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Mad Hamish posted:I cannot for the life of me recall them being mentioned save for the prologue in one of the books. It's the prologue of the titular book, even! Definitely the worst title of the series.
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2019 17:51 |
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Atlas Hugged posted:Does Nynaeve's ability to sense people close by who she has healed ever get referenced outside of book 1? It's a minor plot point but I can't remember it ever coming up again. I’m pretty sure it doesn’t.
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2019 12:52 |
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cryptoclastic posted:I’ve been listening to the podcast that was posted earlier in the thread (thanks!) and they talk about this. I’m sort of amazed that Jordan had all of this stuff mapped out so early. Yes, very weird that in a book based on the cyclical nature of history as a cosmic fact and with characters obviously named after Arthurian heroes and Norse gods that one of them was already patterned after Odin.
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2019 00:42 |
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The Lord Bude posted:Whitecloaks are worse. The Seanchan are an awful, twisted culture, albeit not without similarities to real world historical societies, but the Whitecloaks hit closer to home - They are essentially a stand in for the Christian fundamentalists that are a very real, very ugly threat that we can see existing around us in the world today. They represent hatred, intolerance and bigotry in a way that none of the other antagonists do; and that has a stronger impact than traditional 'fantasy villain' archetypes. What weird land do you live in where Christian fundamentalists are a real threat? I confess I don't understand the point of reading fantasy when you're living one.
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2019 17:54 |
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Trasson posted:Well, there's that obscure hellhole known as the USA... What threat do "Christian fundamentalists" pose there?
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2019 18:03 |
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Inspector 34 posted:BTW, I'm really glad this thread is here! I started reading WOT when I first found the previous book thread and was kind of following along with it for a while but by the time I had anything to contribute it had been closed. I'm about a quarter of the way through book 9 on my reread now. Just LOL if you aren’t a named contributor in an early version (say the first four or six books) rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan FAQ.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2019 04:02 |
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eke out posted:yeah if Shohreh Aghdashloo doesn't get one of the big older female channeler roles, they hosed up Age is wrong, but Siuane Sanche. Boats instead of profanity.
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2019 12:39 |
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Sab669 posted:I'm lukewarm on the books, but very excited for the TV series and yea, I hope it does well so that Amazon funds the poo poo out of it. Lots of stuff will translate very well to the screen. Lord of Chaos.
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2019 21:22 |
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Mat Cauthon posted:The Boys, Marvelous Ms Maisel, a couple of others. Isn't the Expanse an Amazon show now too? I’ve never heard of The Boys, I’m not sure Maisel’s quality and Emmy buzz translates to viewers, and the Expanse is such a big hit that it was cancelled and picked up as Bezos’ vanity project. None are big hits in a GoT sense, certainly.
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2019 02:03 |
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Atlas Hugged posted:Also two books per season seems totally absurd. For real, book 10 is one episode, tops. Apparatchik Magnet fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Oct 18, 2019 |
# ¿ Oct 18, 2019 02:06 |
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How mad do gender theorists get about Newtonian physics? Same energy.
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2019 19:19 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I do like how flawed all of the Forsaken are, and the only one that learns a drat thing is Demandred. Instead of just being mad at Lews Therin he goes and gets the biggest army and learns to be the best fighter. The rest, to one degree or another, die because they are at each other's throats. Well, not Ishamael. He knew all the infighting was pointless no matter how it turned out, boy just wanted some honest, principled cosmic nihilism.
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2019 01:43 |
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RC Cola posted:I read it as LTT giving them honors, but more of a "here is the second place Nobel Peace Prize. I would give you the first but I already won it. But you still did pretty good champ." They wouldn’t get the Peace Prize until after they’d gone over to the Shadow and conducted some atrocities, though.
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2019 13:04 |
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Data Graham posted:loving lost it at those faces The only thing that saves this from trash somehow elevates it to perfection.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2019 13:05 |
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buffalo all day posted:Enough people were hung up on the scarves thing that it got its own entry in the WOTFAQ! I see that my name has survived in the contributors section.
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2019 01:45 |
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Huh I could've sworn there was a h5 thing, but hi fellow contributor! Please tell me you're Timothy Bruening and it was all one huge troll.
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2019 22:41 |
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It's hilarious to compare ASoFaI fandom's problems, perpetual yearly hope for a book that will never come out, to old Jordan fandom problems, several books in a row released yearly or nearly so like clockwork but with nothing happening and crap like the Faile kidnapping lingering forever.
