stack up a lot more counters and be a real rear end in a top hat) Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Oct 9, 2019 |
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Oct 9, 2019 06:19
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Zero VGS posted:You fuckers, you told me literally 2 days ago to go ahead and blow all my wildcards on a Golos deck. "Don't worry, if they ban it you'll get the wild cards back"... yeah for one set... not the other 20 rares! I'm ruined! i'd feel bad for you but you willingly chose to play golos fields so you deserve everything you get and more
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drainpipe posted:Yeah, they’re the only must listen mtg content for me. Glad they’ve been upping their content rate with the YouTube channel. (God I hate the term content) fadam posted:ADL is really good. Gottlieb seems like a nice, genuinely smart guy, but his tone and cadence and overly-sesquipedalian (I had to look this word up, I’m punk rock) way of speaking reminds me of all the law-students I met in uni and kind of drives me nuts. GerryT is the goat. I'm a fairly big fan of Limited Resources too.
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axeil posted:The biggest mistake of Eldraine seems to be that there aren't any really good viable Aggro decks. Knights are cool but aren't fast enough to outspeed Golos and everything else is pretty crappy value. I guess there's a RDW but it's not very good compared to what it was prior to rotation. Gruul aggro-ish is fast enough to have a decent matchup with field and oko. Norns talked me around on running embercleave as a backbreaker. the way riot works means that if you happen to run into cavalcade you can slow down instead and just squash them Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Oct 14, 2019 |
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