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2019 16:35 |
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The very strong case for Elayne's place in the cellar is that of the terrible characters she has a lot of pages but very few redeeming scenes. The other baddies at least have a bright spot or two or don't inflict pain for as long.
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2019 22:10 |
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https://twitter.com/WoTonPrime/status/1192124485022863361 Well, GoT didn't get him type cast as a bad guy, at least.
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2019 18:15 |
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Fan fiction is extremely cringe.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2019 14:55 |
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:It is not a thing I am interested in but fan fiction is a way for people to be creative using characters and ideas they're familiar with. Lots of successful people got their start exploring their creativity by imitation and using elements of things they love. Yes, and it's extremely cringe. Like anime and Christian rock.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2019 16:53 |
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Data Graham posted:That kinda goes to what gets my hackles up about Rand, where even if we accept that he's an insane megalomaniac with schizophrenic delusions and all that, he's still presented for the bulk of the series as this superman who picks up ninja swordfighting skills in like two months and can do everything from naval tactics to grain distribution to remaking the social order of multiple kingdoms that put him on the throne (never mind being the Best Channeler Ever) because he's just so awesome. Like a kid's idea of a superhero who has ALL the powers, bigger and better than the powers his little brother is pretending to have. He goes straight from 18-year-old sheepherder who doesn't even wonder about the outside world to World Bestriding Gold Plated Hero in what I can only read as some kind of wish fulfillment for a certain kind of reader for whom the "everyman who saves the world" trope isn't fundamentally about the everyman succeeding despite being unsuited to the task, but rather that it proves that any everyman can be a galactic emperor if he just bootstraps his poo poo up and climbs the drat obstacle course wall. Weird that fate didn't choose someone other than a freak genetic superman to play the most important role in recurring world history and his birth parents weren't some randos. Probably didn't hurt that he may have subconsciously (and later consciously) benefited from the knowledge of a hundreds of years old world class expert on the same.
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2019 19:03 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I always just thought it was a slightly modified form of Ygraine / Igraine. The full name is the relevant reference, Egwene Al'Vere is definitely Guinevere. The first name might have some some additional tweaking to make it match something else, but that's secondary. Or he literally just added an E, a space, and an apostrophe.
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2019 15:37 |
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I always remember the two Aes Sedai pulling on Mat's arms in the Tarasin Palace and him interrupting with a "ladies, there's no need to fight, there's plenty of me to go around." I definitely found that chuckle worthy at the time, especially since one of them was that Illianer red ajah one.
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2019 21:39 |
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silvergoose posted:As I mentioned, that's gotta be the longest, stupidest mystery I've ever seen in a book. It was treated as a masturbation joke on rev.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan for years and years after the first reference (one guy got it as his parenthetical nom de guerre in the FAQ), and group members brought it up regularly with Harriet and RJ in correspondence, signings, and similar encounters.
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2019 03:08 |
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cultureulterior posted:Rasfwrj! I hung out there! I posted way too much there in college.
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2019 22:08 |
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ulmont posted:I even went to a meetup. I regret most things about that. I went to several. I picked up a girlfriend for a while, but the group was mostly cringe.
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2019 01:48 |
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Data Graham posted:Yeah but that's not how the "wyn" in Gawyn would be pronounced No, you're right. There's no way to get a Dwayne rhyme out of this.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2019 18:02 |
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How are u posted:The Witcher was just Xena with a big budget and a production team that clearly really cared about nailing the tone and while it wasn't revolutionary it was really fun and good. Give me two episodes wholly devoted to Elaida’s figurines and the history of the Amyrlin triptych or give this show an early death.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2020 21:54 |
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silvergoose posted:Shadar Logoth is such a great part of the first book, so many creepy setpieces and stuff. Where else can you meet a guy named Deathdeath.
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2020 15:17 |
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Submarine Sandpaper posted:They can blast dark friends iirc The issue is “what’s a Darkfriend.” A white Ajah Aes Sedai subject to this oath can’t hurt random Whitecloaks, the average Whitecloak bound by this oath could slash up every Aes Sedai he meets with no problem, just like your average SA poster subject to a “only kill Nazis” oath would be able to chop up any Republican and be confused why others with functioning brains subject to the same oath can’t.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2021 21:58 |
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Inspector 34 posted:Good of the oaths to recognize the desperate situation the world was in. Lord, bind me to this oath, but not if inconvenient.
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